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2. March 2004 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After using SuperDVD Ripper, CloneDVD (running with Slysoft AnyDVD driver)....I still cannot get any DVD to copy to a DVD-R, and get it to play in my Panasonic DVD player. The player claims to support DVD-R, but I cannot get it to read them.

I know trying to burn DVD-9 disks to a single DVD-R has it's separate process, but even single layer DVD's aren't being done right. I can't even put the burned DVD-R's back in the comp DVD player...it either locks up Explorer, or I get a message saying there's no disk in the drive.

What am I missing here?
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2. March 2004 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok firstly I would ry a different approach ......try DVD Shrink to back the disc up its free 4 download ......back it up to a folder thats easy to find then burn it with Nero thats the simplest way to back up a dvd .....

I use DVD Decrypter ......to rip the dvd to My HD then DVD2One to crunch it to fit upon a 4.36 gig disc then burn it with Nero .......also stat using dvd _rw media till you get the hang of it keeps the costs down n thats what its all about ....lets us know how you get on

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2. March 2004 @ 09:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am giving it a go now.....thought DVD Shrink runs into the encryption, and refuses to work.

Since most DVD's are DVD-9's, I am wondering if it's possible to just rip one of the movies out of it? Being that there's a choice, Full Screen, or Wide Screen. Each selection is below the 4.7Gb limit...
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2. March 2004 @ 09:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah after you have DVD Decrypter ed the dvd you crunch the dvd with DVD2One so that a DVD-9 will fit onto a blank dvd +/-r media let us know how you get on so We can help

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2. March 2004 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On the average, how long does it take to for DVDEncryptor to rip a 4.7Gb from a DVD? This thing has been goin' on forever!

My system is an AMD 3000+ with 1.5Gb PC3200 XMS.
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2. March 2004 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry, DVD Decryptor.

I have selected to rip out the Wide Screen version, though after reading the guides thru here, I am not sure the prog will work, since it was posted that the total DVD size cannot exceed 4.7. Does this mean that Decryptor just cannot be used to pull the VOB files from the DVD if it's a DVD-9?
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2. March 2004 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Decrypter simply removes the encryption which means it will decrypt ant size movie. The size limitation is referring to using Decrypter's internal burner engine which is limited to 4.4GB since Decrypter can't compress the movie.



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2. March 2004 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You said dvdshrink runs in they encryption and stops do you mean the copyrite? Ether way shrink sould work. Try useing anydvd and DVD Shrink together see if that works. On a side note when I was buying a burner I was reading reviews and some dvd players didnt read all the disks that where put out by the burners. One of the reviews they took 9 dvd players and tried the burnt dvd on each of the 9 players. Even pioner and plextor burners put out disks that some dvd players wouldnt read. Just some food for thought. You may wanna try a dvd you burnt on a friends dvd palyer see if it works.
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2. March 2004 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You guys are doing it the hard way. First, if shrink won't decrypt the movie, try opening your dvd player software and play the movie for a few seconds. Then stop the player and open Shrink. It should then decrypt the movie. Once you open shrink, you can pick which version of the movie you want using re-author. You only need decrypter if shrink then refuses to work. The only movies shrink gave me problems with are Disney movies. Also trying to use decrypter and shrink sometimes causes problems together. Anydvd will also help Shrink decrypt as stated, but only do it if you have trouble with shrink. CloneDVD and Anydvd work great together, Never had a movie they couldn't decrypt. They are my first choice on backups.

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2. March 2004 @ 11:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with you, CloneDVD and AnyDVD worked like a charm!, however, CloneDVD burned a DVD-9 to a DVD-R disk....and without proper compression, it's like stuffing 10lbs of flour in a 5lb bag....the DVD players can no longer read the DVD-R. My Panasonic home DVD player claimed it cannot read that type of disk, even though it reads DVD-Rs....after the burning process is done with CloneDVD, even my computer can no longer read the burned disk.

I am working on several different ways of accomplishing this simple for you, hard for me..task!



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2. March 2004 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, last question.....I was finally able to rip the movie from the DVD. It created .VOB files which play in PowerDVD just fine.

Now, using Nero 6.3, (DVD-Video option) do I place these files in the VIDEO_TS folder?

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2. March 2004 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Clonedvd is suppose to compress just like Shrink. You can also edit out extras to get the compression up better on the main movie. There shouldn't be a problem with doing a dvd9 to a dvd5 blank with Clonedvd. I do it all the time. Are you running the Clonedvd by Elby with the animated sheep? There is another Clonedvd KNOCK OFF.
Jerry

Answer to your last question is yes. Put all the files inside the VIDEO_TS folder. If you are using Shrink 3.16, you can make shrink auto burn with Nero by going to the preference settings in Shrink.

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2. March 2004 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, I am using CloneDVD with the sheep.

Also, I tried to answer my previous question regarding Nero, and it said the files were out of compliance, and may not work???
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2. March 2004 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you use Nero manually, when you add the shrink files to the VIDEO_TS folder, if you get them in there right, you should see a little musical note along side the shrink files. I don't know what the note means, but it tells you the files are in the right place. Using auto burn in shrink takes the guess work out of that part since the files are added automatically.
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2. March 2004 @ 16:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I have given up on making a DVD backup that will work in my home DVD. Seems no matter what program I use, or what speed I burn it in, the farthest I have gotten was the intro screen before the player freezes. I got one copy that plays really well in the computer DVD player, but that's it. Seems that the home DVD player isn't compatible with the way CloneDVD, or Nero burns DVDs.
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2. March 2004 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Morph416,

1. What brand media are you using ?

2. Do you have Easy CD Creater on your PC ?

Pete




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Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
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2. March 2004 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Burner - LiteOn LDW-411S

Yes, I have both Nero 6.3.0.3, and Roxio 6 (with latest updates, drive updates).

I have yet to try Roxio.
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2. March 2004 @ 19:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Roxio left me with a warning window, that the vid file contained AC3 audio, that is not supported in DVD Builder.
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2. March 2004 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rarely do Nero and Roxio play well together. I would do a complete uninstall of both and then reinstall Nero. You said you have AnyDVD and Nero 6... that's all you need. Forget Shrink and all the others and learn to use Nero Recode.

http://www.nero.com/en/632101090030238.html

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2. March 2004 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


Morph416,

As you have been told, Roxio doesn't play well with others - to put it another way, UNINSTALL ROXIO IF YOU WANT TO BACKUP DVD's. :0

Next, about your media - From your posts, I think it?s a major factor :-)

You have absolutely no idea how big a deal media is - :-(

Cheap media is excellent for Text, Data, Spread Sheets, Pictures (.jpg's and .Gif's) and it's pretty good for music BUT, if you want to make backups of DVD's Cheap media "Freezes", "stutters", "pixilates" and down right, doesn't play at all !

In order to work in your PC and in standalones you need "The Good Stuff" ! Use Ritek G04 or Verbatim. Trust me, Cheap media isn't cheap if it doesn't work :D)

Y'all get back to us when you make the change - We get those 2 things straightened out we?ll be half way home (Yiippppiieeeeeeeee)

(Kool Club you just joined, Huh ? Oooohhh, you didn?t know you joined did you ? Well, you did (lol)

Pete





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http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
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3. March 2004 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forgive me, last night I was tired of the long battle.....and forgot to mention I am using Memorex DVD-R (4x).

I will look into getting Verbatim.

Is it just the burning software of Roxio that needs to go? I like using Roxio's label creator...

and besides,....after seeing some burning issues Nero has had in the past (particularly, not recognizing a blank disk when there's one in the drive), Roxio has managed to burn where Nero feared to tread. Nero is my main burning program.....Roxio is just there to back up when I have issues with Nero.

For some reason now, Nero will reject a blank CD, or DVD (every now and then)....then it kicks the burner out of the Recorders section, and I have to restart the computer. Once it thinks the CD/DVD is not blank, it will not allow me to use another until the system is restarted. Not good in my opinion.
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3. March 2004 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Morph416 i use DVD Shrink along with Nero and i got a perfect copy of lord of the rings 2. and it fit onto one disc and play's in my home dvd player+comp with no prob.
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3. March 2004 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try on a different dvd player and see if that works.

"Burn, baby, BURN!"
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3. March 2004 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Morph416,

Memorex has had some problems so I still have to go with Verbatim :-)

I like Roxio for doing music CD's but it does kill Nero -

Uncheck Roxio in msconfig, that will be good -

Also - when burning, reboot your PC so that it is "fresh," then burn -

When trying to play your DVD, same thing - reboot first

Resources, resources, resources - you have to have all that you can get :D)

Pete

Always make sure your firmware is up-to-date :P)





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Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
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3. March 2004 @ 09:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As I am eliminating one problem after another, I just uninstalled Roxio, and used Nero Recode. Recode was a step backwards as far as the process goes. The burned DVD doesn't play in the home DVD, and locks up the computer's DVD drive.

Funny thing is, is that Super DVD Ripper can rip the DVD to a VCD with no problem. I can then play the VCD in the home DVD.

I have read in here that Disney movies seemed to cause the biggest headaches, and that's what I am trying to do. Burn a backup of IceAge...since my daughter got a hold of it, and chewed on the edges of the disk. The rip is ok, the .VOB files are in good shape........just can't seem to get anywhere with the current equipment.

So, when I get Verbatim DVD-R's, I will post back as to any success I have had...

Thanks to all for your time in helping me get this far.

The Panasonic documents say that the player may not play DVD-R's depending on the burn process.....well, there's only two major burning software titles....Nero, and Roxio....and since none have had success, I think you guys are right.....Memorex just plain sucks when it comes to making DVD-Rs.
 
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