Originally posted by Pop_Smith:

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I agree, I think the biggest thing was that the iPod, which actually launched after the Zune, got more press coverage by Apple than the Zune.

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Originally posted by SSSJDanny:

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I love my Zune, I think they are way better than any Ipods, but the only thing they have to do is to get more ads so people will notice them.

I am probably gonna get a new one, next month, cause my 1st Gen is still in good condition.

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Originally posted by djgizmo:

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HUH? Since when did the Zune launch before the ipod? Proof or ban.

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Originally posted by tgok:

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I don't see a compelling reason to buy a Zune over an Ipod. They are also roughly the same price. The average consumer would probably go with brand recognition, which is all Ipod. Microsoft should probably come up with something a bit more imaginative than wireless novelties to cure my apathy towards this device.

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Originally posted by MrXenu:

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There market is limited to the USA.

I live in the UK, i'd love if they sold them here, I would definatly buy one, but they don't, I don't understand why they don't sell them else where in the world

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Originally posted by SkateNYC:

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@ nintenut: Did you know that your precious Zune can only download music from Microsoft with DRM restricitions, while this is no longer the case with the iPod.

Btw...if you didn't already know this, Microsoft is in the process of phasing out your crown jewel. Good luck with using your obsolete MP3 player with your big your big screen.

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Originally posted by SkateNYC:

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That's because Microsoft no longer devotes any advertising or marketing dollars to the Zune, and they haven't done so for a very long time. Why do you think that is? Do you think the Zune is not going to be one among of their bigger cuts? If the Zune were as magnificent as you say, why is it doing so poorly, being that it's the spawn of a multi-billion-dollar corporation with virtually unlimited resources?

What Microsoft needs to do is pronounce the Zune dead long after it was removed from life support. And this, despite their numerous Zune apologists. Microsoft also needs to get rid of cry-baby customers who claim that their products are wonderful despite the fact that reality reliable proves them to be wrong: "I love Vista! It's the best OS I've ever used on any planet!" Even the High Pries of your own church, Steve Ballmer, pronounced it a failure. Yet you, and people like you, continue to genuflect at the altar of Vista. Make puke one more time.

You don't deserve sympathy. You don't deserve attention. And you've most certainly forfeited credibility.

Zuneophiles need to give it up -- and there are so many of them on the blogosphere, many more than people who actually own the ill-conceived device. How does that happen? More people write glowing love letters about their Zunes than people who actually own them.

It's difficult to let go of someone important in our lives once they?ve died. But the fact is, the sooner you begin the grieving process, the better off you?ll be in the long run.

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Originally posted by SkateNYC:

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Here's the thing...Better to pull out sooner, than lose a whole lot more later. And I'm not just talking about revenues; I'm talking about reputation.

Compared to the iPhone and the iPod touch, the Zune sucks, and everyone knows it. I don't care how many testimonials I read from so-called Zune owners. The fact that the Zune owns aroud 3% of the market versus 70% market share for the iPod should be enough suggestive evidence to quiet the squawkers. But it isn't. So be it.

The Zune is so late to the game that Microsoft's own music download store is hobbled by DRM restrictions, something Apple has recently persuaded the record companies to drop. This is the same DRM that every Kool-Aid drinking, anti-Apple freak complained about.

So, my question to all you misguided Microsoft miscreants is this: How do you justify Microsoft's DRM-straddled music store?

Please. Don't even answer. I'm so tired of Microsoft apologists, continually posting love letters about failed products. "I love Vista! It's the best OS I've ever used!" Yeah. That worked out well. Even the CEO/Chief Priest of the Church at which you worship told you it was a failure, and you continued to kneel down in submission. You people should be living in the Middle East, where unfounded beliefs are taken as fact, and misguided behavior is taken as the norm.

Don't go away mad; don't even go away stupid. Just go away

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Originally posted by SkateNYC:

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@ nintenut: Did you know that your precious Zune can only download music from Microsoft with DRM restricitions, while this is no longer the case with the iPod.

Btw...if you didn't already know this, Microsoft is in the process of phasing out your crown jewel. Good luck with using your obsolete MP3 player with your big your big screen.

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Originally posted by EnigmaCM:

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nintenut: Not disagreeing with you, I actually do think that the Zune is/was/can be better than an IPod. I should know, I own both a Zune 80gb and and IPod Classic 120gb. I would be the first to say neither in my opinion will ever be the hands down ultimate MP3 player but IMO, to each his own, both the Zune and IPod have their strengths and flaws. I love my Zune but I hate the fact that you need to use their horrible software which is very glitchy at best and also that there is no equalizer in the newer Zunes (this is probably one of the most stupidest thing Microsoft did when releasing the 80 gb and the later models). I mean I like to mess around with my preferred listening style and use an equalizer to my liking, I too am an audiophile. For this I give props to the IPod. At the time I bought the Zune, it was the better value since it was cheaper than say the IPod Touch and had more memory but my new Classic actually was cheaper than the 120gb Zune, at 219.00 US. Now in response to SkateNYC's comments, he does sound like a fanboy for IPod and that's fine if he/she wants to be opinionated but that's just it, that's his/her opinion and for him/her to try to influence his/her opinions on the rest of us is just a lost cause in stupidity since you and I and everyone else will always have their own opinion and I for one will not be influenced by a moronic claim that you are a Microsoft Zombie coming from someone who would pay 400 plus dollars for what is supposed to be an MP3 player, not a hapless attempt to a geeky music/video/game/photo player. If I wanted something like this I would of bought a PSP. Point being, you just can never satisfy anyone or pretend to even understand the logic over why you need to "defend" a product like a drone to a queen bee. Personally, even though I like my Zune, I actually use my IPod more since it does have the EQ which I can use. Although not the best, it is better than none. Hopefully Microsoft can better the Zune to bring their sales up, specifically add some stuff to it ie. EQ and drop some stuff out (WiFI?) and maybe even either update their Zune program or allow for it to be used on Windows Media Player to synch. Maybe then I would get a new Zune for that reason alone.

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