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Broadband tax headed to the UK?

article published on 26 January, 2009

According to a The Telegraph report, the Communication Minister in the UK, Lord Carter, is looking to add a "universal levy" to every broadband user's monthly bill that will help compensate "film and music companies for their losses from illegal downloads." Carter also says that "the entertainment industry - which has lobbied for the fee to be introduced - estimates it will lose £1 billion ... [ read the full article ]

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26. January 2009 @ 23:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so you are goign to tax and ban them?

Why not tax them and share that money with your corporate masters?
And let people download what they want...
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26. January 2009 @ 23:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It would seem that all this is going to do is inrease the sales of coffee as everybody is going to head to their local coffee shop with free wifi. Illegal downloading is still going to happen; it is just a matter of who is going to be paying the bill for the connection.
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26. January 2009 @ 23:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Unfocused:
It would seem that all this is going to do is inrease the sales of coffee as everybody is going to head to their local coffee shop with free wifi. Illegal downloading is still going to happen; it is just a matter of who is going to be paying the bill for the connection.
IMO tax all data storage devices and the internet a blanket 10%, then tell the media mafia they can only go after instances of illicit profit IE making money off the distribution of content without a license, that pretty much fixes all of our problems.
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26. January 2009 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so loose 1 billion in five years and make like 30 billion in 1 year
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26. January 2009 @ 23:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
their next agenda will a listening tax for the 80 billion they loose a year from people over hearing music played through car radios.

don't see why they should be entitled to anything from so called losses they blame on piracy.
they are just further punishing there few remaining customers.
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26. January 2009 @ 23:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So does this mean that if this tax goes through anybody can download anything they want without any consequences from the UK Government, or the RIAA/MPAA? If that is the case...that will get more people downloading illegally because they are already paying for it. Depending on how much the tax is...it probably will be worth it to d/l every movie immaginable...cheaper than going to the movies.
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26. January 2009 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by outlaw200:
So does this mean that if this tax goes through anybody can download anything they want without any consequences from the UK Government, or the RIAA/MPAA? If that is the case...that will get more people downloading illegally because they are already paying for it. Depending on how much the tax is...it probably will be worth it to d/l every movie immaginable...cheaper than going to the movies.
Nope 3 strikes is still in place(or they still want it) and down loaders hunted.

What a messed up racket they haz....
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27. January 2009 @ 00:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What about the just in case u get robbed/mugged tax. Because millions of people get robeed yearly and lose billions as well. But wait they arent worth it only a business which rob's its artists and publishers/writers should get help. I wonder if this bullshiet will slide in the states cuz i'd never purchase any media and download everything illegally if that tax were to happen here.
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27. January 2009 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the three strikes are still in place...then the broadband user is paying a tax for nothing, and the RIAA/MPAA are getting free money from the UK Goverment. Incredible!!!
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27. January 2009 @ 03:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Never happen. If it did though, I'd download as much as I could, then I'd connect to RIAA/MPAA trawling servers and send them it back. Probably write them a letter to brag also.

This could never pass, although it would appear from recent events that the more ridiculous something is the more likely it is to happen (regarding said organisation).
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27. January 2009 @ 05:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If that were to happen, then, my innate honesty would take a dive. As I would then have to recover any monies they took, from pirating film and dvds and software, stuff that my conscience has so far prevented me from doing. What is this? this chap is a lord, so he can pull any crud he likes. And, also probably like those sellers of favours in parliament, the chances are he is in to the music industry to his nostrils.
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27. January 2009 @ 05:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So thats £1,000,000,000 devide by 5 = £200,000,000 Per year

60,975,000 people in the uk, devide the figure above by the total number of people gives = £3.2800328003280032800328003280033

Im happy with £3 a year, but...

.... I can bet you it works out to be more like £3 a month minimum, which would total £36 a year.

£36 x by total number of people = £2,195,100,000 x 5 = £10,975,500,000

For Flips Sake, if your going to start taxing broadband access the only darn diddly arn thing I can do diddly do without being tax for is FREKING BREATH !!!
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27. January 2009 @ 06:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Anyone would think that the members of the house of lords were susceptible to the od back hander hear and there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7852631.stm

lol
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27. January 2009 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by plazma247:
Anyone would think that the members of the house of lords were susceptible to the old back hander hear and there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7852631.stm

lol
Thats exactly what i was going to say! lol

I think someone recieved a truck load of money for this load of tripe
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27. January 2009 @ 06:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think that we should be putting a tax on politicians stupidity.
far more money in that.


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27. January 2009 @ 06:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lord Carter can shove it up his arse.More news papers with brown envolopes inside hey?.Do i get a rebate on national insurance as i am paying for the health care for immigrants??.How do these idiots get these jobs?.
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27. January 2009 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know what - bugger em... I've past caring anymore... I will just make sure I send a message to all the artists I have bought CD's/mp3's/gig tickets for with the amount I've spend on each one, and let them know the reason why I've decided to pirate exclusively now... hopefully if enough people do it, we can expect the music industry to start acting less like the mafia, and more like the music biz.... sigh... hopefully kicking Labour out of gov in the next election will send a clear message we are sick of having our rights stripped away, while being raped of more and more money via hidden taxes.
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27. January 2009 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13023.cfm

hhaa, thats if brown ever allows us to vote again, its not as if he was keen on it last time someone mentioned an election lol, mind its not the house of commons thats in debate here, its the house of lords.

But it doesnt matter what we all say and complain they will just shaft us anyway.

What the problem needs is for us all to do the same thing at the same time, instead of letting them sit back and laugh as a few of us try and rock the boat with little or no effect, united we stand.... alas they work very strongly on the fact its more likely its we are devided and we fall.
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27. January 2009 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Doesn't matter, the world is supposed to come to an end in 2012.
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27. January 2009 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
haha, thats on interpiration, another its a time of choice.

So we should just all give up and wait for the end....? Maybe instead of worring about 2012 and waiting for planet x,y and z we could all just do something about the now...
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27. January 2009 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wdtv is correct,well if we are governed by a "new world order".
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27. January 2009 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just another excuse to make more money by taxing us.
whats next fresh air tax/washing line tax for people who dry their washing without using some sort of energy...lol...
getting a bit fed up with the overtaxed uk (blame it on the recesion)


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27. January 2009 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, let me get this straight. They are going to tax you a set price. Give that money to the MPAA for "profits lost" and the MPAA is going to do what with it?
Give it to the artists?
How do you divvy it up? Every artist gets an equal amount? So, I could become an "artist" by signing with a lable... produce one piece of crap song that no one buys and get "my fair share" of the tax???
You know, there is a similar tax on VHS tapes in the form of "required Macrovision". This drove up the price of the video and of the players and ultimately solved NOTHING!
Isn't socialism grand?
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27. January 2009 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ThePastor:
So, let me get this straight. They are going to tax you a set price. Give that money to the MPAA for "profits lost" and the MPAA is going to do what with it?
Give it to the artists?
How do you divvy it up? Every artist gets an equal amount? So, I could become an "artist" by signing with a lable... produce one piece of crap song that no one buys and get "my fair share" of the tax???
You know, there is a similar tax on VHS tapes in the form of "required Macrovision". This drove up the price of the video and of the players and ultimately solved NOTHING!
Isn't socialism grand?
No no the media mafia keeps it for themselves since they are the farmers and producers of media..the artists are merely cows that if lucky get some money from them.
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27. January 2009 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do not suppose anyone could tell me exactly when, in 2012, this thing is supposed to happen!! I am a busy person, and it would greatly help my calculations and appointments, if there was a day that I could work to.
 
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