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1. February 2009 @ 23:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone seen the PlayStation 9 commercial before? It was advertised a long time ago by SONY talking about features of the PS9.

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You can see the commercial at the page above. Do you think it is realistic?

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1. February 2009 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I remember that... But seeing as how the world's gonna end in 2012, I don't think we'll get the chance to ever see it. :) Whoo, conspiracy theories!

As far as realism, I don't think there's going to be anything nearly as psychotic as that, because then you'd be in danger of actually hurting yourself. ...or at least that's what I'm thinking. Spores in your brain? Jumping down fifty-story buildings? Sounds like the same thing mushrooms can do for you. :P
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2. February 2009 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yah and Sept. 11 was done by the goverment and JFK was killed by one bullet
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Actually, JFK WAS killed by one bullet. Some folks recreated that scene and they actually got an almost identical result as from the actual assassination. Saw it on Discovery or History or something once.

Anyway.
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2. February 2009 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One bullet ? From the Grassy Knol
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2. February 2009 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah. Something about the bullet traveled through air, traveled through VP's body, which altered the trajectory, then through VP's arm, which again altered trajectory, and finally through P's body.

...or however it went down. All this science and bony material covered by ballistics gel models and period rifle and bullet type and shooting spot and everything.

But anyway, yeah. Playstation 9.
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2. February 2009 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I spent a full 30 seconds wishing I could rate comments lol

For Conspiracy theories... The universe doesn't fit in a nice neat little box quite yet. Whenever we try to stick it in one, it slips out.

As for PS9, interesting site. Someone must have been very bored. The technological aspect, spore nanites(?), could exist by 2079. But I'd like to think that if we perfected nanobot technology, they'd be a lot more impressive than that. They would likely be capable of pulling you into a psuedo-dream environment with absolute realism... as well as giving you super powers.
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3. February 2009 @ 06:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ya I remember that! Too bad I'll be dead around that time (2078). I don't want to live when I'm in my 90's; be kind of boring.


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3. February 2009 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So what's this 2012 bull?


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3. February 2009 @ 11:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? You haven't heard of it yet?

...well, in that case, I won't tell you. (Yes, yes, wallow in your own curiosity... yes, yes... your anguish sustains me...)

But there's this big thing about how a bunch of prophecies all choose 2012 as the year of some world-changing event - usually in a bad sense.

There's this thing about how the Mayan calendar predicts the Earth, Sun, and galactic center (ie the big supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way) will all be aligned on December 21, 2012, and that something crazy-massive's gonna happen.

Then there's something about some Chinese fortune-telling thing that predicts time ending in 2012... and something else about how spider-bots or some Internet-searching thing originally used to predict stock prices predicts the end of the world in 2012 and stuff...

There's a History special on it. It's great stuff.
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3. February 2009 @ 14:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the chinese thing, I assume you're referring to Time Wave Zero. A guy named Terence McKenna used the Chinese I Ching to create a timeline. Valley's tend to fall into historical time periods where there is a lot of suffering. Peaks tend to show when there is a historical point where things are going well. They call them Novelty points. There are points before humans existed, as well. On 2012, the time wave ends completely... some call it the infinity point...

Am I the only AboveTopSecret forum member here?

anyways, there's actually several events that either start or end in 2012-2013.

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3. February 2009 @ 15:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seriously? Am I REALLY seeing a debate over a satirical commerical that's roughly ten years old?

Realistic?

While we're at it, has anyone seen 'The Incredibles'? How did you feel the realism was there?

Oh, and JFK was shot with a MAGIC bullet, geez. lol.



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3. February 2009 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, can anyone tell me how long the warranty last for on the ps3 as my lens has went and im about to break the warranty seal. I bought my ps3 in july 2007. Ta
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Try the PS3 Hardware forum, this thread is based on a fictional commerical and probably won't offer any assistance.



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3. February 2009 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, thanks handsom
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I see what you did thar, handsom.
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3. February 2009 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Drats! Foiled again!

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddlin' KajNrig!



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4. February 2009 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
;) All for you, man.

Anyway, uh... Playstation 9.

...actually, Playstation 4. THAT seems like something more worthy of talk, especially if anyone knows about Holographic disc technology. It'd be mighty complicated, though. (As if the current generation isn't complicated enough...)
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sony is claiming to only release a console every 10 years. sorry but you might have to wait until 2016 not 2011 :/
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...Sony can claim anything they like. As far as I'm concerned, Sony Console A is 'done' when Sony Console B is launched. Sure, it might flail about for another year or two, but it simply becomes a less viable option. Sony is also claiming that the PS2 has a ten year cycle, which is a load. The system came out (here in the US) October 26, 2000. And let's be honest with ourselves, if there are less than twenty decent titles in a year, across all genres (Because most of us don't play ALL of them), the system is basically dead. The PS2 game selection slowed down in 2007. Yeah, it's been seeing stripped down versions of Madden and Rock Band(WAY stripped down!) and a couple lego titles, as well as a few late ports of JRPGs... But that's really about it. Sony released God of War 2 in March of 2007, to make a big stink about how they weren't abandoning the system... and it was basically the last big title on the system from them.

Sony managed to push the PS2 for seven years, which is a good run, a very good run. But you can't honestly tell me that it's still a real contender for the current generation of gamers. I mean the thing is showing up at garage sales, and on Craigslist for less than twenty bucks. Even in 2007, God of War was "THE" big title that year, and it was in the first Quarter... That's realistically about 6 1/2 years of shelf life.

Sony's claim of ten years doesn't mean that they won't produce a new system... It means they'll keep claiming that the old one is still a good choice, whether it's realistically true or not. My guess is we'll start hearing talk of PS4\New Xbox around 2010\11. Not much sooner than that, save a few rampant and uncredible rumors.

And anyways, why is everyone so interested in talking about hardware that's SO far down the road anyways? The way that technology moves, one can't even make a well educated guess about that. Will it be VR? Will it cross the 'uncanny valley' in graphics(No, it won't. Research shows that game companies will actually stop prior to this, for reasons that are purely psychological, and not just because people would run out and shoot eachother... it's found that fantasy doesn't satisfy the escapist gamer as much when it becomes too realistic looking, it doesn't feel like fantasy anymore... Interesting, no?). Maybe they'll be able to utilize more forms of movement from your body, like a much more advanced Wii. Maybe the games will all just stream from a server to your system without using any discs. Maybe it'll have a ten terabyte hard drive, and record every conversation you have nearby it, to send to the industry for market research. lol. Who knows?

Bottom line, the 360 and the PS3 are amazing systems... So enjoy them right now! ^_^

Oh, and big brother is watching you.



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4. February 2009 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by handsom:
(No, it won't. Research shows that game companies will actually stop prior to this, for reasons that are purely psychological, and not just because people would run out and shoot eachother... it's found that fantasy doesn't satisfy the escapist gamer as much when it becomes too realistic looking, it doesn't feel like fantasy anymore... Interesting, no?).
Tell that to Square Enix, who just oh so loves to try and make their characters oh so pretty and lifelike and make everything oh so prettyful and then forgets about the actual game.

Just sayin'. No hard feelings at all.

That said, I'd like to talk about that holographic disc thing just because it IS being developed right now, and it IS pretty damn amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

Not the greatest of sources, but eh. I can't be arsed to try harder.

But yeah... if that was somehow eventually put into a PS4, I'd be baffled at the price of it, especially if it's going to have the PS3 Cell AND the PS2 EE processors in it, as well... 'cuz you KNOW the launch models are gonna have to have backwards compatibility...

But yeah. I've got nothing to really talk about. Cool beans.
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Meh, Square Enix makes 'pretty' darned well. But take another look, they deliberately make their characters retain a slightly anime structure, particularly in faces. They know the line, and have no intention of crossing it. Especially for them, it goes from being a 'fun game' to a repetitive menu navigation with boring CGI throughout... Anyone remember the days of Sega CD and the 3DO? lol.

As for technologies in development... The holographic disc won't be here for quite some time. It's too early in development, and even when they 'figure out' how to make it practical for home use, it's generally another five years on top of that before it will hit the real home user market.

That said, I think we can anticipate that all future systems will be branded 'multi-core'. The 360 has a triple, the ps3 has 8, and most new rigs being sold are quad core. It's estimated that by the end of this year, new gaming rigs will be between 6-8 cores themselves. At some point, this will have to be limited; because we can't just rely on multiple cores for added speed, it can only do so much. But I don't believe that this is going to be the way of superiority in the next age of consoles. I do predict we'll get very 'close' to the uncanny valley, but not quite there yet, at least not in games that require a lot of details and objects, such as GTA(Hot dog stands with packets of catsup, a pile of partially soiled napkins wavering in the breeze, and a towel hanging off the siderail that realistically moves as the owner moves his cart to a new street corner) or a WWII shooter(Think bushes, trees, grass, realistic sand with believable footprints, etc). With the exception of sports titles, and games that don't need a lot of detail right up close(Generic 'super-sterile' sci fi shooters, and sports titles that limit in the scope of what's needed up close) I don't think we're ready to render on-the-fly in that kind of detail. If we were, you'd be seeing a heck of a lot more CG movies in theatres.

There's been talk of processors that literally piggy back off the ideas of DNA\Genetics, using a similar strand of data that can react to multiple requests with the same kind of speed that most man-made machines still cannot, while holding unfathomable amounts of data. But then again, it's been in development for almost ten years, and it's just nowhere near ready yet.

Also, take into account that with the economy in it's current state, there's just not much money going into these research departments, things are going to slow down. So there's no telling when things like the 'holodisc' etc will actually hit. It's unfortunate, but it seems to be the way of things. -.-



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6. February 2009 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
Really? You haven't heard of it yet?

...well, in that case, I won't tell you. (Yes, yes, wallow in your own curiosity... yes, yes... your anguish sustains me...)

But there's this big thing about how a bunch of prophecies all choose 2012 as the year of some world-changing event - usually in a bad sense.

There's this thing about how the Mayan calendar predicts the Earth, Sun, and galactic center (ie the big supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way) will all be aligned on December 21, 2012, and that something crazy-massive's gonna happen.

Then there's something about some Chinese fortune-telling thing that predicts time ending in 2012... and something else about how spider-bots or some Internet-searching thing originally used to predict stock prices predicts the end of the world in 2012 and stuff...

There's a History special on it. It's great stuff.
We should be worrying about Y2K.

EDIT: Sorry for off-topic thing. So.. Um...

Yeah PS9.

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6. February 2009 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by zax808:
sony is claiming to only release a console every 10 years. sorry but you might have to wait until 2016 not 2011 :/
Actually they're claiming a 10 year life cycle, it could overlap with the PS4's life cycle for a few years like the ps2 with the ps3.

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