Originally posted by homesick:

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the x-clamp has a 98% success rate, he isnt doing something right.

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Originally posted by homesick:

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i disagree i said 98% success rate not 100%, i would forget the penny trick sometimes useful, but most often not, if you do the x-clamp correctly you should very, very, rarely get problems, (or you just have bad luck) after an x-clamp fix failure i would just have it reballed/reflowed. (and yes there are some small things you can do heat up the mb with foil, cook it, etc. but i am telling you i seriously think they are all a joke and a waste of time, and even if it does work, those fix's usually come back to haunt you. its x-clamp for the win, and reflow comes in second, after that its just a book case end.

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Originally posted by homesick:

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lol dead thread! btw thor is correct. But I still stand by my x-clamps as well. they are all still running perfect!

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Originally posted by C4RN1:

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Well after reading awhile i'm ready to post a response.

I don't know how many consoles you've repaired homesick but that 98% figure is way off. Error 0102 is a error in the digital backbone. From my experience it's usually the ram comming off the board from the bottom and also the gpu having a cold solder point. If you do the penny fix and llammas xclamp fix it will more than likely repair the console.

If you go back a few weeks you'll see me complaining about a rrod console that i fixed maybe 6-8 months ago and now it comes back with a e71, 0102, 0103, 0010 and freezing issues. The xbox seemed to be working when i got it back and it stumped me as it played halo for a good 45 mins before freezing. I ended up taking the board out and using 1 penny wrapped in tape for each ram chip. Between the penny and the chip was that puddy ms uses with the pink band-aid like material removed.

Anyway after overheating the xbox i had to fix the e-71 error and then everything was gravy.

12 hours of testing (continous play on halo) and everything was still working. If that console comes back then no doubt you'll hear about it. Just for future refrence, i'm always doing the single penny plus xclamp fix from now on. It's not worth it to take the xbox apart a second time, and more than likely with these two combined you'll have a 100% success rate. So far about 45-50 consoles repaired and 100% success rate, so we'll see what the future brings.

A few tech notes

0010- board flexing (probably from too many pennies/penny fix)
0020- xclamp replacement too tight (zephyr-falcon)
0102- gpu connection, or ram connection (digital backbone connection)
0103- cpu connection

E 71- bad system update (x,x,lb,rb,xx RESET, Power with sync button pushed in till dash loads)

E 74- Hana/Ana chip connection (fix with weight and heat)

Metal Case Modifications
Remove fan mesh (file down sharp edges)
Push down or sand the standoffs

If anyone has any questions let me know

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Originally posted by Oner:

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Originally posted by homesick:

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i disagree i said 98% success rate not 100%, i would forget the penny trick sometimes useful, but most often not, if you do the x-clamp correctly you should very, very, rarely get problems, (or you just have bad luck) after an x-clamp fix failure i would just have it reballed/reflowed. (and yes there are some small things you can do heat up the mb with foil, cook it, etc. but i am telling you i seriously think they are all a joke and a waste of time, and even if it does work, those fix's usually come back to haunt you. its x-clamp for the win, and reflow comes in second, after that its just a book case end.

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98% 100% - semantics much? The point was it is not a definitive fix. I have a computer business and have been building, repairing and maintaining PC's for over 10 years...I would think I know what I am doing when it comes to a 360 (plus having done quite a few already as I explained).

Also what is with your "heat up the mb with foil" comment? The foil mod is a lesser known mod that allows the flow of air coming out of the shroud to fully cover the whole cooling fin and not just the first 1/3. If you where to use foil on the mb to heat it up as you say you could ground it out and short out something anywhere that the foil touches on an open IC leg or a voltage point causing even more damage....

The Xclamp, 8-12 Penny and 12 volt fan mods are all mods that are widely used and promoted at Xbox-Scene.com (probably the most definitive online site for repairs & mods of all sorts). So while the Xclamp is the most used that doesn't mean it is an absolute fix. I have had additional RROD's/RLOD's along with many other people even AFTER an Xclamp mod and as you can see from the pic I posted my hardware is clean & spotless so it's not something about misuse etc.

I would also prefer a reflow over an Xclamp as that addresses one of the main issues at the source of the problem (separation of the legs/chips from the board because of the solder itself) then all that is left is to address the lack of heat dissipation. Either way as I said the Xclamp is not even a "98%" fix. They still fail again no matter what in due time no matter what you do.

But I agree with the bookend idea for the most part, because like I said when it happens again and my last attempts to "fix" it don't work, I will either use it as a book end or just shoot it with my 12 gauge just like I did with one of my original Xbox's ;)

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