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Best way to view vids on HDTV?
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zafos
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2. February 2009 @ 15:17 |
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OMG, XBOX360 IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER...kidding ;P
I want to view anime eps on my hdtv. And I want to view them in the best possible quality.
I've come to understand that there are 3 ways to view them:
1)Stream the using tversity or whatever it's called
2)Convert them using ps3video9 (what I am currently doing)
3)Connect my laptop to my tv using a DVI or sth to hdmi cable(since my laptop doesn't have any hdmi ports), which according to my friend is the way to get the best quality.
Note that my tv supports 1080p and is connected to my ps3 via hdmi cable...also note that I don't care how much time the proccess takes and would like the best quality even if the time it takes isn't worth it for anime eps, as I am a stupid and obsesive perfectionist :p...no rly!
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2. February 2009 @ 16:17 |
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Best possible quality would be # 2 or 3. But you'd have to play the audio through pc speakers for # 3. And # 2 as I'm sure you've already noticed takes an annoyingly long time if you've got an entire series.
You might end up actually getting the better, faster, and easier results from #1. Whats your PC/Laptop's specs and how is your Laptop/PC/PS3 connected to the router.
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zafos
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3. February 2009 @ 04:07 |
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Damn, isn't there no way to transfer the audio feed to the tv as well? Is 3's picture quality better than 2's at least?
I connect either my pc or my ps3 to the internet with an ethernet cable to the router...(can I have them both connected if I connect my laptop to usb at the same time I connect my ps3 through ethernet? Or can I create a wireless network or sth from my laptop?)
My laptop is an acer aspire 7520G(that's how much GOLD I had to pay, lol). It has a 17" LCD screen, AMD Turion 64x2 TL60 (2.0 GHz, 2x512 KB L2 cache) cpus, Geforce 8600M GS, 2GB DDR2 ram, etc...
Thank's for ur help btw :)
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3. February 2009 @ 06:25 |
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If you have an external drive, just plug that into the PS3, and go to the Videos Tab, and it should show the videos inside the external HDD. Just make sure that the extension isn't a ".mkv". The PS3 won't play those (yet). I tried the Dark Knight in 720p with tversity, and it just lags too much.
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zafos
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3. February 2009 @ 06:40 |
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Originally posted by DavGerm4:
If you have an external drive, just plug that into the PS3, and go to the Videos Tab, and it should show the videos inside the external HDD. Just make sure that the extension isn't a ".mkv". The PS3 won't play those (yet). I tried the Dark Knight in 720p with tversity, and it just lags too much.
No, the eps I'm downloading aren't playable by the ps3, they have to be converted by ps3video9 1st...
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zafos
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3. February 2009 @ 06:45 |
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Btw, I've converted some vids with the ps3video9 and they don't have the subtitles they had before! 1 of them doesn't even have audio! What's up with that?
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KajNrig
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3. February 2009 @ 11:23 |
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What format are the anime eps in, then? Usually, I see anime in the .mkv container, since it's got good support for text subs and stuff.
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3. February 2009 @ 13:16 |
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Originally posted by zafos:
Damn, isn't there no way to transfer the audio feed to the tv as well? Is 3's picture quality better than 2's at least?
I connect either my pc or my ps3 to the internet with an ethernet cable to the router...(can I have them both connected if I connect my laptop to usb at the same time I connect my ps3 through ethernet? Or can I create a wireless network or sth from my laptop?)
My laptop is an acer aspire 7520G(that's how much GOLD I had to pay, lol). It has a 17" LCD screen, AMD Turion 64x2 TL60 (2.0 GHz, 2x512 KB L2 cache) cpus, Geforce 8600M GS, 2GB DDR2 ram, etc...
Thank's for ur help btw :)
With the program you're using to convert them likely yes, 3 will be better than 2. You can get the same quality out of 2 using a different program but it will take longer as it does a better job, which is a real pain when watching an entire series as I had mentioned.
And no if you use the dvi to hdmi cable you wont be able to get sound to the tv as dvi doesn't transfer audio but the tv will always assume that because its hdmi that's where the audio source is as well and you usually cant select a different audio input if say you got an adaptor to hook the audio from the laptop to the tv using your standard red and white composite cables.
Your laptop looks like it has enough muscle to handle streaming at full quality, but you will have to have both the laptop and the ps3 on a wired connection to the router or else you will run into buffering issues. PS3 media server is the best one out atm for applications specific to the ps3 because unlike tversity it can stream MKV files.
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3. February 2009 @ 13:21 |
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Originally posted by KajNrig:
What format are the anime eps in, then? Usually, I see anime in the .mkv container, since it's got good support for text subs and stuff.
It really depends on the fansub company these days, a lot of them will use the avi container because they know that a lot of people want to watch them on things other than their computer.
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 04:29 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by KajNrig:
What format are the anime eps in, then? Usually, I see anime in the .mkv container, since it's got good support for text subs and stuff.
It really depends on the fansub company these days, a lot of them will use the avi container because they know that a lot of people want to watch them on things other than their computer.
Yeah, my eps are avi,but since a certain funsubbing group stopped I switched to another, which has matroska files(wtf is that?!). One matroska 1080p was the 1 that, after conversion, had no audio and no subs...
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 04:35 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by zafos:
Damn, isn't there no way to transfer the audio feed to the tv as well? Is 3's picture quality better than 2's at least?
I connect either my pc or my ps3 to the internet with an ethernet cable to the router...(can I have them both connected if I connect my laptop to usb at the same time I connect my ps3 through ethernet? Or can I create a wireless network or sth from my laptop?)
My laptop is an acer aspire 7520G(that's how much GOLD I had to pay, lol). It has a 17" LCD screen, AMD Turion 64x2 TL60 (2.0 GHz, 2x512 KB L2 cache) cpus, Geforce 8600M GS, 2GB DDR2 ram, etc...
Thank's for ur help btw :)
With the program you're using to convert them likely yes, 3 will be better than 2. You can get the same quality out of 2 using a different program but it will take longer as it does a better job, which is a real pain when watching an entire series as I had mentioned.
And no if you use the dvi to hdmi cable you wont be able to get sound to the tv as dvi doesn't transfer audio but the tv will always assume that because its hdmi that's where the audio source is as well and you usually cant select a different audio input if say you got an adaptor to hook the audio from the laptop to the tv using your standard red and white composite cables.
Your laptop looks like it has enough muscle to handle streaming at full quality, but you will have to have both the laptop and the ps3 on a wired connection to the router or else you will run into buffering issues. PS3 media server is the best one out atm for applications specific to the ps3 because unlike tversity it can stream MKV files.
If I really can't get audio with 3 I think I'll stick to 2, since there are programms which can produce the same quality as 3. So can u plz tell me the best of these different programms?
And what am I doing wrong when I convert videos of 720p and 1080p that results in them having no subs or even audio after the conversion?
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 04:39 |
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I mentioned that the eps that didn't convert properly were all matroska files and usually they are 720p or 1080p...maybe they can't be converted? Some1 help me, cause I want to convert as high quality vids as possible, to get a higher quality converted video as well(when u convert a 1080p vid the result is a higher quality video than a converted 400p, right?)
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 04:43 |
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Does this thread need to move somewhere else, because it's not so much about ps3, but the best way to view anime eps in hdtv and if so, what do I have to do? I couldn't think a more relative categorie when I posted the thread...I'm sorry for any incovenience.
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 04:47 |
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Originally posted by zafos:
I noticed that the eps that didn't convert properly were all matroska files and usually they are 720p or 1080p...maybe they can't be converted? Some1 help me, cause I want to convert as high quality vids as possible, to get a higher quality converted video as well(when u convert a 1080p vid the result is a higher quality video than a converted 400p, right?)
LoL, how can I edit my thread?
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4. February 2009 @ 04:50 |
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i have a 42" lcd hdtv..i connect my laptop using the VGA cable(got lucky..has a vga connection on the back of my tv)..for sound i have a R/L audio to headphone jack cable($3 @Walmart)..the picture is amazing and sound is awesome..no draw backs or lag(from streaming)..plus when i plug in my laptop automatically set to the highest resolution possible..and can watch blu-ray video without having to buy a blu-ray player..but that just my opinion
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 05:32 |
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Originally posted by evnflow:
i have a 42" lcd hdtv..i connect my laptop using the VGA cable(got lucky..has a vga connection on the back of my tv)..for sound i have a R/L audio to headphone jack cable($3 @Walmart)..the picture is amazing and sound is awesome..no draw backs or lag(from streaming)..plus when i plug in my laptop automatically set to the highest resolution possible..and can watch blu-ray video without having to buy a blu-ray player..but that just my opinion
My tv also has vga, I think. But wouldn't connecting with dvi to hdmi be of higher quality? My tv also has a small hole that sais pc-in, wtf is that?
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4. February 2009 @ 05:58 |
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Originally posted by zafos:
Originally posted by evnflow:
i have a 42" lcd hdtv..i connect my laptop using the VGA cable(got lucky..has a vga connection on the back of my tv)..for sound i have a R/L audio to headphone jack cable($3 @Walmart)..the picture is amazing and sound is awesome..no draw backs or lag(from streaming)..plus when i plug in my laptop automatically set to the highest resolution possible..and can watch blu-ray video without having to buy a blu-ray player..but that just my opinion
My tv also has vga, I think. But wouldn't connecting with dvi to hdmi be of higher quality? My tv also has a small hole that sais pc-in, wtf is that?
i would prolly go with the dvi to hdmi route..but if you have an extra vga cable lying around, i would try that and see how you like the picture..instead of running out and buying a new cable....but from what i've read dvi to hdmi is a crisper picture..hence VGA(analog) vs. DVI(digital)
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 07:34 |
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Originally posted by evnflow:
Originally posted by zafos:
Originally posted by evnflow:
i have a 42" lcd hdtv..i connect my laptop using the VGA cable(got lucky..has a vga connection on the back of my tv)..for sound i have a R/L audio to headphone jack cable($3 @Walmart)..the picture is amazing and sound is awesome..no draw backs or lag(from streaming)..plus when i plug in my laptop automatically set to the highest resolution possible..and can watch blu-ray video without having to buy a blu-ray player..but that just my opinion
My tv also has vga, I think. But wouldn't connecting with dvi to hdmi be of higher quality? My tv also has a small hole that sais pc-in, wtf is that?
i would prolly go with the dvi to hdmi route..but if you have an extra vga cable lying around, i would try that and see how you like the picture..instead of running out and buying a new cable....but from what i've read dvi to hdmi is a crisper picture..hence VGA(analog) vs. DVI(digital)
Hm...but digital signals can't be converted into analog, I think it only goes there other way around...so even though u'd have an analog cable it would still be a digital signal, wouln't it? And in digital signals isn't hdmi better?
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4. February 2009 @ 11:50 |
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Originally posted by zafos:
I mentioned that the eps that didn't convert properly were all matroska files and usually they are 720p or 1080p...maybe they can't be converted? Some1 help me, cause I want to convert as high quality vids as possible, to get a higher quality converted video as well(when u convert a 1080p vid the result is a higher quality video than a converted 400p, right?)
Its likely that the audio tracks and subtitles are overlays and not hardcoded into the video like with most avi's,it makes it a tricky multistep process to get them to convert properly as one program dosent fit all with videos. This is why I'm suggesting streaming using PS3 media server, you can get full quality out of it with little or no hassle if you set things up correctly, the only drawback is that you cant fast forward or reverse it quickly.
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LoL, how can I edit my thread?
Top right corner of each post on the yellow bar there's a notepad and pencil, just click on that and it will bring you to an editing screen.
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 13:13 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Its likely that the audio tracks and subtitles are overlays and not hardcoded into the video like with most avi's,it makes it a tricky multistep process to get them to convert properly as one program dosent fit all with videos. This is why I'm suggesting streaming using PS3 media server, you can get full quality out of it with little or no hassle if you set things up correctly, the only drawback is that you cant fast forward or reverse it quickly.
Hm...So can I stream by connecting my ps3 and my laptop to the same modem, the ps3 by ethernet and the laptop by usb? And will the quality be the same or better than 2 or 3?
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4. February 2009 @ 16:40 |
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Originally posted by zafos:
Hm...So can I stream by connecting my ps3 and my laptop to the same modem, the ps3 by ethernet and the laptop by usb? And will the quality be the same or better than 2 or 3?
It should yeild the same results as the other two if the settings are done properly. Both the laptop and ps3 need to be using a wired connection to the router or else you will run into buffer issues because of the wireless. Idk what you mean by hooking it up using usb?
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zafos
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4. February 2009 @ 18:34 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by zafos:
Hm...So can I stream by connecting my ps3 and my laptop to the same modem, the ps3 by ethernet and the laptop by usb? And will the quality be the same or better than 2 or 3?
It should yeild the same results as the other two if the settings are done properly. Both the laptop and ps3 need to be using a wired connection to the router or else you will run into buffer issues because of the wireless. Idk what you mean by hooking it up using usb?
The modem has an ethernet port and a usb port, to choose how do u want to connect it with the pc. What if I connect the ps3 to the modem by ethernet and the laptop to it by usb at the same time?Is it possible to do 1 like that?
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4. February 2009 @ 20:48 |
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I don't think the modem can create a LAN between the ps3 and the laptop. I had assumed that you had a router of some kind.
You're going to have to go with #3, And use headphones or computer speakers for the sound. evnflow got the sound to work somehow, I've never seen a tv be able to select its audio and visual inputs separately, but from what he said its possible.
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4. February 2009 @ 21:02 |
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most tv's that have a vga cable input have a setting for PC..here is a link to the cable for the sound to come out of your headphone jack on your laptop to your tv audio inputs: http://www.amazon.com/RiteAV-3-5mm-Stere...3799149&sr=1-19
and just use a normal VGA cable for video..that's my setup and i'm very satisfied..picture/sound amazing..
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zafos
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5. February 2009 @ 05:16 |
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Originally posted by evnflow:
most tv's that have a vga cable input have a setting for PC..here is a link to the cable for the sound to come out of your headphone jack on your laptop to your tv audio inputs: http://www.amazon.com/RiteAV-3-5mm-Stere...3799149&sr=1-19
and just use a normal VGA cable for video..that's my setup and i'm very satisfied..picture/sound amazing..
Ok, so I'll definitely have to use that cable for sound.
I don't doubt that vga to vga it's amazing, but is dvi to hdmi more or less amazing than that in my case xd? I'm gonna have to buy a cable, it might as well be the best 1...
Plus, there is a pc-in little round hole on my tv, what wire does that require can a higher quality conection be made from there?
Oh, and my tv does have a pc channel like u said.
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