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Charter Communications to start bandwidth caps

article published on 5 February, 2009

Following yesterday's news that Time Warner was expanding their metered Internet trials to a few new cities, Charter Communications has also announced that they will be introducing bandwidth caps on their cable Internet service. Charter, the fourth largest cable company in the US, will set tiered caps, meaning "customers who purchase speeds of up to 15 Mbps to 100 gigabytes a month, while ... [ read the full article ]

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dappy123
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6. February 2009 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am a Time Warner customer. It's chilling. It's not unlike an increase in tax.
The BANKS screw us with all kinds of charges and they place their customers in a situation where most will end up paying them in some way.

The CREDIT CARD companies rob us with immoral interest rates and late charges that they cause by sending bills that are due in less than a week in some cases.

The ISPs are going to be next, of course TAXING us through metering our usage. It reminds me of the toll roads that are being put into place.

The GOVERNMENTS(not just the US) are taxing us out of sight then BAIL OUT all of the above and you and I PAY for it ALL.

Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER! The HOUSE of CARDS is about to collapse.
We are all living under a KLEPTOCRACY (please Wiki and Google that word).
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7. February 2009 @ 02:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bassdog69:
windsong, This DOES sound like a future we want to avoid. However, this article and the subsequent comments are 3 YEARS old! I would have to think that ESPN has changed it's tune due to the fact that when I click on the site there are NO ISP restrictions shown at all. I think the idea of net neutrality is INCREASING every day. even though ISP's are going the broadband restriction route, I don't think we really have to worry about ala carte cable models permeating the web. Look at what happened to AOL. They started making deals with certain entertainment providers and people left them in droves. The whole REASON people are flocking to the net AWAY from cable is because they don't want to pay for programming that they never watch. I would be interested to hear your response : )
3 years old?
http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/02/espn-stands-fir.html

In any event, I have seen the writing on the wall for a few years now due to the corporate fiasco dealings with Bell Canada attempting to throttle/force caps on the smaller ISPs like TekSavvy (family owned/only 25K customers) simply because Bell owns the "last mile" of lines to the doorsteps. Tariffs are a bit different here in Canuckland but not so different than the U.S. to make me think we have it any better up here than Americans. The tariffs keep Bell in line only half of the time, though every once in a while some nut will say "well, its BELL's DSL lines..they can throttle/cap the resellers/wholesaler ISPs if they want!"...not admitting of course that Bell's "lines" were built by taxpayer funds. The PEOPLE owned the lines, not Bell.
Long story short, if Bell screwed their own wholesaler/reseller ISPs on throttling and are trying to FORCE TekSavvy into mandating 60gig caps similar to Bell's own caps (TekSavvy gives its customers unlimited at 40 per month)..why wouldnt they screw over their own customers with cable-like "theme" packs? The local cable co already does that to us in Ontario. Rogers cable does it too. Its the slowly-but-surely boiling frog maneuver these fatcats like to employ on their own customers.

The whole fiasco with my own Canadian situation resides in my Canadian (Bell) corporate fascists attempting to bully the small-family owned ISPs into forcing mandatory caps on its customers (TekSavvy). The ONLY reason Bell Sympatico intigated caps (they used to be unlimited a year or so ago but switched to 60 gig caps/month) was because they knew people were avoiding their Bell Expressview pay-per-view and downloading movies from the net instead..USenet, P2P, FTP, etc.

I hate to be a negative Nelly here but, I have a feeling that in a few years Bell will eventually try to block premium news service providers like EasyNews and Newshosting using the same excuses they use for P2P, namely that the 1% of heavy downloaders make the web experience intolerable for the other 99% of users..which of course is a fabricated lie.
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7. February 2009 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bigger Faster go WORLD go

I think the faster the net gets the better off we'll all be. No matter what we need more more MORE

hahahaa

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8. February 2009 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ISP's are starting to put caps on bandwidth because they see the future. Streaming video, radio, music downloads, everything internet. They see the money machine. Inpose low caps now and rape the consumer later!
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8. February 2009 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This makes me sick. The only high-speed ISP that's available in my area is Charter, so I don't have any other options for my ISP. 100 GB a month might be reasonable, but I have no clue how much bandwidth my entire household uses. Since I've heard of ISPs limiting bandwidth, I've been monitoring my bandwidth, and my computer has been using under 4 GB a month for that past 7 months. However, my house has five computers networked along with a PS3, so I have no clue how close to that limit I'll be. Do routers exist that monitor the amount of bandwidth that goes to the modem?

Some of the above comments do make me question as to how they'll enforce this policy. If you already subscribe to their cable and HD lineup, do they care if you go over your limit versus if you only have their internet service and no cable tv, will they charge very much for going over? Either way, I don't like the idea that my internet use might become limited from always being an unlimited service. I hope they don't continue through with their plans, but I don't have much faith in that.
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8. February 2009 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the way I dont know about anyone else but those speed test online cant be right I tried 20 or more stes and I got varing speeds from

Lowest I got was

1.5 dL
250k ul

But the highest I got and checked this on severl sites was

10500 DL
5678 ul

So tell me why the big difference in the site and the lowest one I got was from charter who i get internet from.
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8. February 2009 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wolf, you're probably getting the same (similar) readings, just in different measurements. Go to http://www.speedtest.net and I'll show you what I mean.

1)find the yellow pyramid that is closest to you, click on it to start the test

2)after it is finished, click on "compare your results to others"

Here it will show you your speed in kilobits. 11869 is mine in kb/s. Now, on top it gives you the option to change how you view your results. If you change to kiloBYTES it would show 1186.9 Kb/s. If you changed it to megabits it would show 11.869 mb/s. Lastly, if you changed it to megaBYTES it would show 1.18 Mb/s. Hope that helps : )

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8. February 2009 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I gues now I get just a bit more then you 12385
bassdog69
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8. February 2009 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wolf123:
I gues now I get just a bit more then you 12385
Actually, I ran the test after using uTorrent (BitTorrent client) all day. My speeds right now are 13315 kb/s dl and 1862 kb/s upload. Not trying to play "mine is faster than yours" lol, however, I just upgraded from the 10M charter package to the 16M package because of reading this article. I figure if I am subscribing to their "best" package, when they start limiting bandwidth, they might give me a deal or something! Wishful thinking, I know... I actually should be getting closer to 16000 kb/s but it is almost 6' o' clock PM which is the time the most people are online using up bandwidth. What ISP are you using Wolf?
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9. February 2009 @ 16:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by bassdog69:
windsong, This DOES sound like a future we want to avoid. However, this article and the subsequent comments are 3 YEARS old! I would have to think that ESPN has changed it's tune due to the fact that when I click on the site there are NO ISP restrictions shown at all. I think the idea of net neutrality is INCREASING every day. even though ISP's are going the broadband restriction route, I don't think we really have to worry about ala carte cable models permeating the web. Look at what happened to AOL. They started making deals with certain entertainment providers and people left them in droves. The whole REASON people are flocking to the net AWAY from cable is because they don't want to pay for programming that they never watch. I would be interested to hear your response : )
3 years old?
http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/02/espn-stands-fir.html

In any event, I have seen the writing on the wall for a few years now due to the corporate fiasco dealings with Bell Canada attempting to throttle/force caps on the smaller ISPs like TekSavvy (family owned/only 25K customers) simply because Bell owns the "last mile" of lines to the doorsteps. Tariffs are a bit different here in Canuckland but not so different than the U.S. to make me think we have it any better up here than Americans. The tariffs keep Bell in line only half of the time, though every once in a while some nut will say "well, its BELL's DSL lines..they can throttle/cap the resellers/wholesaler ISPs if they want!"...not admitting of course that Bell's "lines" were built by taxpayer funds. The PEOPLE owned the lines, not Bell.
Long story short, if Bell screwed their own wholesaler/reseller ISPs on throttling and are trying to FORCE TekSavvy into mandating 60gig caps similar to Bell's own caps (TekSavvy gives its customers unlimited at 40 per month)..why wouldnt they screw over their own customers with cable-like "theme" packs? The local cable co already does that to us in Ontario. Rogers cable does it too. Its the slowly-but-surely boiling frog maneuver these fatcats like to employ on their own customers.

The whole fiasco with my own Canadian situation resides in my Canadian (Bell) corporate fascists attempting to bully the small-family owned ISPs into forcing mandatory caps on its customers (TekSavvy). The ONLY reason Bell Sympatico intigated caps (they used to be unlimited a year or so ago but switched to 60 gig caps/month) was because they knew people were avoiding their Bell Expressview pay-per-view and downloading movies from the net instead..USenet, P2P, FTP, etc.

I hate to be a negative Nelly here but, I have a feeling that in a few years Bell will eventually try to block premium news service providers like EasyNews and Newshosting using the same excuses they use for P2P, namely that the 1% of heavy downloaders make the web experience intolerable for the other 99% of users..which of course is a fabricated lie.


windsong, I was referring to the first article you showed me which is going on 3 years old: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=...rom=rss
Although, now that you showed me this one, I am beginning to understand that ESPN is trying to change the entire model of how we are going to receive content from the internet in the future.
What steps (and this is for everyone) do you think we should take to reverse this process? Do you think an all out ban on ESPN is called for to nip this thing in the bud? Or are we already past that, maybe ? I for one, have no problem boycotting ESPN as I have grown increasingly apathetic to their programming, even though I am an avid sports fan.
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5. April 2011 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got a call from Charter saying I cap my bandwidth, I'm like if you pay for a 18mb download speed for sure I'm going to share this with more than just one computer, and 250gb isn't really that much when you share this with 3 other computers. btw that 250gb is upload AND download!!! if you ever want to change to charter for a faster speed make sure you don't use any cuz if you do it's gonna cap that bandwidth. with a 18mb download speed you can cap that bandwidth within a week!!
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