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Girl arrested for texting during school
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article published on 18 February, 2009
A 14-year-old girl from Wisconsin has been arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Her crime? Repeatedly text-messaging during class time at school.
The police report also notes that the girl continually denied that she even had a phone on her person when asked to stop texting in class.
The school then called the police authorities and the officer who responded questioned the ... [ read the full article ]
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19. February 2009 @ 00:29 |
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WOW, public schooling has hit a new low... I understand the teacher taking the phone and only returning it to a parent, which was the custom in my school. But getting arrested! What the hell is the world coming to?!?!?!
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19. February 2009 @ 00:59 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
I call people during my classes, ffs...
This is a joke, I'm not even going to bother with it lol
I remember calling my dad in the middle of class. The teacher kept saying "Alex, get off the phone". Then my dad picked me up.
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19. February 2009 @ 01:53 |
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I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist - I remember getting the cane for running down the school corridor to make sure I wasn't late for one class change at the opposite end of the building. I also remember the entire class of 32 being pulled out of one young teacher's class by the deputy headmaster for being "noisy" - three of us were marched off to the headmaster's office for lining up outside with our hands in our pockets.
Hey , things seem to be improving (slightly) at least :)
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19. February 2009 @ 04:28 |
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Well what i think most people missed about this one is 1She was at the school so why OOO why did the DUMB officer ask her for a number for her parints and why did the school not call them there self eather the school recoreds have contact numbers for the pairnts so think about it people
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DTN107
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19. February 2009 @ 05:24 |
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"Spare the rod, spoil the child"
It seems many of you guys are not aware how American's public school are going down the drain each new generation. I can bet if anyone here knew the girl personally would agree she needs a good smacking up the head.
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19. February 2009 @ 10:53 |
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Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
Then don't go to school and sit in class and text if you don't want to learn. Maybe there are people there that do want an education so don't make it harder for them.
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19. February 2009 @ 11:38 |
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Originally posted by domie:
I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist - I remember getting the cane for running down the school corridor to make sure I wasn't late for one class change at the opposite end of the building. I also remember the entire class of 32 being pulled out of one young teacher's class by the deputy headmaster for being "noisy" - three of us were marched off to the headmaster's office for lining up outside with our hands in our pockets.
Hey , things seem to be improving (slightly) at least :)
Oh ive got the wooden paddle filled with holes before, some where in 98 they got rid of the whole thing. before 98 they had to have written consent to paddle you, or they call your parents so you got one there and you got one at home.
and yes i believe a good spanking goes a long way.
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19. February 2009 @ 12:05 |
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If you wanna text during class, then fine whatever... As long as your ringer is off... That's the only way its gonna cause a major distraction...
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19. February 2009 @ 12:29 |
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Don't the po' po' in Wisconsin have cow tippers to arrest?
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19. February 2009 @ 14:12 |
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Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
In my day we went to school to learn, and to prepare ourselves for the big wide world, ie for a life long slog at work
Originally posted by domie:
I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist
Indeed, same here. Whilst i am 'young minded' ie old(ish) in years but young enough in my views/outlook on things i most definitely do not agree with mobile phone (ab)use in school. School is for learning, and discipline set us up well for later life. Don't get me wrong, i was an absolute tearaway at school (even at 6th form) but i'm sure glad that every darned kid didn't have such things as phones in my day. Back to the police aspect of this News item, i think calling the police was over the top, but schools should have every right to ban or limit the use of phones in schools (in lessons anyway, i don't mind the little buggers using them in breaks).
Originally posted by ydkjman:
Then don't go to school and sit in class and text if you don't want to learn. Maybe there are people there that do want an education so don't make it harder for them.
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19. February 2009 @ 23:35 |
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so she got arrested for lying to an office about texting. not texting persay.
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20. February 2009 @ 07:13 |
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
The police report also notes that the girl continually denied that she even had a phone on her person when asked to stop texting in class.
The school then called the police authorities and the officer who responded questioned the girl and interviewed her friends. When the officer tried to contact the girl's parents, "She gave me several numbers all being false by one or two digits wrong. [Redacted] stated I was dialing the wrong numbers so On [sic] speaker phone I dialed the number she gave me and spoke with a subject who stated I had the wrong number."
The girl was the one being a (I don't know if we can curse) bad witch. Why are you guys on her side. I've read stuff where you guys say how out of wack the american educational system is, then an article like this comes out and all the sudden everyone supports unruly students and feels they should be allowed to disrupt everyone else who's trying to learn.
Pick a side and choose one.
#1 The girl could have not texted. I'm sure there are school rules against it.
#2 She could have put her phone on silent so that even if she was texting, the teacher would never know. Thats a no brainer.
#3 She could have given her phone to the teacher
#4 She could have told the truth about the phone.
She had all the chances, but she didn't use any of them. I say its her fault.
American schools are over crowded. Here you have a student who clearly doesn't want to learn, is disturbing others and causing a commotion and has better things to do with her time... why is she allowed to clog up the system? If they expelled all the students like this, the teacher:student ratio would become more reasonable and I think the quality of education received would increase.
Or if they brought back corporal punishment. Nobody likes a spanking, especially in front of your peers. I bet if there was the possibility of getting spanked, she would have kept her cell phone at home or on silent like a responsible student.
She asked trouble and get it. Can only blame herself.
Hope someone learn something from this thing.
EDIT: My first thought after reading the news was: Is that teen a idiot?
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20. February 2009 @ 15:30 |
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The girl was just texting. Last time I checked, text messaging is a mostly silent activity and bothers no one but the person receiving the texts.
Disorderly conduct is an incredibly inappropriate charge.
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20. February 2009 @ 16:39 |
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Lying is not a criminal offence wtf is this all about!?
*irrelevance removed*
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domie
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20. February 2009 @ 17:15 |
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Originally posted by tru23nyte:
Lying is not a criminal offence wtf is this all about!?
try lying to a judge in court - see how far you get in later arguing that it wasn't a criminal offence ;) I believe it's called perjury.
lying to a police officer is only one step down from that - it's called perverting the course of justice :)
both are criminal offences no matter what the crime - most famous recent case :-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/a...lice/article.do
frankly, if they didn't have this listed as a criminal offence - crime detection rates would decrease quite substantially methinks - and i'm not talking about online piracy ;)
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20. February 2009 @ 18:31 |
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there shouldn't have been a reason to call the police in the first place, this could have been resolved at the school with a call to the parent and some detention. let her clean the school campus a couple of times for detention and what not.
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21. February 2009 @ 11:24 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
there shouldn't have been a reason to call the police in the first place, this could have been resolved at the school with a call to the parent and some detention. let her clean the school campus a couple of times for detention and what not.
I like how everyone is sticking up for this dumb shit! Any time you do anything in the middle of class that has no relavence to what is being taught, the teacher & school have the right to do what is neccessary, and they did. Simply put, you don't care about the class and don't wanna learn....drop out of school, end up on some street corner sellin yourself for $10 per hand job, and wonder if texting was really that much more important than learning.
I mean really, is texting during school really needed, would someone have died had she not been texting? Of course not, but she is probably the same type of dumb shit who is texting at other times she shouldn't that would actually kill someone...IE Driving a car! I know i'm not the only one who has seen that!!!!
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21. February 2009 @ 12:11 |
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Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
it is disruptive to the whole class and detracts from everyones learning experience. so,in fact,it is everyone in that classes future.if we had had cell phones when i was in school,the teacher would have likely warned her a few times,then crushed the f@@@@n thing under his or her heal.your use of the english language not only proves that you are on her side in this,but that you probably also text in school.learn something already.
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27. February 2009 @ 10:21 |
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Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
B.S! The bloody beeping bothers everyone near her. If she doesn't want to pay attention, quit. She's wasting everyone else's time anyways
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27. February 2009 @ 16:33 |
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Lying to a police officer, or anyone at all, for that matter, is in fact NOT a crime (I challenge anyone to find ONE statute otherwise in any municipality in the US or in Federal law), unless it is used to avoid punishment for another crime, or to allow said crime to be commited. Texting is not a crime, nor does it fall under "disorderly conduct" in any law, whether criminal or tort. Ergo, lying to a police officer about said texting is, in fact, perfectly legal.
I've asked 5 lawyers about this today, and all of them didn't believe me and had to look up the Yahoos - and I mean that in a very "Swiftian" way >.< - in Wisconsin themselves... The responses ranged from hilarity to stunned silence.
I agree, misbehavior of nearly any sort is disruptive in a classroom. I cannot count, however, the number of more disruptive, more damaging, and even outright illegal behaviors that I saw/see in schoolrooms every day. Theyleave texting far back, eating dust, in terms of obnoxiousness.
Edit--> How in the world would you know if the phone was beeping or not -.-' ? Just about all cell phones have a "Silent" mode, and/or you can generally specify just about any given sound (or lack of it) for most events in many phones' settings.
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28. February 2009 @ 17:28 |
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Starting off, this article states erroneously that she was arrested. The news article just stated she received a $289 citation and was suspended from school.
I am sure texting by itself would have been nothing. Sounds like the girl was being obnoxious to the teacher when asked to stop. In a California school with teens, the teacher would have just called campus security and they probably would have confiscated the phone/suspended the student. Could be this school had no on site security so the police were called instead. Someone with an ounce of brains would know that you need to be polite and respectful to a police officer at this point. You can be fined for just about anything at any time (I was once fined for wearing DJ type headphones around my neck while driving). You have the option to take it to a judge who can drop the fine, but that is up to their discretion. All told, the girl was probably trying to remain "hard" in front of her peers and I hope she has to pay the fine. Teachers have a hard enough time dealing with overcrowded class sizes and constant bureaucracy.
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First, I live in Wisconsin so lets get one thing straight, we only cow tip in the summer when there is no snow. ;-) The snow not only makes it easier to track you but will slow your escape! No I do not know the student either.
I am from the era of students where cell phones only existed in KITT and still should not be allowed in the classroom! If you need to text do it between classes and during lunch! If something is that important excuse yourself from class and take care of it that or the school will find you and give you the info you need. That is how it worked back in the day with us.
I am not siding with the student but the police should have been kept out of it with the exception of the liaison officer that may have been at the school. We had one back in the 80's. these days some schools need their own swat team though.
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2. March 2009 @ 18:13 |
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Reading some of the messages posted on this board it became obvious that students should pay attention in class rather than texting. The spelling mistakes are shameful but not surprising. How did we ever survive without cell phones? Hey kids, wake up. The job market you'll be entering is incredibly tough. You'll need much more than texting savvy to get by.
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3. March 2009 @ 12:53 |
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Originally posted by sledge27:
Reading some of the messages posted on this board it became obvious that students should pay attention in class rather than texting. The spelling mistakes are shameful but not surprising. How did we ever survive without cell phones? Hey kids, wake up. The job market you'll be entering is incredibly tough. You'll need much more than texting savvy to get by.
I can spell just fine. My grammar could use some work. In a non formal blather bath who really cares.
Waht od yuo caer,Hwo ym splleing si?
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3. March 2009 @ 18:06 |
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DXR88:
Waht od yuo caer,Hwo ym splleing si?
Very clever, but I don't care. People who are more interested in texting than learning in the classroom will find out (too late) that they should have been more serious about school. While that's their problem, I would hate to see society having to support them while they keep looking for meaningful employment. Ya know?? As for having the little texter arrested... I can't imagine that being any more than a (cell phone-less) inconvenience. That said, I guess I would have to agree... what a waste of good police manpower.
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