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Fox to remove all extras from rental DVDs
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article published on 15 March, 2009
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment has announced that they will be creating two classes of DVDs for now on, a "premium" version with extras and digital copies and a "rental" version which removes all extras and will be available for rental only.
Beginning March 31st with the release of Slumdog Millionaire, "wholesalers will be authorized to sell rental accounts only the rental SKUs and ... [ read the full article ]
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gogochar
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15. March 2009 @ 13:55 |
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That won't deter pirating since the only thing one wants is the main movie itself. Also, this might actually promote rental sales (a good move for rental stores) for the above reason. Hopefully, they'll remove all advertising on the DVDs and up the quality a little bit since you have more room on the DVD now to put your movie on.
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5fdpfan
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15. March 2009 @ 14:00 |
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This is bullcrap!
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15. March 2009 @ 14:13 |
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Originally posted by gogochar:
That won't deter pirating since the only thing one wants is the main movie itself. Also, this might actually promote rental sales (a good move for rental stores) for the above reason. Hopefully, they'll remove all advertising on the DVDs and up the quality a little bit since you have more room on the DVD now to put your movie on.
I agree with you totally
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15. March 2009 @ 14:31 |
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?We have developed product variations to feed different consumer consumption models and behaviors,? read a Fox statement. ?For rental customers, [color=red]we?re delivering a theatrical experience in the home while promoting upcoming releases[/color]; for retail [or sell-through] customers, we?re offering a premium product that expands the entertainment experience of that particular property to further enhance ownership.?
DId you read the whole thing they are going too ad advertising.
Plus I heard they are adding it too the movie itself advertising.
Who cares in a few years they will phase regular DVD's out all together for BD am I right or am I right.
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15. March 2009 @ 15:49 |
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To be fair, who actually watches the special additional features? Unless your extremely bored or a hardcore fan you probably wouldn't.
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15. March 2009 @ 16:09 |
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Well with BR repalceing DVD bit by bit this is not to strange but with the add production costs I doubt they could do this with blu ray discs...
It would be funny if they did the only forced advertisement on rental copies.... I am sure rental places would start losing customers...
On a side note it would be interesting to have acouple dozen or so 1 minuet or less previews then make something that could randomly play 3 or 4 at the start of a disc or a moive(shippable of course).
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15. March 2009 @ 16:28 |
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Sounds like bare minimums with regard to the rentals. That's cool in some cases, but I like the bells and whistles on some of the new releases.
Addressing piracy is probably a factor but I think their focus is more about getting you to buy than rent. Also, if you think they're going to "up the quality" and remove advertising on the rental version, think again. The whole idea is to get you to buy, not offer a KIA alternative.
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15. March 2009 @ 16:56 |
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What do the plan to achieve from this besides rasing their own costs by having to manufacture different discs for sale and for rental. What about the customers that like to purchase previously viewed discs. If their goal is to detour alleged pirates of the movies they will be sorely mistaken. I would suspect that 80% of the people that rent or purchase a movie just care about the movie itself. I cannot think of the last time I watched the extras on any disc.
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15. March 2009 @ 17:26 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
What do the plan to achieve from this besides rasing their own costs by having to manufacture different discs for sale and for rental. What about the customers that like to purchase previously viewed discs. If their goal is to detour alleged pirates of the movies they will be sorely mistaken. I would suspect that 80% of the people that rent or purchase a movie just care about the movie itself. I cannot think of the last time I watched the extras on any disc.
True I mean all it will do is make the rental discs cheaper when they sell them off unless they make it part of the contract all of these rental only discs are to be destroyed and the rental industry wont like that.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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15. March 2009 @ 18:08 |
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This is a waste of money. They are going to * hurt their own pockets with this.
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15. March 2009 @ 18:37 |
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Language, dude.
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15. March 2009 @ 19:06 |
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every rental store ive ever been to ends up selling rental copies...so wonder how thats going to pan out.
I never really even watch the special features ive watched them on like 5 dvds out of the 2,000+ ive seen.
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Originally posted by Tecbot:
every rental store ive ever been to ends up selling rental copies...so wonder how thats going to pan out.
I never really even watch the special features ive watched them on like 5 dvds out of the 2,000+ ive seen.
If the industry lowers the the cost of buying dvds then it will be a worth while trade off but frankly this plan is full of holes.
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15. March 2009 @ 21:28 |
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Originally posted by Tecbot:
every rental store ive ever been to ends up selling rental copies...so wonder how thats going to pan out.
I never really even watch the special features ive watched them on like 5 dvds out of the 2,000+ ive seen.
This will just draw down the price of the DVD's with the special features on them. Like you said, you don't watch them, and like many others here have said too, they don't watch them. So that would make most people chose the featureless ones over the one's with features. Anyways, don't they pretty much already do this with all that "Super Special Edition" crap?
It'll be like buying a used Chevy Cobalt or Dodge Caliber. Those are rental car fleet cars, so when you want a used one you have a crapload to choose from that are all falling apart.
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16. March 2009 @ 09:43 |
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they should start selling two versions of the movie to customers. A more expensive "premium" version and a "movie only" version for a cheaper price. That way if you don't usually watch the extras then you could save yourself the money. They should definitely do that with blu-ray as well.
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16. March 2009 @ 10:14 |
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Originally posted by AXT:
they should start selling two versions of the movie to customers. A more expensive "premium" version and a "movie only" version for a cheaper price. That way if you don't usually watch the extras then you could save yourself the money. They should definitely do that with blu-ray as well.
I can see that. $19.99 for movie with Extras and $14.99 for Movie only? And if it is on sale at release date for $15 the movie only should be $12 or something like that.
Also along those lines all movie studios need to do what Disney has been doing and including a DVD copy of the movie with all Blu-Ray Sales. I think that is a wonderful idea for those that have plans to move to Blu-Ray in the future and do not want to have to re-purchase any movies.
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16. March 2009 @ 11:06 |
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Originally posted by gogochar:
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That won't deter pirating since the only thing one wants is the main movie itself. Also, this might actually promote rental sales (a good move for rental stores) for the above reason. Hopefully, they'll remove all advertising on the DVDs and up the quality a little bit since you have more room on the DVD now to put your movie on.
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I agree this would increase the video quality and you would not have to sit there and delete it yourself.
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16. March 2009 @ 11:11 |
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In many cases, they will only encourage piracy. Yeah . . . let's punish the customers who actually fork up money every month as a subscription to watch our movies.
Now, if someone wants this and is too cheap to buy the movie . . . hello Mininova and Pirate Bay where someone who has bought the movie will post the extras since there will now be a demand for them.
Way to go industry. They were way behind on offering digital media, and now they think they know best for it.
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16. March 2009 @ 12:43 |
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Why do you knucklebeaks think this is to prevent pirating? I think this is to increase sales by making a premium version only for sale. (which in my opinion will not work). I'm pretty sure 20th century fox realizes that pirate's only want to copy the movie not the extra's. I don't think I've ever watched extra's on a burned movie nor a real one.
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16. March 2009 @ 12:53 |
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I see a lot of agenda and misguided opinion driving a lot of people to misunderstand the situation here.
What they're doing is putting value back into ownership of DVDs.
When you rent a movie, you're wanting to watch the film - that's it.
When you buy a movie, you want all the bells and whistles because you already know you have enjoyed the film and want to add it as part of your library. If you can access all the same content through rental as you can buying, then there's no benefit in owning.
They likely would have created different versions from the beginning, had it been cost effective. With today's technology, there is likely little (if any at all) setup cost involved between batch running the different versions. Tick a box or two on a GUI and voila... they are pressing the alternate version. Perhaps even simply selecting a different target source folder - which they do anyway between title runs.
I think it's great. It's exactly what I want as a consumer. If I'm renting - give me only the movie. That's all I'm concerned about. If I like it, I'm going to buy it and add it to my collection - and to top it off, going to get extras. I don't see the problem at all.
There is also obviously confusion over "advertising." What they're talking about is the "comming soon to home video" intro trailers, which will not be removed. Only the special features and expanded content. Some folks really do live in the land of black helicopters and fear the creatures under their beds. ;-)
It actually saves them money by not having to go back to retool and re-release special editions, director's cuts, etc. because they did not include those extras the first time around. Now that storage is available via DVD-9 and BluRay, they can release a light version for rental and a full blown version for retail simultaneously.
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16. March 2009 @ 16:11 |
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Originally posted by pirkster:
I see a lot of agenda and misguided opinion driving a lot of people to misunderstand the situation here.
What they're doing is putting value back into ownership of DVDs.
When you rent a movie, you're wanting to watch the film - that's it.
When you buy a movie, you want all the bells and whistles because you already know you have enjoyed the film and want to add it as part of your library. If you can access all the same content through rental as you can buying, then there's no benefit in owning.
They likely would have created different versions from the beginning, had it been cost effective. With today's technology, there is likely little (if any at all) setup cost involved between batch running the different versions. Tick a box or two on a GUI and voila... they are pressing the alternate version. Perhaps even simply selecting a different target source folder - which they do anyway between title runs.
I think it's great. It's exactly what I want as a consumer. If I'm renting - give me only the movie. That's all I'm concerned about. If I like it, I'm going to buy it and add it to my collection - and to top it off, going to get extras. I don't see the problem at all.
There is also obviously confusion over "advertising." What they're talking about is the "comming soon to home video" intro trailers, which will not be removed. Only the special features and expanded content. Some folks really do live in the land of black helicopters and fear the creatures under their beds. ;-)
It actually saves them money by not having to go back to retool and re-release special editions, director's cuts, etc. because they did not include those extras the first time around. Now that storage is available via DVD-9 and BluRay, they can release a light version for rental and a full blown version for retail simultaneously.
But most expanded content is already on a 2nd disc, the cost of pressing out a whole extra line of discs seems to contradict any cost saving measure. Not to mention when rental puts those discs up for sale they are going to sale at a loss to the rental store.
It seems to me they would save time/money by just releasing the normal "DVD" when it hits the theaters, then release a collectors/directors a few months later to re serge interest.
They could press out DVDs for rental and not do BR films but that would damage BR rentals and money gained, the only alternative is to replace normal DVD releases with the rental only ones but that hurts the rental stores more unless they offer them at a price that makes up their re sale of the discs later on.
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16. March 2009 @ 20:03 |
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If anyone here actually rented movies that had a 2nd bonus feature disc you'd know it was never watched,all the rentals i've hired have had mint condition bonus dvd's ,can't say the same for the movie disk,so it makes perfect sense & more than likely was brought about by rental franchises asking for it to be done
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It will Never Happen and if it does Long live the Bay.
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16. March 2009 @ 22:13 |
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Oh no, now i have to make a decision, buy the movie with the extra features or rent the movie by itself WHICH IS THE WHOLE REASON WHY I WOULD PAY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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17. March 2009 @ 00:15 |
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Originally posted by scorpNZ:
If anyone here actually rented movies that had a 2nd bonus feature disc you'd know it was never watched,all the rentals i've hired have had mint condition bonus dvd's ,can't say the same for the movie disk,so it makes perfect sense & more than likely was brought about by rental franchises asking for it to be done
No kidding fellas. I have all 6 Star Wars DVDs and I'm a hardcore fan... couldn't tell you if I've seen all of the special features of EACH movie or not... so what does that say for Slumdog Millionaire and countless other movies I may watch once in a blue moon?
Once again, I'm not stupid, nor are most consumers. If I really want to see a movie that badly, I'll hit the theater. If I miss the theater, there's a "hell or high water" chance of me paying FULL price to own what could turn out to be a stinker; special feature or not, I can wait 6 months to a year to get it for $5-10 cheaper than it's release date price.
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