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NAGRA 3 Rollout In Ireland - Channels Affected So Far
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26. March 2009 @ 08:03 |
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its definately affecting some people but i dont see what the problem in just waiting to see what happens is. whatever happens we can all get through once we stick together
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alfredous
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26. March 2009 @ 09:36 |
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May I remind some of you guys that the boxes are not, in and of themselves, illegal. You may elect to scan for free-to-air channels only! Should you choose to use the available technology for unlawful purposes, that is very much a personal choice.
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 09:45 |
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they are illegal to connect them boxes to any cable feed as we do not have a free to air system in Ireland please read below
Annex - Provisions under Irish Legislation
Broadcasting Act 1990
Section 9
(1) No person, other than a duly authorised officer of the Minister, shall, in relation to a service provided by a licensee or a service provider-
(1)
( a ) intercept the service, ( b ) suffer or permit or do any other thing that enables such interception by any person, ( c ) possess, manufacture, assemble, import, supply, or offer to supply, any equipment which is designed or adapted to be used for the purpose of enabling such interception by any person, or ( d ) publish information with the intention of assisting or enabling any person to intercept such a service.
No person shall-
( a ) knowingly install or attempt to install or maintain any equipment which is capable of being used or designed or adapted to be used for the purpose of enabling such interception by any person, or ( b ) wilfully damage or attempt to damage a system or part of a system operated by a licensee or service provider.
Section 10 Broadcasting Act 1990
(3) A person who contravenes any provision of subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence
(1) No person, being the owner of, or in control of, or concerned in the management of, any premises shall knowingly suffer or permit any action or conduct to which section 9 relates to occur on such premises.
(2) A person who contravenes subsection
(1) shall be guilty of an offence.
(3) Where in proceedings for an offence under this section it is proved that an offence was committed in or on particular premises and that the defendant was, at the time of the alleged offence, the owner of, or in control or concerned in the management of, the premises then, unless there is sufficient other evidence to raise an issue as to whether the defendant knowingly permitted the offence to have been committed, he shall be treated as having so suffered or permitted the offence to have been committed.
Section 11 Broadcasting Act 1990
A person guilty of an offence under section 9 or 10 shall be liable:
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or, at the discretion of the court, to a fine not exceeding ?1,270.00,
or
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or, at the discretion of the court, to a fine not exceeding ?25,400.00 or to both such fine and such imprisonment.
Copyright and Related Acts 2000
Section 372
A person who is authorised by the rightsowner-
(a) to make charges for the reception of programmes included in a broadcast or cable programme service, or
(b) to send encrypted transmissions of any other description, has the same rights and remedies against a person who-
(i)
(I) makes,
(II) sells, rents or lends, or offers or exposes for sale, rental or loan,
(III) imports into the State, or
(IV) has in his or her possession, custody or control,
any apparatus or protection-defeating device, knowing or having reason to believe that the apparatus or device is to be used to enable or assist persons to receive those programmes or transmissions when those persons are not so entitled, or
(ii) provides information, or offers or performs any service, intended to enable or assist persons to receive those programmes or transmissions when those persons are not so entitled,
as a rightsowner has in respect of an infringement of any of his or her rights under this Act.
EC (Conditional Access) Regulations, 2000 (SI 357 of 2000)
"protected service" means any of the following services, where provided against remuneration and on the basis of conditional access -
(a) television broadcasting, meaning the initial transmission by wire or over the air, including that by satellite, in unencoded or encoded form, of television programmes intended for reception by the public and includes the communication of programmes between undertakings with a view to their being relayed to the public, but does not include communication services providing items of information or other messages on individual demand such as telecopying, electronic data banks and other similar services,
3. A person who -
(a) for commercial purposes -
(i) manufactures, imports, distributes, sells, rents or possesses, or
(ii) installs, maintains or replaces, illicit devices, or
(b) uses commercial communications (including all forms of advertising, direct marketing, sponsorship, sales promotion and public relations) to promote illicit devices,is guilty of an offence.
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26. March 2009 @ 09:54 |
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great post.
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ddp
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26. March 2009 @ 12:51 |
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there won't be a war as long as we mods are watching.
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26. March 2009 @ 12:55 |
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in our mods we trust
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yelly
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26. March 2009 @ 13:23 |
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Originally posted by Hubabuba:
A big thankyou to all those guys and gals,who kept the boat afloat fergusrb,Celtic, Karljd, Desb, Scouser, Noelyf Evastar, cyborCop, and all those who contributed to eamos library,once again thanks if I could buy you all a drink, I would, some of you guys are legends in this part of the world. I hope it won't be to long before a fix is found, Go Raigh mile maith agat.
+1 big thanks guys
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Elvis64
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26. March 2009 @ 14:32 |
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Originally posted by yelly:
Originally posted by Hubabuba:
A big thankyou to all those guys and gals,who kept the boat afloat fergusrb,Celtic, Karljd, Desb, Scouser, Noelyf Evastar, cyborCop, and all those who contributed to eamos library,once again thanks if I could buy you all a drink, I would, some of you guys are legends in this part of the world. I hope it won't be to long before a fix is found, Go Raigh mile maith agat.
+1 big thanks guys
My sentiments exactly. Many thanks lads & ladies. Here's hoping it's not the beginning of the end
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26. March 2009 @ 14:37 |
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with so many helpful people on this site i cant see it being the beginning of the end
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batman44
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26. March 2009 @ 14:47 |
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Why all the doom & gloom, its the beginning.
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s411ota
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26. March 2009 @ 15:43 |
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Patience is most definitely a virtue in this case.
Come on chaps, ultimately nothing on Earth is un-crackable.... it's just a matter of time.
So chill.
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26. March 2009 @ 16:02 |
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Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965), Speech in November 1942
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chubbe
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26. March 2009 @ 16:03 |
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As any computer scientist or cryptographer worth his salt knows, relying on a "secret" algorithm invariably fails as it's just program code sitting inside a machine i.e. very easy to reverse engineer. I'd say nagra provides security through obscurity and nothing else. It will be cracked
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flanzer
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26. March 2009 @ 16:06 |
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What worries me about the whole thing is no one has managed to crack S*y yet, so I've a feeling it'll be years before Nagra 3 gets cracked :-( . I suppose all good/great things come to an end
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s411ota
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26. March 2009 @ 16:22 |
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besides, it may be at least 6 months before they get around to the UK :)
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 16:25 |
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LOL and the rest it will be at least another year it will be if not longer by that time it will be well open
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s411ota
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26. March 2009 @ 16:27 |
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sarahash
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26. March 2009 @ 17:34 |
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was changing channels on my euro vox max v and a message came up on tv screen ( in box where normally says things like "insert smart card") message was something like this "there is a fault in your unit, please contact supplier do not atempt to reload channels" it then went off. the green light was still on in the box but was froozen like.I unlplugged and plugged in again but nothing happened it is completly dead no greem or red light! can anyone help
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 17:35 |
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box is bunched and needs now to be jtaged as it must be a clone box and the firmware you loaded onto it has now killed it
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sgt_grant
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26. March 2009 @ 17:54 |
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l like all the postivity in here tonite ng 3 will be cracked nothing is impossible!!!!!
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 17:57 |
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if they can rip n2 they can rip n3 just time frame thats all
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EDCA5E
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26. March 2009 @ 18:02 |
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Originally posted by chubbe:
As any computer scientist or cryptographer worth his salt knows, relying on a "secret" algorithm invariably fails as it's just program code sitting inside a machine i.e. very easy to reverse engineer. I'd say nagra provides security through obscurity and nothing else. It will be cracked
If its that simple then why are there not A07 dumps and disassembleys of the code everywhere?
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 18:07 |
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well how come krypt has a file done
that is down to other manufacturers to do that
and also maybe down to wanting new box sales
and lastly GREED i would say
thats why the others are not done
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mgb17
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26. March 2009 @ 19:07 |
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The N2 UPC card for Switzerland (cablecom) was cracked in summer 2008. Its not a big surprise that the N2 card for UPC Irland is cracked now.
N3 is a different question.
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fergusrb
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26. March 2009 @ 19:11 |
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yep true have a little faith in the people thats all that is needed people thought that the cable boxes would not work on this and only the linux based ones would
that theory has been busted with the linux boxes now trailing behind the plain cable box and still no sign of a fix for them either
nothing is impossible if you give it time
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