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Nagravision 3(nagra 3/N3) What is it and what channels are affected by it?

Q: What is nagravision 3 (Nagra3 for short) ?

Nagravision is an encryption method used by both satellite providers.
This locks and secures their channels so that only subscribers who have authorization can view.
Nagravision 1 and nagravision 2 (nagra 1 & nagra 2) have been compromised and exploited, allowing unauthorized access via hardware and or software to view their channels. Naturally when this happens the providers must find a way to lock their signals again, if only as a way to inconvenience you momentarily in hopes you find an easier way. (Just pay them monthly). Remember, if no one paid for the birds in the sky you wouldn't be watching them.its always a very very good idea to pay for their services. If only for a basic subscription.

Q: What about new software?

No one knows this information besides the coders. They will not disclose to much info before hand, but at the moment no Fixes or hack's have been invented.

Q: If it does get cracked, how long will it take?

Again, the same thing applies. We simply do not know.
We do know however, the switchover from Nagra 1 to Nagra 2 was only a matter of a few weeks. But this may not be as easy as last time. Only skilled coding teams will know what it takes. Most of the upper/common coders,or spokesman's for them have already stated that they are working on it. As soon as the files are finished we will have it published free. A rough Guess would be over a year, thats how long Nagra2 took.

Q: What channels have already switched over to Nagra 3, thus resulting in a black screenm or "Bad or Scrambled Channel"

NTL (Virgin) is currently making the switch now, shutting off the lights to Nagra 2 and only using Nagra 3 as their encryption method.
Many channels such as HD and some premium movie channels have been reported down, it is only a matter of time before is completely dark.
As from February 19th, the switch has started in the UK and Ireland. (Mostly Ireland) and All the Adult channel's as well as a few sport's channel's have been switched over.

Remember,there is a whole sky up there full of channels that in many cases are free and clear,using 0% encryption.that's why your receivers are 100% legal. Of course I only recommend buying and using your fta receivers for their intended use,and any other information as always is for educational use only.

So in short the dark days are ahead and only coders releasing new software for Nagra 3 will turn the lights back on.

We recommend that you start recording some of the shows in case of prolonged blackout.

The N3 switch, what to do & what you should not do...

Except for old timers, most of you have never seen a Nag switch.
There is no need to keep posting (I lost channel x, how do I get it back?)
We all know the providers are switching to N3. You will lose more & more channels until they are all gone. You will get scrambled channels, sound but no video, ect. All that is to be expected during a switch, there is nothing you can do about it except making sure the channel loss is not on your end.

As time goes on, rumors will surface like you have never seen. You will also see many scams.

Example:
N3 was hacked by a monkey in China, he has the hack for sale, we need money..
The monkey opened a private site , only $500.98 to join..
We almost have the fix, we just need to tweak it, but ran out of money..
Your receiver won't work for N3, buy this one...
Keys will work...
My friend's uncle"s sisters, cousin has the fix, all channels wide open...

Keep your old receivers, we don't know what will work & what won't. If you have to have a new unit, buy a $100 one until this is over..

We have experienced people on this forum, that have been through these changes from the F card to N1, N2 & now N3.
We know where to look for bins & info, We have enough experience to know fact from rumors & scams.

We will be very busy, searching for info to keep you up to date. We will not have time to correct useless post by people who have no idea what they posted.

All we can do now is ride it out, & watch for new developments.

More info on N3:
Nagravision is a company of the Kudelski Group that develops conditional access systems for cable and satellite television. The name is also used for their main products, the Nagravision encryption systems.

Three versions of Nagravision are in common use for digital satellite television, known as Nagravision, Nagravision Cardmagedon, and Nagravision Aladin. Nagravision Cardmagedon and Aladin are often confused with each other. Nagravision Cardmagedon is however, a complicated combination of Nagravision Aladin and Mediaguard SECA 2 encryption.

The decryption unit is either integrated into a receiver, available as a conditional access module (CAM), or as one of many encryption schemes supported on a CAM emulator.

Nagravision has been adopted all over the world as a conditional access system, with providers like Virgin Media in the UK and Dream Satellite TV Philippines (on Nagravision 1), Polsat of Poland, Digital+ Spain (now on Nagravision 3), TV Cabo Portugal, Premiere Germany, Digi TV Romania, B** TV and and Dish USA (On Nagravision 2).

The original Nagravision 1 is now almost obsolete after it was originally compromised in 1999, although Dream Satellite maintain relative security by changing keys several times throughout the day, causing great inconvenience to unauthorized viewers.

The Nagravision Aladin providers have been confronting the issue of satellite signal piracy and smart card piracy, since the system was publicly compromised in summer 2005. At first, security of the system was regained, with software revisions, manipulation of the Nagravision encryption algorithm, along with the phasing out of older cards, like the ROM101, ROM102, ROM103 in USA and ROM110,ROM120,ROM130 in Europe, in favor of the newer ROM142/ROM180.

Card hackers have, however, continued to compromise the encryption system, with continued software and key releases being made available to the public. Software emulation of the Nagravision system has been implemented in many Free-To-Air Satellite receivers, allowing unauthorized viewing to those who do not own an official card. As of the summer of 2008, the next version of Nagravision, nagra3, has been compromised in Europe.

Nagra 3 will be the same Nagra 3 here as there. There will be changes in map calls & timers like there is now. If Nagra 3 is cracked in Europe it will be cracked here as well. That does not mean there will not be upgrades to the code. There will always be that.

The real question is , will your current boxes (Starview etc.) & units handle the upgraded code?

The reason we have to wait is because our providers will adjust the ECMS so that it takes longer to hack, and so the coders cant just use the Euro coders work.

Hold Tight, and in the mean time I suggest you watch Free view, or pay for it.]

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Originally posted by SG8:

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The problem with this whole thing is with people posting inaccurate information. I know I don't know enough about this to post, but there are people posting who don't know that they don't know enough to post, so they do post and then we don't know who the people that don't know are and whether the people that do know are not posting enough of what they do know, or whether even they know enough to post what they know, or they know better than to post and confuse the people who know that they don't know and are trying to know by reading posts from people who do know and from people who don't know, you know?

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Originally posted by sc0user:

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How do you "know" that :)

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Originally posted by noelyf:

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I didnt know that! :)

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Originally posted by datsdat:

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im in dublin. have original(silver) starview and has been great till now, like everyone elses. have flashed it number of times and done same for other boxes so have a bit of cop on. any help appreciated, mite as well use box while waiting for fix

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