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DazedGuy
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23. March 2009 @ 02:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been reading some of the threads and I need some things to be clarified. I have a benq drive and I know I need a pcisata card and a pc to flash it with, but is there a specific one or model that i need? any recomendations? and just to make sure, I don't need a specific model of DVD-DL drive to burn games, but only if i wanted to rip games right? if you have any other information that might be helpful feel free to tell me.
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23. March 2009 @ 06:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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DazedGuy
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23. March 2009 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't see a guide for a benq in the ultimate stickie i do see ones for liteon and hitachi though. I also remember that quote you used is from a hitachi guide, unless they use the same pcisata card? I have found a guide for benq and I wanted some clarification since it was only detailed on how to flash but not if I had a choice in PCISATA cards or if I had to get a specific one. Also i have read in some threads that I need a kreon drive to burn games, while other threads just say I need a kreon drive to rip games and any DL DVD burner to burn the games. Just want to confirm b4 I buy.
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23. March 2009 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I don't need a specific model of DVD-DL drive to burn games, but only if i wanted to rip games right?

Correct. A Kreon drive is needed for ripping, not burning.

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I know I need a pcisata card and a pc to flash it with, but is there a specific one or model that i need?

miketrev posted a link to the SATA card you need.

If you want a guide to flashing, try this one: -

http://rapidshare.com/files/212784954/JFGuide.zip

That's what I followed to flash my BenQ and it details every step perfectly. You'll need JungleFlasher and the iXtreme 1.51 firmware for BenQ drives which you can find easily enough.

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23. March 2009 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Kreon drive is usefull to RIP games but not needed if you are going to download your backup online. If you download online then you will need to check your download games thru a program called "abgx360".

You can burn your "backups games" with any burner that will support dual layer burning, however some burners do burn better than others, i burn with my Benq. Research online and see how good your burner is. I also use VERBATIM dual layter + DISCS (DVD+R DL). Never burn faster than 4x (2x is reccomended).

Mother board with nforce chipset or via chipset will work fine.

I used DOSFLASH32 for benqs, it is super easy and its virtually impossible to brick (break) a benq drive. (before you flash your benq..REMBMEBER TO ALWAYS BACKUP your ORIGINAL benq firmware, also save the key in a text file or email)

refer to here on how to actually flash
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/743364

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. March 2009 @ 22:34

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23. March 2009 @ 22:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xeonox:
Never burn faster than 4x (2x is reccomended).

I must have said this 3 times tonight, lol, but that's not good advice. The newest Verbatim 8X DL media don't even support burning at 2X: -




The speed you burn at really depends on your drive and how compatible is with the media you're using, because 8X gives better results for me than any other speed I've tried with those particular Verbatim discs. 4X may well be better for you with your particular drive, but what I'm saying is telling people to "never burn faster than 4X" is wrong, especially as in a lot of cases, burning slower will introduce more errors into the burn.
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23. March 2009 @ 23:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dont listen to FUNKSOULB, he still learning (as you can tell, hes using VSO software), and 3 times he gave the wrong information, the newer verbatim 8x media will burn slower than 4x, its just your burner or burning application, since people want to get technical in here on burning, it will burn at the speed your burner firmware supports and burning program supports, slower speeds are GENERALLY (but not always) better and reccomended, HOWEVER to find out you can burn at any speed but make sure its the speed that give you the least amount of PI FAILURES and PI ERRORS, burning using GRADE A meia always helps and is a major plus on life expectancy of your xbox 360 dvd's laser.

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FUNKSOULDB dont confuse people if you are confused.

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24. March 2009 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you always that patronising? I guess you must be a young lad, cos an adult wouldn't act like that.

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slower speeds are GENERALLY (but not always) better and reccomended

Even though this is untrue, it contradicts your statement here: -

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Never burn faster than 4x (2x is reccomended).

How are you burning those discs at 2X BTW? It's not even supported by your burner. 2.4X is. More mistakes!

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HOWEVER to find out you can burn at any speed but make sure its the speed that give you the least amount of PI FAILURES and PI ERRORS

At least you got something right, it's just a shame you think it's always the slowest speed that will give you the lowest number of errors, cos you're quite wrong.

Here's a site where you can educate yourself on disc burning: -

http://club.cdfreaks.com

Some quotes from one of their pinned threads: -

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Another part of the fact is that your media is designed for HIGH speed writing, NOT low speed! So while your media may SAY "1x-16x" or "1x-48x" or the like, your media is made more for the HIGHER end of its rating, and writes better in that upper echelon.

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"But on other places around the Internet, I see that lower write speeds are recommended for better write quality. Why do they say that?"

-These are nothing but outdated urban myths. The case used to be that, with lower quality drives not quite up-to-speed with the media, and with slower computers around unable to keep up with data flow, slower write speeds ensured the best quality. However, with modern computers and technology, writing is less dangerous, and some higher speeds will allow better writing than forcing lower speed.

BTW, your drive supports 2.4X for that media probably cos it's years old. I used to have one of those myself back in the day. The firmware for it hasn't even been updated for 2½ years, so perhaps you should consider upgrading.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. March 2009 @ 06:58

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24. March 2009 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I always burn at 8x speed (Verbatim and Platinum media) and haven't had a coster in 50 or so games. For Xbox 360 it's the same like for Gamecube, always burn at the speed that gives you best results and never touch a running system.

Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
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24. March 2009 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xeonox:
Kreon drive is usefull to RIP games but not needed if you are going to download your backup online. If you download online then you will need to check your download games thru a program called "abgx360".

You can burn your "backups games" with any burner that will support dual layer burning, however some burners do burn better than others, i burn with my Benq. Research online and see how good your burner is. I also use VERBATIM dual layter + DISCS (DVD+R DL). Never burn faster than 4x (2x is reccomended).

Mother board with nforce chipset or via chipset will work fine.

I used DOSFLASH32 for benqs, it is super easy and its virtually impossible to brick (break) a benq drive. (before you flash your benq..REMBMEBER TO ALWAYS BACKUP your ORIGINAL benq firmware, also save the key in a text file or email)

refer to here on how to actually flash
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/743364


Is the read, where it lets you backup? I follow the JF guide. Seems that would be smart to do just in case.
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24. March 2009 @ 23:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Are you always that patronising? I guess you must be a young lad, cos an adult wouldn't act like that.

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slower speeds are GENERALLY (but not always) better and reccomended

Even though this is untrue, it contradicts your statement here: -

Quote:
Never burn faster than 4x (2x is reccomended).

How are you burning those discs at 2X BTW? It's not even supported by your burner. 2.4X is. More mistakes!

Quote:
HOWEVER to find out you can burn at any speed but make sure its the speed that give you the least amount of PI FAILURES and PI ERRORS

At least you got something right, it's just a shame you think it's always the slowest speed that will give you the lowest number of errors, cos you're quite wrong.

Here's a site where you can educate yourself on disc burning: -

http://club.cdfreaks.com

Some quotes from one of their pinned threads: -

Quote:
Another part of the fact is that your media is designed for HIGH speed writing, NOT low speed! So while your media may SAY "1x-16x" or "1x-48x" or the like, your media is made more for the HIGHER end of its rating, and writes better in that upper echelon.

Quote:
"But on other places around the Internet, I see that lower write speeds are recommended for better write quality. Why do they say that?"

-These are nothing but outdated urban myths. The case used to be that, with lower quality drives not quite up-to-speed with the media, and with slower computers around unable to keep up with data flow, slower write speeds ensured the best quality. However, with modern computers and technology, writing is less dangerous, and some higher speeds will allow better writing than forcing lower speed.

BTW, your drive supports 2.4X for that media probably cos it's years old. I used to have one of those myself back in the day. The firmware for it hasn't even been updated for 2½ years, so perhaps you should consider upgrading.
youre not saying anything new that i didnt say after my 2nd post. like i said in the 2nd post, research your burner and see what gets you the least amount of errors. And even though my drive is over 2 years old, its still one of the best drives ever made that has the lowest amount of errors when burning.


And for the records, i didnt contradict myself; educate yourself on how parentheses work in the english grammer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parentheses (btw: i know i dont spell perfect before you comment on that next)

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25. March 2009 @ 02:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry, couldn't resist.

GRAMMAR.

that is all.
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26. March 2009 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TheIrishM:
sorry, couldn't resist.

GRAMMAR.

that is all.

lol, hey i told you!! haha
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