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12. May 2009 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

I think he's winding you up fergus.


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keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok i need you email and ill send tru there ok
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Vue:
I did a few searches related to nagravision 3
Seems to be a lot of work going into cracking the software
It's probably only a matter of time before we get the channels back
After all it's just software and any software can be manipulated
Rumours have it that it's already cracked but it will not be released
in Europe until the USA changes to Nagravision 3.

Then the whole world will be hacked and it puts the encryption companies back to square one
There is about 3 million reasons why nagra3 will not be cracked as quick as you hope/think....cause behind closed doors there is an insurance policy in place ....and i can tell you that nagra will not wanna be paying up on that deal if the system is broken inside 2 years....we should all be very happy we got the great service we did from s..view eu...vox etc etc/....for as long as we did,,,and we should be thankful of all the guys behind the scenes that released the firmware and loaders for these boxes over the past few years... So to all the admin and other posters cheers for everything ...but i think i better go and pay a sly bill for the 1st time in nearly 3 years...lol..thanks lads.

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keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am very sorry to let you no that euro**x st***iew and all these other boxes are still working so ????????? what are you talking about,,,so if nagra 3 is rolled out everwhere its only about time it will be cracked ok...
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by keating99:
I am very sorry to let you no that euro**x st***iew and all these other boxes are still working so ????????? what are you talking about,,,so if nagra 3 is rolled out everwhere its only about time it will be cracked ok...
Nagra 3 is not rolled out everywhere just yet..almost...and the channels you speak of are free to air channels.ppv still works if memory serves me right.......kr..view is the only box that the loop has not been closed on ....and it will be closed soon...
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ev sv dream all these boxes are working 100% unless it hasnt effected my area yet...im down south of ireland yano?
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 11:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
me too mate,,,im in waterford...iv even a guy,,,working for the enemy if ya get me...iv had st...view ..and the b.x,,,,iv flashed them all myself..as i do 360's wii's etc..so im not a noob in the scene....
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 11:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah,,,im cork which provider are you n*l or ch**** ??? and are all ur box goner?
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 11:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
with nthell......i had a st..view orig...downstairs...and the b.x upstairs....if ur still around the coastal areas of the country u may not be affected like us...just yet...but my mate on the inside tells me they are flat out with customers ringing getting back in there sports/movies ...iv tried rolling back firmware ...didnt work //went with latest firmware works as normal but will only find free to air..and the ppv still....sly sports etc movies ...setenta 1/2 gone ...but setenta ireland left...as i said i do iunderstand kr..view still works 100% but nthell are ready to put the hammer on that soon...as i said in my original post ..we had it great for an age...and now with the country in a recession ..not many of us will afford the premuim rates with sly/nthell.
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sounds very bad,i just read there on the net that they have 50% of nagra 3 out in ireland already,,,its gona be a disaster i mean it,,i hop soon very soon someone has the break through in nagra 3,,as you sed we just cant afford the other providers,,,what if we get cards wit nagra 3 already and get around then,,did you see sky are changing their cards too
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
everything can be reversed....so if the engeiner it to do one thing ...it can be reveresed....it will all be a matter of time before someone /or group which is the norm get there heads together..and it will take some time but im sure they will crack it..but nagra has signed a policy to say it wont be broken inside a certain time frame...if it is nagra will have to pay nthell/chours..a 7 figure sum....To answer your question i did get my nagra 3 cards from nthell....but iv switched to sly direct..sky can change there encryption every 30 seconds...hence sky direct has never been hacked ..well that the public are aware of...lol
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
an uncle of mine has his s*y card,,,then he has another one he incerts this one to recive all channels any ideas?do you know the time nagra have givin chours and ntl before it can be cracked,,months years
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the story that came out down here was the deal is rummored.. to be around ...2.1/2 to 3 years ....so if another box is released inside that time frame or even if there is a firmware for our exsiting boxes...nagra must cough up the cash...now to be honest in my opinion...i rekon there will be guys out there in the scene that will have it cracked inside 12-15 months...(hope sooner)...then u gotta get someone to start making new boxes.....then u gotta get them to an agent //then u gotta get firmware release's.. so im looking at the realistic side to all of this and saying.. I enjoyed it while i had it..and when it comes again i will enjoy it then....but im sports nuts so i gotta pay for me fecking subscription..lol or i will turn into an alco...
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ha ha ha,, Well to be honest i think the bad guys if you want to call them this are always goin to be ahead of(nagra) nthell and whatever you no,,i think there will be a fix for our current boxs soon
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by keating99:
Ha ha ha,, Well to be honest i think the bad guys if you want to call them this are always goin to be ahead of(nagra) nthell and whatever you no,,i think there will be a fix for our current boxs soon

you miss understood me there the bad guys are the cable providers....the good guys are the scence guys..lol..and yes i hope the scene lads can do it fast..fingers crossed..but google nagra 3 germany and u will find some great reading...enjoyed the chat hope its as nice in cork today as it is up here...we got sunny southeast for a change lol..goodluck.
nialeon
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12. May 2009 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have saved u a trip..take a read of this.........
not1active04-02-2008, 12:17 PM
I posted this on another site, because there were too many rumors and untruths being argued. Unfortunately testers who were not current were becaming very heated and downright ugly when more knowledgeable testers posted information they did not want to hear.

As a result, I made the following post to bring everyone up to date.

Guys I am one of your latest members and older than most of you, so please go easy on me. From a close friend with one of the providers.
1) Portuges Tv Cabo has been using Nagra 3 for 2 years. It has not been hacked.
2) Digital Bonus, Polle Cyfrowy Polsat, Digitalsi have all switched to Nagra 3. None are comprimised.
3) Premiere from Germany running for 3 months with Nagra 3 not hacked.
Andre Kudelski may have gone a long way to rebuid his image after the mistakes made with his Nagra 2 encryption. Andre Kudelski's Swiss based company has released a new standard in encryption.
This is what I know to date. By the end of 2008, FTA as we currently know it with Nagra 2, will have gone black.
Don't shoot the messenger!!
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats what i ment also
keating99
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12. May 2009 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
very good that post is great
fergusrb
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12. May 2009 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mmm did people say that N2 would not be cracked i think so and that was done as soon as it was released

do you honestly think that people are going to tell everyone that N3 is cracked or not they are biding their time till all is in place and then sort it now point in doing it now that will only give them time to change everything again so patient is a virtue
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12. May 2009 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by keating99:
ok i need you email and ill send tru there ok
ok mate i have sent you the email address to send the file to attach it to the email and i will check it out thanks

check your private messages above
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12. May 2009 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All software can be cracked, just takes some time

"ALL"

When n3 is cracked NTHell will have to do them all one by one again
nialeon
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13. May 2009 @ 04:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Vue:
All software can be cracked, just takes some time

"ALL"

When n3 is cracked NTHell will have to do them all one by one again
If so can you tell why the Playstation 3 or sky have not been hacked?...alot of ppl post one liners....some knowledge behind your statement would be great...thanks....and sorry fergus or scouser....i know its tv disscussion,,,and maybe should not have mentioned Ps3 here...but its just a point.
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13. May 2009 @ 05:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nialeon:
Originally posted by Vue:
All software can be cracked, just takes some time

"ALL"

When n3 is cracked NTHell will have to do them all one by one again
If so can you tell why the Playstation 3 or sky have not been hacked?...alot of ppl post one liners....some knowledge behind your statement would be great...thanks....and sorry fergus or scouser....i know its tv disscussion,,,and maybe should not have mentioned Ps3 here...but its just a point.
because sky use NDS encryption thats why and you are dealing with a different kettle of fish
nialeon
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13. May 2009 @ 05:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fergusrb:
Originally posted by nialeon:
Originally posted by Vue:
All software can be cracked, just takes some time

"ALL"

When n3 is cracked NTHell will have to do them all one by one again
If so can you tell why the Playstation 3 or sky have not been hacked?...alot of ppl post one liners....some knowledge behind your statement would be great...thanks....and sorry fergus or scouser....i know its tv disscussion,,,and maybe should not have mentioned Ps3 here...but its just a point.
because sky use NDS encryption thats why and you are dealing with a different kettle of fish

sorry fergus...im aware of that...i was just asking the poster vue..how much he knew and why he just posted a one liner of everything can be hacked!!
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fergusrb
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13. May 2009 @ 06:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry mate i thought that was for me

bust as he said everything is possible given time

same as N2 was cracked patients is all that is needed
 
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