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Hardware Mods V's Soft Mods
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littleduk
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7. April 2009 @ 06:39 |
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Hi Guys,
Appologies if this has been asked before...I have looked but cant realy see this question posed or answered.
Whats the difference between having a Hardware Mod as apposed to doing the software Mods?
Do the hardware chips give you anything more than what you get from soft modding? Are the wii's with the hardware chips as brickable with the probalems regions give if you use the wrong region for your wii?
Whats the best way to mod your wii in your opinion?
Opinions appreciated.
Thanks again :-)
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 07:14 |
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Hi there,
In my opinion a hardware mod is better than softmodding as for example: 1.my D2SUN V3 solderless chip supports many different brands of media so you are not just stuck with buying the more expensive Verbatim DVD-R which you need if you softmod your wii.
2.modchips are still undetectable by nintendo, where as softmodding the wii, nintendo will always fix the loop holes that softmodding uses to try to stop you modding your wii this way so you are always updating the softmodded software etc.
3.they are easy to fit if you buy a chip that is pre soldered to a wii-clip, all you do is open up the wii clip it in and the job is done.
4. Most mod chips support backup GameCube games from different regions too as the same with wii backups.
If you have a hardware chip in your wii you are still at risk of bricking your wii with a different region game, this is the same as if your wii was softmodded. You can just stick to your own region backup games or use the WiiBrickBlocker for safety.
Hope this helps :)
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littleduk
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7. April 2009 @ 07:32 |
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Thanks karlroby
Did you fit your own chip then?
I did look up some that said they were solderless and just clipped into the back of the drives ribbon and and it looked like it was realy easy.. But opening the wii and how compact it all seems makes that a little worrying for me in getting it all back together?
Not needing to keep updating with the latest softmods all the time sounds appealing..
How do you run backups with the mod chip? does it just run them like xbox or do you have a wad installer that runs them like My softmodded Backup player?
Thanks again
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 08:54 |
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Yeah i fitted my own modchip, there are two kids of solderless mod chips, one that simply clips on top of a chip under the dvd drive and another that connects to a ribbon cable but both very easy to fit. The wii is easy to take apart and there are pleanty of step by step guides on how to open your wii such as here:
http://www.wii-chip.co.uk/install%20instructions.html
With a mod chip you just play the backups like an original wii game through the disc channel, this is also the same way for the GameCube backups.
In the near future you may need to update the mod chip but that is quite simple as with some mod chips you can download the firmware update for the chip and put on to a DVD and update it like that, as with a modchip like the D2SUN V3 you have to buy a USB programmer specific for the chip that isnt really expensive and again with step by step instructions you can update the chip with ease.
I would recommend the D2SUN V3 mod chip if you are thinking of buying one as mine came with an on and off switch that i stuck on the side of the wii where if it makes you feel better you can turn the chip off when doing wii firmware updates, also it lets you know when there is a light on the on and off switch you know there is power goign to the chip and that it is installed correctly.
Also another feature of this chip is that it comes with the USB cable that can be fitted so it is accessable out of the case so you can connect the USB programmer to it in the future for the mod chip updates (this saves messing around opening up your wii again etc).
I f you live in the UK i purchased mine from here:
http://www.wii-chip.co.uk/index.html
This place might not be the cheapest but certainly reliable for getting your product.
Link to the D2SUN V3 modchip:
http://www.wii-chip.co.uk/osc/product_info.php?products_id=88
Link to the USB programmer thats used as an accessory:
http://www.wii-chip.co.uk/osc/product_info.php?products_id=96
Hope this helps :)
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littleduk
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7. April 2009 @ 09:29 |
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Thanks karlroby
Im thinking about it as a family member asked me to mod their wii after they seen it all running here the other day and I had my games running from hard drive she liked that..
But I dunt know whether to do it for her or if she should get a chip as I dont want to be running back and forth doing updates to the soft mod..
But after reading your last post it seems the chips need updates too?
I have heard of a chip that updates itself?? have you heard of this? It was just idle chat with someone but if this is the case perhaps this would be better?
Thanks again
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 09:44 |
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I havent heard of a chip that updates itself im not sure about that, there could well one out there on the market, my mod chip so far hasnt needed an update but the firmware updates that might be available in the future could simply be to add extra functionality to the chip.
I still think this is a better option than softmodding a wii, also the wii chip i suggested doesnt have to have the usb cable and the on off switch connected to the mod chip, these are more used as accessories. :)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. April 2009 @ 09:45
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littleduk
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7. April 2009 @ 09:48 |
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Hi,
Im reading on the link you posted to the Uk site just now and your chip seems the most expensive is it the best at the moment ?...there are so many do they all do the same thing?
Thanks again
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gameover9
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7. April 2009 @ 09:53 |
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Originally posted by littleduk:
Hi,
Im reading on the link you posted to the Uk site just now and your chip seems the most expensive is it the best at the moment ?...there are so many do they all do the same thing?
Thanks again
Most people seem to have the wiikey with the clip. Seems to be the most popular. Softmod for me all the way. It's free and easy, oh and there will always be a workaround all nintendos loop holes.
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 10:05 |
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Originally posted by gameover9:
Most people seem to have the wiikey with the clip. Seems to be the most popular. Softmod for me all the way. It's free and easy, oh and there will always be a workaround all nintendos loop holes.
How can you be so sure that there will always be a workaround?
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 10:08 |
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Originally posted by littleduk:
Hi,
Im reading on the link you posted to the Uk site just now and your chip seems the most expensive is it the best at the moment ?...there are so many do they all do the same thing?
Thanks again
Yes a lot of the mod chips do the same thing but you can look at it this way that you only get what you pay for, the D2SUN V3 seems good quality and with a product thats slightly more expensive then there will probably be better support as in being able to update it if need be in the future.
It seems at the moment that Nintendo are only tageting softmodded wii's with fixing their flaws in the system software that allows people to softmod their wii, eventually all these flaws could end and therefore the wii being not possible to softmod where as an actual modchip being completely undetectable from Nintendo
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 10:11 |
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I forgot to add that if you dont know what you are doing when softmodding a wii etc then it is possible to brick you wii therefore leaving it useless, where as with a mod chip it really is just plug and play :)
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gameover9
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7. April 2009 @ 10:30 |
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Originally posted by karlroby:
Originally posted by gameover9:
Most people seem to have the wiikey with the clip. Seems to be the most popular. Softmod for me all the way. It's free and easy, oh and there will always be a workaround all nintendos loop holes.
How can you be so sure that there will always be a workaround?
It's no different than a chip. How are you to be sure firmware updates will always be there? same thing.
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karlroby
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7. April 2009 @ 10:50 |
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Well its proving more difficult to stop people using mod chips as they have succeded in stopping people softmodding their wii's many times, ok there has been fixes to this to allow people to use softmod etc but Nintendo have never managed to stop people from using actual mod chips yet.
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