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Judge delivers guilty verdict in Pirate Bay trial
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article published on 17 April, 2009
A Stockholm court has found the four founders of The Pirate Bay BitTorrent site guilty of making 33 specific files accessible for illegal sharing through the site. The four were found guilty of assisting distribution of illegal content and were sentenced to a year in jail. They also must pay a fine of $3.6 million to 17 different music and media companies including Sony BMG, Universal, EMI, ... [ read the full article ]
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domie
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17. April 2009 @ 17:22 |
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Originally posted by badkrma:
yep, I agree, do something that people don't make money on and here comes hell...
TPB is one of the biggest internet sites in the world, 25 million users, widespread advertising on its pages - you think they don't make money ? LOL
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Tutuca
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17. April 2009 @ 18:23 |
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I say: BOICOTE THE MOVIES IN THEATERS! This will make the greedy moguls to think twice before doing trials like this. Wait for the DVD come out, wait another two months for them to be weekly, rent them cheap and enjoy the products. Their profits will disappear. No better punishment than this.
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ilikefree
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17. April 2009 @ 19:17 |
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Never pay for another movie again go to sites like mininova another torrent site.
shit doesnt just happen theres always an arsehole involved
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bomber991
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17. April 2009 @ 19:26 |
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Originally posted by Tutuca:
I say: BOICOTE THE MOVIES IN THEATERS! This will make the greedy moguls to think twice before doing trials like this. Wait for the DVD come out, wait another two months for them to be weekly, rent them cheap and enjoy the products. Their profits will disappear. No better punishment than this.
Better yet, just wake up and realize that a majority of the movies coming out of Hollywood is just the same crappy story over and over. Start watching independent films with real stories.
Instead of listening to RIAA music, start supporting your local bands. It's cheaper, the music is better, and the worst person to get their hands on your money is the owner of the bar where the band will be playing instead of a bunch of RIAA suits in Hollywood.
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ilikefree
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17. April 2009 @ 20:28 |
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Back in the '60's I had a Sony twin tape deck now Sony want to have people who provide links to copy things jailed.Is anyone going to have the people who make these things charged or is it just the smart ones that don't need to buy their toys that get charged.This is not about copy protection its about money. Buy their toy and you can copy their shit.Apple,Sony,and a heap of others are not worth looking at anyway.
shit doesnt just happen theres always an arsehole involved
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p13man
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17. April 2009 @ 20:29 |
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I'd like to publicly thank these four very brave people who didn't run away and cower in the face of threatened legal action but who defied unjust laws and did so on behalf of all internet users, computer users and software users everywhere.
The face of big business wears a self-serving grin today but it's not going to be there for long because, as each day passes, more and more people see through the lies and deceptions and see that this is nothing friendly about this face; that smirk is held in place by nothing more than plain old greed.
This prosecution was taken with a single purpose, to scare the owners of TPB and other similar sites and hope that their fear will rub-off on us - because it's us they are really after. If the reported 30% drop in internet activity today in Sweden is true, which I doubt, then they have succeeded, but only for today!
No singer or song writer, lyricist or recording engineer will get anything from today's result. Despite what they would have you believe, this action is not about copyright infringement, not about protecting the intellectual property of those who work in the music business, it's about control. Control over you and me, what we read, watch, listen to and play. They want us to pay - not to BUY - but to licence our entertainment. They know that if we were to stop and think for a minute, we'd realise their fraud for what it really is - making us pay for something but not actually giving it to us - where I come from, that is called stealing. But to distract us from feeling their hands picking our pockets, they shift the blame - to us. First they called us pirates, now they call us thieves ("Piracy is theft" - ring any bells?), next, who knows?
But it won't work if we aren't scared. If we follow the example of the Pirate Bay Four. There are people out there who have bought movies, music, software and books and who want to share their stuff with you and me. Remember, the big business corporations only win if we stop giving and receiving what we have bought and what is rightly ours - despite the laws passed by the puppets in authority saying otherwise. I like to share things - my parents told me that was a good thing - it does not make me a thief and I refuse to feel even a jot of guilt.
Don't let them scare you into thinking sharing is wrong. Go and upload or download something right now and enjoy the pleasure of giving. Hoist the Jolly Roger and wipe the smile off their lying faces.
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18. April 2009 @ 08:09 |
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Originally posted by p13man:
I'd like to publicly thank these four very brave people who didn't run away and cower in the face of threatened legal action but who defied unjust laws and did so on behalf of all internet users, computer users and software users everywhere.
The face of big business wears a self-serving grin today but it's not going to be there for long because, as each day passes, more and more people see through the lies and deceptions and see that this is nothing friendly about this face; that smirk is held in place by nothing more than plain old greed.
Don't let them scare you into thinking sharing is wrong. Go and upload or download something right now and enjoy the pleasure of giving. Hoist the Jolly Roger and wipe the smile off their lying faces.
Heart felt ~realy well said!~ In my opinion anyway
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zorb43
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21. April 2009 @ 15:17 |
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Originally posted by bc12:
I see the piratebay is still up can you download from it or is it unsafe.
Please don't forget what happened to the young man that downloaded that song ... and his family bless his soal ! Of course why anyone would want to hear that horrible tune is beyond my understanding ... Thanks ...
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Byron9
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22. April 2009 @ 20:23 |
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Originally posted by tefarko:
the TPB guys should do something safer than maintaning a tracker, like invading other people's countries to steal oil, torture innocent people in secret prisons or steal billions in Wall Street...
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Byron9
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22. April 2009 @ 20:47 |
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the TPB guys should do something safer than maintaning a tracker, like invading other people's countries to steal oil, torture innocent people in secret prisons or steal billions in Wall Street...
If you really want to make money open a centeral bank and loan every country in the world it's own money like what is being done in the world right now. The United States Federal Reserve Bank is a private organization. The interest being paid by the taxpayers on the trillions of dollers of debt being generated with such apparent calm is being paid to handful of private people . Google "Jekyll Island" and and see what I'm talking about.
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Byron9
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22. April 2009 @ 21:46 |
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Originally posted by p13man:
I'd like to publicly thank these four very brave people who didn't run away and cower in the face of threatened legal action but who defied unjust laws and did so on behalf of all internet users, computer users and software users everywhere.
The face of big business wears a self-serving grin today but it's not going to be there for long because, as each day passes, more and more people see through the lies and deceptions and see that this is nothing friendly about this face; that smirk is held in place by nothing more than plain old greed.
This prosecution was taken with a single purpose, to scare the owners of TPB and other similar sites and hope that their fear will rub-off on us - because it's us they are really after. If the reported 30% drop in internet activity today in Sweden is true, which I doubt, then they have succeeded, but only for today!
No singer or song writer, lyricist or recording engineer will get anything from today's result. Despite what they would have you believe, this action is not about copyright infringement, not about protecting the intellectual property of those who work in the music business, it's about control. Control over you and me, what we read, watch, listen to and play. They want us to pay - not to BUY - but to licence our entertainment. They know that if we were to stop and think for a minute, we'd realise their fraud for what it really is - making us pay for something but not actually giving it to us - where I come from, that is called stealing. But to distract us from feeling their hands picking our pockets, they shift the blame - to us. First they called us pirates, now they call us thieves ("Piracy is theft" - ring any bells?), next, who knows?
But it won't work if we aren't scared. If we follow the example of the Pirate Bay Four. There are people out there who have bought movies, music, software and books and who want to share their stuff with you and me. Remember, the big business corporations only win if we stop giving and receiving what we have bought and what is rightly ours - despite the laws passed by the puppets in authority saying otherwise. I like to share things - my parents told me that was a good thing - it does not make me a thief and I refuse to feel even a jot of guilt.
Don't let them scare you into thinking sharing is wrong. Go and upload or download something right now and enjoy the pleasure of giving. Hoist the Jolly Roger and wipe the smile off their lying faces.
I agree with what you say. However, it isn't just this ... it's everywhere.
The very money we use to pay for their licenses is being lent to us at interest that Income tax payers pay to private individuals... the owner of the Federal Reserve Bank in USA.
The G-20 is a group of countries that all have Central Banks.
Central Banking is Private Banking concerns loaning Various Countries their own money and charging them interest on the money that their country's Treasury prints.
Google ?Jekyll Island? then after reading that Google ?The U.C.C. Connection by Howard Freeman?. Then continue researching.
If you follow this research journey you will never see things the same again.
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23. April 2009 @ 01:59 |
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Originally posted by LordV:
To everyone that said that, if TPB goes down another will come up:
Yes they will, but it will be one of those lame ass shitty trackers like sumetorrent and all them and will never be as fully established with respectable torrents at TPB. For a public tracker, TPB is hands down the best for general torrents.
Hear hear.
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p13man
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23. April 2009 @ 14:11 |
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Google ?Jekyll Island? then after reading that Google ?The U.C.C. Connection by Howard Freeman?. Then continue researching.
If you follow this research journey you will never see things the same again.
I too recommend these sources and would like to add Ellen Brown's very readable, "Web of Debt - The Shocking Truth About Our Money System".
For any doubters of the facts - that the global economy benefits only those who have so much wealth that they could never spend it all in a thousand lifetimes, while millions must go hungry and are forced out of their homes in order to provide this useless abundance - examine the facts and discover the reality for yourselves. The evidence is there and it speaks plainly, but it won't come to you unbidden, you have to make the effort to seek, read and think for yourself.
The time for being passive and tolerant is really over. History shows us time and again that the way to achieve change is by collective action - massive public action is therefore the only thing that those who continue to enrich themselves on the graft of others are truly afraid of.
Now, more than at any other time in our history it is WE, THE PEOPLE - not our elected representatives - who are the only hope for our brothers and sisters, our children and grandchildren in our immediate family and throughout the world. The guys at TPB know that and have acted, now it's our turn.
Oh and @Zorb43, you write, "I see the piratebay is still up can you download from it or is it unsafe". You are the only person who can decide upon this but in my opinion it's a hell of a lot safer than eating a Big Mac or smoking a Marlboro.
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26. April 2009 @ 15:03 |
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Originally posted by JAYMES71:
They base their ridiculous fines on what they claim would have been sales for the movie/record company had the consumers not downloaded them illegally. Yeah right. If a car thief hadn't been able to steal the car, he would have went to the nearest car lot right away!
After they have ILLEGALLY convicted TPB, they could change the laws and imprison us further.
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varnull
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26. April 2009 @ 20:17 |
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27. April 2009 @ 16:19 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-ips-assigned-to-prosecution-lawyers-090426/
site down as of the time of this post.
Interesting Varnull, I wonder how that might affect a retrial.
Not down when I went there but a link to "Operation Baylout" (on another linked article) was inaccessible, hmmm...
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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