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Piracy is unstoppable, says ISP CEO

article published on 7 June, 2009

According to Carphone Warehouse and Talk Talk CEO Charles Dunstone, piracy is unstoppable and the media industry's call to have ISPs as watchdogs is "naive" at best. Instead, Dunstone believes a more reasonable solution is to educate users about the "benefits of respecting copyright" while also launching services that will allow consumers to get music and movies cheaper and easily. ... [ read the full article ]

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Morreale
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7. June 2009 @ 01:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The media industry is stupid. This proves it.
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7. June 2009 @ 01:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Morreale:
The media industry is stupid. This proves it.
Yea the movie and music industry is stuck in the 1800s
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7. June 2009 @ 01:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
education doesn't work, being tough doesn't work, cheaper price doesn't work, DRM doesn't work, rootkit doesn't work.

Some people are just too cheap to ever buy anything especially if they can get it for free. Your never convert them.

Putting people in jail is the only thing that works, but as soon as they are release, they go back to there old habits.
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7. June 2009 @ 01:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think if its for personal use they shouldnt bother them but
its for profit then they should punish them
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7. June 2009 @ 02:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally, some sense. Props to this guy, shame that TalkTalk sucks.

Originally posted by jony218:
education doesn't work, being tough doesn't work, cheaper price doesn't work, DRM doesn't work, rootkit doesn't work.

Some people are just too cheap to ever buy anything especially if they can get it for free. Your never convert them.

Putting people in jail is the only thing that works, but as soon as they are release, they go back to there old habits.

So... Putting people in jail doesn't work? But it's the only way that does work.
Reading posts like these is fun.
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7. June 2009 @ 03:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They need to stay out of our bedrooms and only break the door down if we are selling copy righted goods out the window...
Adamontar
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7. June 2009 @ 04:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only time piracy is going to stop is when buying software or movies you are going to get a better deal then the pirated versions.

Not just about having lower pricess in software and movies but also say you own a dvd movie and you damage the disc you should get a replacment from the store.

This is not going to happen. So pircay will never go away.

The truth is pirates provide a better deal.

Whats this that pircay hurts the economy or movie makers.

If piracy really was doing any damage you would not have actors making millions per movie, or movies having such high budgets.

Piracy is not doing anything. Maybe instead of having 100 million dollars they 98 million dollars.
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7. June 2009 @ 04:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Adamontar:
The only time piracy is going to stop is when buying software or movies you are going to get a better deal then the pirated versions.

Not just about having lower pricess in software and movies but also say you own a dvd movie and you damage the disc you should get a replacment from the store.

This is not going to happen. So pircay will never go away.

The truth is pirates provide a better deal.

Whats this that pircay hurts the economy or movie makers.

If piracy really was doing any damage you would not have actors making millions per movie, or movies having such high budgets.

Piracy is not doing anything. Maybe instead of having 100 million dollars they 98 million dollars.
Even if you do that you will still have it because there are those that will rail against the system no matter how perfect it is...
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7. June 2009 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jony

Putting people in jail is the only thing that works?
Did I read that right?
badkrma
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7. June 2009 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
making it cheaper to buy legit will bring people back. At least that is my 2 cents
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7. June 2009 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Only two would be able to stop it: God, and the Devil (AntiChrist).

And the RIAA is neither.
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7. June 2009 @ 12:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
Only two would be able to stop it: God, and the Devil (AntiChrist).

And the RIAA is neither.
Just wait till world governments let them police media infringement!
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ntense69
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7. June 2009 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they is always teh case of me buying a cd and or dvd and copying it for a friend but i suppose since im not making profit its still is illegal to copy a disk for a friend
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7. June 2009 @ 14:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ultimately, he's correct. If someone, anyone, wants to do something bad enough, they'll find away. And some of the minds on the scene are some of the most brilliant minds out there.
Bottom line, he's correct. Media companies need to provide a benefit from purchasing legit material. They need to provide incentive, and everybody, ISP's including, should press the issue of copyright education.
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7. June 2009 @ 15:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I personally download movies, if its good I will go see it in the cinema/buy in BD after but there is noway that I will waste money for no reason. Trailers are no go as they only highlight the best possible pasts of a movie.

I only download for me, I never back up to disk.
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7. June 2009 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fidge6679:
I personally download movies, if its good I will go see it in the cinema/buy in BD after but there is noway that I will waste money for no reason. Trailers are no go as they only highlight the best possible parts of a movie.

I only download for me, I never back up to disk.
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7. June 2009 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
They need to stay out of our bedrooms and only break the door down if we are selling copy righted goods out the window...
I hear you they need to keep there nose in there own buisness
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Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
They need to stay out of our bedrooms and only break the door down if we are selling copy righted goods out the window...
I hear you they need to keep there nose in there own buisness
Their noses are to busy following white lines.... >>
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Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
They need to stay out of our bedrooms and only break the door down if we are selling copy righted goods out the window...
I hear you they need to keep there nose in there own buisness
Their noses are to busy following white lines.... >>
Thats right they sniff so many drugs they dont know what is right and wrong up and down straight or crooked any ways you get my drift
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8. June 2009 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
killing is crime..one can get vene life imprisonment because of this..
still people are killing others even just for fun....
atleast piracy ll nt get u life imprisonment. :P
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8. June 2009 @ 07:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by platdream:
killing is crime..one can get vene life imprisonment because of this..
still people are killing others even just for fun....
atleast piracy ll nt get u life imprisonment. :P

Yet.............
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8. June 2009 @ 08:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Except for pricing, the media has been very smart. Please note... they are trying to force others to do the policing without any support from them. They LOVE to dump on the world! That is what the do best. They started with the artists, then the public, now industry. Forcing the ISPs to go on a fool's errand for them without any assistance from them is all part of their game plan. They don't care how much it costs as long as they don't pay for it, other than bribing the politicians. That they must do anyway to keep all the unjust laws inplace.

I forgot China!
They have just made a law to rid China from piracy lol!

All computers sold in China will have IP blockers. I guess they think persons would never remove the software. That is what happens when old farts make all the laws.

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Originally posted by Mez:
Except for pricing, the media has been very smart. Please note... they are trying to force others to do the policing without any support from them. They LOVE to dump on the world! That is what the do best. They started with the artists, then the public, now industry. Forcing the ISPs to go on a fool's errand for them without any assistance from them is all part of their game plan. They don't care how much it costs as long as they don't pay for it, other than bribing the politicians. That they must do anyway to keep all the unjust laws inplace.

I forgot China!
They have just made a law to rid China from piracy lol!

All computers sold in China will have IP blockers. I guess they think persons would never remove the software. That is what happens when old farts make all the laws.
I think its time fow a reformat and reinstallation of your operating system
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8. June 2009 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wonder what ways they're talking about that people can share their content, if the loons in government pass a French 3 strikes law in America.
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8. June 2009 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fidge6679, I missed your post on the first read.

Good for you!
 
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