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Piracy is unstoppable, says ISP CEO

article published on 7 June, 2009

According to Carphone Warehouse and Talk Talk CEO Charles Dunstone, piracy is unstoppable and the media industry's call to have ISPs as watchdogs is "naive" at best. Instead, Dunstone believes a more reasonable solution is to educate users about the "benefits of respecting copyright" while also launching services that will allow consumers to get music and movies cheaper and easily. ... [ read the full article ]

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EMIR
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8. June 2009 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they have 3 strike in usa but i go to public library and download all what i need haaaaaaahaaa
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8. June 2009 @ 21:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by windsong:
Only two would be able to stop it: God, and the Devil (AntiChrist).

And the RIAA is neither.
Just wait till world governments let them police media infringement!
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Copyright Concentration Camp???
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8. June 2009 @ 21:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by windsong:
Only two would be able to stop it: God, and the Devil (AntiChrist).

And the RIAA is neither.
Just wait till world governments let them police media infringement!
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Copyright Concentration Camp???
Ya and they churn out the content the media mafia sales...oh the irony!!!
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BTW everyone check out my long post here, its the 9th comment down, ot frist comment by me.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/06/08/e...s-piracy-drm-e3

I would post it here but its a wall of text!
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9. June 2009 @ 16:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I love the MPAA's way of thinking, we are losing money so why not make the isp's lose money by making them cut off paying customers. How long does the MPAA expect the ISP's will cooperate when they see how much money they will lose, by cutting off a good chunk of their customers?
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9. June 2009 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Speaking at TalkTalk's quarterly conference call, Dunstone added:

"If you try speed humps or disconnections for peer-to-peer, people will simply either disguise their traffic or share the content another way."

Does anyone know what he's talking about?
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9. June 2009 @ 17:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by H_Seldon:
Speaking at TalkTalk's quarterly conference call, Dunstone added:

"If you try speed humps or disconnections for peer-to-peer, people will simply either disguise their traffic or share the content another way."

Does anyone know what he's talking about?
If you try and disrupt the flow of torrents the "water" will still find a way to where its going.
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9. June 2009 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by llongtheD:
@jony

Putting people in jail is the only thing that works?
Did I read that right?
Then that guy has access to the library computer in the jail to upload his files!
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10. June 2009 @ 07:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well piracy is not the only thing that is loosing money , look at the actors , the singer and their agent who make fat cash just signing a deal for 5 mins , and then bleed ordinary people for high priced media content , no matter what happens pirates were , are , and will always be there , the only way you can fight is summon to what everybody wants cheaper media content , if you fight with fire then you will be fought equally
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11. June 2009 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As everyone with a brain knows.

I see Sarkosy's attempt to grovel to the entertainemnt industry has fallen flat on it's face too -

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The French judiciary has ridden to the rescue of the country's web users, striking down a controversial new law which would have allowed the state to cut off the internet connections of illegal filesharers for up to a year.

h**p://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/10/france-hadopi-law-filesharing

Just like anyone informed about French & EU law knew it would be.
Priceless.
What idiocy will they try next?
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11. June 2009 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably suing person with digital music or videos or pictures on their ipod. At least trying to turn the world into a police state. They hope that will intise people to buy more of their over priced wares.
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11. June 2009 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interestx the guardian link was interesting - I had hopes in the beginning for Sarkosy, but I see he's gone the way of every democratic dictator.
There was a story about 4oD, but then I found you have to be a resident of the U.K. to watch all this great television. I'm trying to figure out a way around this restriction. The U.S. has got a lot of free online product, but again you have to live in the U.S.
Only when we all figure out how to access this content from anywhere in the world will they drop their attempts to restrict us from getting it.
Same with downloading - only when we all know how to disguise our traffic will they allow us to get it without fear of their dogs and boots.
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12. June 2009 @ 07:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
H_Seldon, the trouble with disguising traffic is that if you use a large band width, the ISPs will investigate. That is what got the torrents in trouble. They were using over 70% of the worlds band width at their high point. It is like trying to hide a house in a vegitable patch.

They will be after news groups next.
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12. June 2009 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mez:
H_Seldon, the trouble with disguising traffic is that if you use a large band width, the ISPs will investigate. That is what got the torrents in trouble. They were using over 70% of the worlds band width at their high point. It is like trying to hide a house in a vegitable patch.
I saw that figure bandied around too, and it has to be bullcrap. The BBC iPlayer on its own is using many petabytes a month, and then you have all the content downloads from the likes of YouTube. Add to that four TRILLION spam emails a year, and all the legitimate downloads like iTunes, and it makes that figure of 70% look silly.
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12. June 2009 @ 21:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally someone with some common sense, hes right u cant stop it, and the more they push to get these ridiculous laws passed, the more ppl wanna do it. Especially when pc, electronics, etc are always getting produced everyday. More pcs = greater possiblity of piracy. Personally if I produced a cd and it was uploaded, I would feel honored, that ppl like the music
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12. June 2009 @ 23:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As much as I hate the whole darn copyrights issue, my ISP, MEDIACOM, dinged me for a total of FOUR DAYS OFFLINE after my son downloaded a copy of underworld to preview (he since bought the entire series). So you see, they do get the isp to do the work for them. Mediacom said that if they didn't ding us then they could be shut down by the FCC ??? And this is after they collected over $200. for our internet, phone and TV services (makes ATT look better all the time.)
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13. June 2009 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The films of Georges Méliès were pirated before 1900.
Basically, film pirating is as old as film.
It may be a crime, but no one has ever been able to stop it and never will.
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13. June 2009 @ 15:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The system has taught us to be money hungry and greedy, now that we are, they want us to be slaves from their establishment. No wonder why this world is in deep economical trouble, I don't think it's piracy, the bottom line problem relies only in a growing few group of greedy people that want to get richer at any cost. look at the Housing fiasco, at the Automotive 'con man' Industries, at the Communication Industries..( those peoples aren't in jail ), ect.

These problems are way much of impact for the world economics than for a few ones sharing or stealing media content. This is all materialistics.
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15. June 2009 @ 01:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is a new p2p app in town called BitBlender. It bakes both Uploading and Downloading totally anonymous. Its FREE to boot. Take that RIAA now nothing can stop it.

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Mez
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15. June 2009 @ 07:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vudoo, is BitBlender a 'simple p2p' darknet? Meaning it is a one step process like Lime Wire that is heavily encrypted and only responds to someone you know. They are good in that they are encrypted and because not many persons use them they are ignored by the cyber police. The huge down side is you need to know the person you share with. If you know them you can just use the mail.

I will need to check out your radio station.
 
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