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Next Nintendo console will be HD-compatible

article published on 8 June, 2009

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has said this week that he believes that although high definition video has no "significant meaning" to users of the extremely popular Wii, the next Nintendo console will certainly be HD-compatible. "If we have an opportunity to make a new console, it will probably support HD because it is now common throughout the world," Iwata says. "However, as far as ... [ read the full article ]

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10. June 2009 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Morreale:
Isn't a PS3 technically more powerful then a PC? Cause of the Cell processor or something?

I though I read that somewhere...
To many bottle necks and software optimization issues, this is why the 360 can go toe to toe and beat it half the time(visuals/textures).
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10. June 2009 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea but once everything is smooth and optimized and and game devs get off their lazy asses (EA), PS3 has far more potential then 360 right? Again people say that 360 is like already maxed out while PS3 is neck and neck with it and it still has a long way to go...
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Yea but once everything is smooth and optimized and and game devs get off their lazy asses (EA), PS3 has far more potential then 360 right? Again people say that 360 is like already maxed out while PS3 is neck and neck with it and it still has a long way to go...

More potential sure but the 360 could easily keep up with it if they went with a higher capacity disc, hell a model 2 360 with a 6X blu ray drive could really easily be on par with eh PS3 for the new 5 years, but with the space issues there's not much more they can really improve.

The PS3 has less potential than it had since alot of the hardware has been debuged, its still the most powerful(but under optimized) console but its also the most costly.. all in all PS3/360 tie while the WII runs circles around them......soemone needs to shotgun its knees....sirosly....with the non gamer support the WII is nothing....
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10. June 2009 @ 22:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yay the Wii's lousy graphics at 720p...

while the other consoles evolve to 4054805p the wii will STILL be using old technology.

jeeze.

nintendo has become the "lets wait and see company"
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Originally posted by DoomLight:
yay the Wii's lousy graphics at 720p...

while the other consoles evolve to 4054805p the wii will STILL be using old technology.

jeeze.

nintendo has become the "lets wait and see company"
Not really they took a chance on doing a minor upgrade from the GC which cost alot and while more powerful than the PS2 it did not do so well, now they have done alot with less power, this means the next console with be competitor with whatever current generation is at hand, and if the PS3 lasts until 014 or so they can come out with a equivalent cheaper system in 013-015.
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Yea but once everything is smooth and optimized and and game devs get off their lazy asses (EA), PS3 has far more potential then 360 right? Again people say that 360 is like already maxed out while PS3 is neck and neck with it and it still has a long way to go...

More potential sure but the 360 could easily keep up with it if they went with a higher capacity disc, hell a model 2 360 with a 6X blu ray drive could really easily be on par with eh PS3 for the new 5 years, but with the space issues there's not much more they can really improve.

The PS3 has less potential than it had since alot of the hardware has been debuged, its still the most powerful(but under optimized) console but its also the most costly.. all in all PS3/360 tie while the WII runs circles around them......soemone needs to shotgun its knees....sirosly....with the non gamer support the WII is nothing....
I don't think disk capacity is an issue for the 360. I could be wrong but multi-disc 360 games are not that common. Those that are multi-disc usually have excessive pre-rendered HD cutscene videos (ie. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Star Ocean: TLH, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant). The majority of the space in a PS3 game is taken up by those cutscenes as well. More cutscene video instead of regular cutscenes isn't going to make games better so I don't see how disk space is an issue. Blu-Ray is not necessary. In the "next gen", it probably will if developers focused on using that extra space for improving the games instead of just adding more fancy video cutscenes.

I don't understand why all the hate for the Wii just because it's not HD. Madworld and No More Heroes are in SD. Does that mean they aren't quality? Wii's problem is not that it's not HD. If you're really into graphics that much, get a gaming rig. The real problem is that the Wii has comparatively less quality games for it than the Xbox 360 and PS3. The Wii has so much potential with third-party developers who can't afford to splurge out HD-development budgets for their games. But those developers aren't putting in the effort to make quality games and that's the problem. The DS (and the PSP to a lesser extent) have thrived from low-budget third-party development but the devs just aren't giving the Wii a chance.

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Originally posted by Morreale:
Yea but once everything is smooth and optimized and and game devs get off their lazy asses (EA), PS3 has far more potential then 360 right? Again people say that 360 is like already maxed out while PS3 is neck and neck with it and it still has a long way to go...

More potential sure but the 360 could easily keep up with it if they went with a higher capacity disc, hell a model 2 360 with a 6X blu ray drive could really easily be on par with eh PS3 for the new 5 years, but with the space issues there's not much more they can really improve.

The PS3 has less potential than it had since alot of the hardware has been debuged, its still the most powerful(but under optimized) console but its also the most costly.. all in all PS3/360 tie while the WII runs circles around them......soemone needs to shotgun its knees....sirosly....with the non gamer support the WII is nothing....
I don't think disk capacity is an issue for the 360. I could be wrong but multi-disc 360 games are not that common. Those that are multi-disc usually have excessive pre-rendered HD cutscene videos (ie. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Star Ocean: TLH, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant). The majority of the space in a PS3 game is taken up by those cutscenes as well. More cutscene video instead of regular cutscenes isn't going to make games better so I don't see how disk space is an issue. Blu-Ray is not necessary. In the "next gen", it probably will if developers focused on using that extra space for improving the games instead of just adding more fancy video cutscenes.

I don't understand why all the hate for the Wii just because it's not HD. Madworld and No More Heroes are in SD. Does that mean they aren't quality? Wii's problem is not that it's not HD. If you're really into graphics that much, get a gaming rig. The real problem is that the Wii has comparatively less quality games for it than the Xbox 360 and PS3. The Wii has so much potential with third-party developers who can't afford to splurge out HD-development budgets for their games. But those developers aren't putting in the effort to make quality games and that's the problem. The DS (and the PSP to a lesser extent) have thrived from low-budget third-party development but the devs just aren't giving the Wii a chance.
One of the reasons games are not using more space is due to the 360 that's a pillar of game sales is stuck using last gen disc tech, which may be a good thing at the end of the day, during the start of this generation but now its more of a small hindrance that with other issues places more on the 360 to retire.

But what is really wrong with the 360 from an over all standpoint you can nit pick disc size and fail rate but it has vast consumer and developer support so what gives....nothing really its just old and old trends die miserable deaths in the sun when they should be lead into more shady places to die quietly.

All in all unless MS starts drinking again I doubt there will be a new Xbox for 3 or 4 more years.

Both the PS3 and 360 are monolithic beasts in their capabilities and support, though I would say its far more shallow than it needs be if you shine the light of day on the process that brings us half baked 'munchies' no one seems to really rail against... but alas such is all things mass consumer. The PS3 haz 2 faults price and some games just are not optimized well the network really is to most of XBL standards only without the inane whiny..oh no it has them as well...in stereo even ...LOL. But really you can nit pick at it and find 3 or 4 things against it same for the 360 and that brings me to the wii.

The wii is a trend starter and thus will be a magnet for hate, it also is not an 'uber mech' more hate, its cute more hate, the control system is both the best and worst for FP based games EVEN MORE HATE, I don't think the casual issue is such a problem not with all the woefully watered down and thoroughly casual hardcore trend.

I think between the lack of focus for normal games(real/casual aside) and precision interface are the 2 main focal points of the hate over graphics, I mean if the WII had a solid BOF 6,Mega man legends, Perfect dark Adventure FPS,more FP metroid,Another Donkey Kong game, A true Turok FPS.Revitalized Castlevina series, Just N64/Nintendo classics in 3D that had some toothy/meaty gameplay no one could complain but hard core fan boys who have sever love hate and abandonment issues with their WII...I mean Nintendo WII..........I mean Nintendo >>

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