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Hitachi and 1.6 security?
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RedMalice
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10. June 2009 @ 21:23 |
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Ok.. yea I know "when it's done".. but it's been over a month now with no update for us Hitachi 0079 owners. Normally I wouldn't care, but I do see in the 1.6 release notes about some new(?) security measures, mainly:
-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot!
-Strict drive speed compliance - 12x only for game discs!
-Support for SS V2!
Are any of these already in 1.51 so I don't have to worry about the banhammer, or are these 1.6 exclusive?
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10. June 2009 @ 21:47 |
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Originally posted by RedMalice:
Ok.. yea I know "when it's done".. but it's been over a month now with no update for us Hitachi 0079 owners. Normally I wouldn't care, but I do see in the 1.6 release notes about some new(?) security measures, mainly:
-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot!
-Strict drive speed compliance - 12x only for game discs!
-Support for SS V2!
Are any of these already in 1.51 so I don't have to worry about the banhammer, or are these 1.6 exclusive?
Features in bold are not part of ix1.51.
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RedMalice
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10. June 2009 @ 21:51 |
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jcalton88
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10. June 2009 @ 22:14 |
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I'm not 100% for sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but basically what that means is you cannot inject wave 2 info into a wave 3 game to get it to play with 1.6. If thats the problem, just don't do it and you have the same protection.
And the support to SS V2. Up to right now, I don't believe any games have implemented this so it shouldn't be a problem either. Just keep an eye out for that.
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10. June 2009 @ 22:43 |
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Originally posted by jcalton88:
I'm not 100% for sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but basically what that means is you cannot inject wave 2 info into a wave 3 game to get it to play with 1.6. If thats the problem, just don't do it and you have the same protection.
Correct, and also the ix1.6 security will prevent a bad backup from booting.
Originally posted by jcalton88:
And the support to SS V2. Up to right now, I don't believe any games have implemented this so it shouldn't be a problem either. Just keep an eye out for that.
SS v2 supports more timing samples when ripping a game.
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RedMalice
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10. June 2009 @ 23:00 |
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Ah good info to know. Yea I don't do any injecting of wave 2 info. Great.. I'll keep an eye out if any new releases mention SS V2 usage.
Originally posted by jcalton88:
I'm not 100% for sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but basically what that means is you cannot inject wave 2 info into a wave 3 game to get it to play with 1.6. If thats the problem, just don't do it and you have the same protection.
And the support to SS V2. Up to right now, I don't believe any games have implemented this so it shouldn't be a problem either. Just keep an eye out for that.
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gameover9
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11. June 2009 @ 10:57 |
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Buy a BenQ and spoof to that. Much better drive and you'll be up to date. They may never release updates for your drive. They suck!
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jpizzle
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11. June 2009 @ 13:47 |
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Originally posted by gameover9:
Buy a BenQ and spoof to that. Much better drive and you'll be up to date. They may never release updates for your drive. They suck!
HAY! my Hitachi has never given me any problems so I love it :P
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gameover9
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11. June 2009 @ 15:28 |
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Originally posted by jpizzle:
Originally posted by gameover9:
Buy a BenQ and spoof to that. Much better drive and you'll be up to date. They may never release updates for your drive. They suck!
HAY! my Hitachi has never given me any problems so I love it :P
LOL. Never heard anyone say they love a Hitachi. Did you have to do a POT cal on yours to read backups?
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jpizzle
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11. June 2009 @ 16:15 |
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nope never had ANY problem at all
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gameover9
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11. June 2009 @ 16:29 |
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Originally posted by jpizzle:
nope never had ANY problem at all
wow, you didn't have to adjust the POT?
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jpizzle
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11. June 2009 @ 16:31 |
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Originally posted by gameover9:
Originally posted by jpizzle:
nope never had ANY problem at all
wow, you didn't have to adjust the POT?
nope, but I install every game to the HDD before I play it so it doesn't have to load off the disc.
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jcalton88
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11. June 2009 @ 17:24 |
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well theres the reason why you've never had any trouble out of your Hitachi, you don't use it, lol.
Kind of like that car that was sitting in my front yard for a while, I never had any problems out of it so long as I didn't try to start it.
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RedMalice
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11. June 2009 @ 17:58 |
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I'd love to do that, but from the "instructions" I've found it seems pretty complicated. Any chance you know of a link to simple instructions, i.e. what type of BenQ to buy, how to convert from an existing flashed 1.51 Hitachi 79 to this BenQ, etc?
I did find this blurb, but does this basically turn my BenQ into a Hitachi drive in terms of what the xbox sees? Can I still then flash 1.6 Benq version over it and not "revert" it back to Benq ID?
"Take your orig.bin from your hitachi drive and place it in the 2x,5x,8x, or 12x folder in the BenQ iXtreme v1.4.1 firmware pack. Then double click the 'Make iXtreme firmware' command. Once firmtool runs successfully, the firmware it creates ix14.bin (or ix141.bin, not sure if they updated it with the revised pack) is ready to be flashed to your benq. It will have your Hitachi key and version strings and will be good to go.
Caster. "
Originally posted by gameover9:
Buy a BenQ and spoof to that. Much better drive and you'll be up to date. They may never release updates for your drive. They suck!
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jcalton88
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11. June 2009 @ 18:01 |
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depending where you live, you can get them from numerous sites. I bought one from modchipcentral.com. You can get them off of e-bay.
Read page 82 of the jungleflasher tut found on their website. Its at the bottom of the page. Simple as that.
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RedMalice
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11. June 2009 @ 18:20 |
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Thanks.. I actually found post #6 here to be helpful too
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=674503#
Is it right to use my original.bin stock hitachi firmware to spoof into the benq 1.6 firmware? I still have it (i.e. instead of pulling down the hitachi 1.51 firmware and using that as source)
Originally posted by jcalton88:
depending where you live, you can get them from numerous sites. I bought one from modchipcentral.com. You can get them off of e-bay.
Read page 82 of the jungleflasher tut found on their website. Its at the bottom of the page. Simple as that.
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jcalton88
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11. June 2009 @ 18:33 |
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I believe either works. If I remember correctly what it needs is the key, but both the 1.51 and the stock have all the information needed to identify the drive as a hitachi.
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11. June 2009 @ 21:14 |
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Question, the SS V2 support... Is that talking about a feature for the Console part of the Firmware, or the 008 ripping part of the Firmware. If it is for the ripping part, can a Kreon Drive do everything these 008 drives do?
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12. June 2009 @ 00:23 |
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Originally posted by cheez_cs:
Question, the SS V2 support... Is that talking about a feature for the Console part of the Firmware, or the 008 ripping part of the Firmware. If it is for the ripping part, can a Kreon Drive do everything these 008 drives do?
No, Kreon drives have stored responses. SSV2 is support for more response samples. Only a 0800 drive gives a true challenge response.
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12. June 2009 @ 00:35 |
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So the SS V2 is only a feature for the 008 part of the firmware?
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12. June 2009 @ 00:41 |
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Originally posted by cheez_cs:
So the SS V2 is only a feature for the 008 part of the firmware?
Yes.
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12. June 2009 @ 02:01 |
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Thanks for the replies. I am a bit lazy when it comes to opening my 360, and I have opened it so much that my Eject button is becoming sticky. I am on iXtreme 1.51 with a Lite-On drive, and I do plan on updating to 1.6 when I get the spare time. I was just making sure it is okay to stay on 1.51 for the time being.
Thanks again for the quick replies.
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12. June 2009 @ 05:00 |
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Sorry, this will be last question.
When people say that iXtreme 1.6 has more security, does that mean it makes it more safe to play on XBOX Live?
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It will not boot the game if it is not 100% stealth patched, example.
iXtreme 1.51 will boot a disc it the Stealth passes in ABGX360, but the Verification fails. iXtreme 1.6 will only boot the game if EVERYTHING passes, example... The Stealth passes, but the Verification fails, 1.6 will not boot it.
I check my games with XBOX Backup Creator and ABGX360 v1.0.1, sometime twice to make sure they are 100% stealth. So if the second reason I listed is true, then I should be okay?
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to fill up the 360 section of my brain so I can dump it on somebody else if they need help.
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12. June 2009 @ 16:08 |
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iXtreme 1.6 has strict stealth checking. Meaning if it doesn't pass the CRC check, it won't boot the game. ix1.51 does not have that for the video partition. So, you could potentially boot a bad backup. But if you are using ABGX, you won't ever boot a bad backup because you would of never burned it in the first place.
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RedMalice
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12. June 2009 @ 17:20 |
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Thanks all.. Since I always check abgx and only burn fully passed backups (or autofixed ones), then I don't need to worry about upgrading my hitachi. Or swapping for a benq.. phew.. less to worry about :)
Originally posted by leerage:
iXtreme 1.6 has strict stealth checking. Meaning if it doesn't pass the CRC check, it won't boot the game. ix1.51 does not have that for the video partition. So, you could potentially boot a bad backup. But if you are using ABGX, you won't ever boot a bad backup because you would of never burned it in the first place.
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