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11. June 2009 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just thought I'd throw this out to the repair guys. I have done several xclamps some with luck and others no luck (0102 error!)

My question is, are you guys still using the nylon washers? I have read to stop using those and simply use all steal, problem is I've sen it warp the board depending on how many washers are used. Here's my method:

I'll put 2 on bottom and 1 on top and test
Then 1 on bottom and 2 on top and test
and then 1 on bottom and 1 on top and test

What do you guys do?
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AllTimeLo
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11. June 2009 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have done a few repairs myself and you NEED to use nylon washers.

You can't have the metal washers touching the motherboard. That's bad, lol.

Here's the kit I buy


Check out his other listings. It will probably help you and he gives you a free 45 page .pdf repair guide posted on some of his auctions (look through some and read the descriptions, there will be a link to it)

Hope this helped!

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gameover9
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11. June 2009 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's not too bad since it comes with the paste and cleaner and tools. Does he have any cheaper if you don't need the paste?
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11. June 2009 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by AllTimeLo:
I have done a few repairs myself and you NEED to use nylon washers.

You can't have the metal washers touching the motherboard. That's bad, lol.

I just shake my head everytime I see a comment like this. Metal washers touching the mobo is bad? Let me ask this... how many nylon washers, posts, clamps, etc. does MS use?
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11. June 2009 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by AllTimeLo:
I have done a few repairs myself and you NEED to use nylon washers.

You can't have the metal washers touching the motherboard. That's bad, lol.

I just shake my head everytime I see a comment like this. Metal washers touching the mobo is bad? Let me ask this... how many nylon washers, posts, clamps, etc. does MS use?
That's kind of what I was thinking. Every motherboard I have bought have never had nylon anythign attaching to the case. Heck, your pc's board touches metal stems which are attached to the case! I would think nylon washers will warp over time.
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11. June 2009 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep. I've seen plenty of them mashed and split. You just can't get even pressure using nylon washers. It's just too easy to over torque one side and under torque the other. I've seen some which looked just like when you put a penny on the railroad tracks.

It's not that using nylon washers is bad, it's that some people doing the mod just don't understand about evenly torqued or over torqued.

But people saying you have to use nylon... that's just wrong.

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11. June 2009 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Yep. I've seen plenty of them mashed and split. You just can't get even pressure using nylon washers. It's just too easy to over torque one side and under torque the other. I've seen some which looked just like when you put a penny on the railroad tracks.

It's not that using nylon washers is bad, it's that some people doing the mod just don't understand about evenly torqued or over torqued.

But people saying you have to use nylon... that's just wrong.
That's why you end up getting my boxes, due to previous morons who did the xclamp wrong...inluding myself. Don't do that damn penny trick!!
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