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Consumers still not sold on Blu-ray
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 25 June, 2009
The results of a new survey by Harris Interactive show that despite winning the hi-def format war Blu-ray isn't showing any real signs it will become a mainstream success. In fact they indicate more people own standalone HD DVD players (11%) than Blu-ray players (7%).
When you factor in PS3 game consoles and the Xbox 360 add on HD DVD drive the numbers shift to favor Blu-ray, but it's ... [ read the full article ]
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pphoenix
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25. June 2009 @ 11:44 |
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who actually cares about blu-ray other than hard core home theatre enthusiasts & the corporations who want to make millions from the inflated prices of the equipment
you have to spend thousands to upgrade all your current equipment because of the DRM, when you can simply put an up-scaled DVD onto your 40" LCD & it looks great, not as good as Blu-Ray but why spend your hard earned cash on the minimal benefit that blu-ray brings?
queue the retort full of ferrari/ford analogy's, or you must still use videos!
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5fdpfan
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25. June 2009 @ 11:49 |
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Well speaking for myself, I have well over a hundred or so DVD's in my collection(certainly not as many as what others have but I'm rather picky about the movies and shows I buy)and just have no desire to pay what I'd have to pay in order to replace them all, just to have a better looking picture. Perhaps this is the case with oters, don't know though. A lot of people, I suspect just can't notice or don't care enough about the difference in picture quality to invest in Dlu-ray, while others simply can't afford to. Given enough time, I'm guessing Blu-ray will eventually gain favor with the public. It just will not happen as quickly as the studios and disca manufacturers would like.
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progrockt
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25. June 2009 @ 11:55 |
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I think it just boils down to the average customer just doesn't care, and if they DID take the plunge and buy an HD monitor, they'd be happy with an upscaling player. Just look at how many people bought converter boxes during the digital TV switchover instead of buying brand new HD TV sets?
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25. June 2009 @ 11:56 |
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not surpised.
especially when you buy a bluray disk and your player wont play it or takes ages to load.
then you need to wait for a firmware update to issued.
this far too much hassle for most people espically when you consider you get none of this crap with dvds
.once they sort these issues it be more popular.
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pcesurfer
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25. June 2009 @ 12:02 |
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As far as sales go, when the economy comes out of the shit storm it is in, I think people will be more inclined to buy the Hdtv's and the Blu-ray players. I have a PS3 and I use it for blu-ray, it is a beautiful picture but I have to agree not worth a $300.00 player atm. I will stick to Dvd for a bit and with no sales the equip. price will drop like a rock, then I will buy the standalone and start buying BD movies.
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25. June 2009 @ 12:21 |
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Movie prices are too high. And how much is the real price for the average consumer? Seems like too much inconsistency IMO. Retail for Quantam of Solace - $39.99 - marked down to $29.99 at Best Buy - marked down to $19.99 on Amazon and sold for used at about $15.00. I do all of my entertainment shopping online, but always look around when I'm in B&M stores. The prices in the isle are high enough to turn anyones head away. I shop around for the best deals, but people like my parents only do that for food and clothing.
My mom brought over a movie for my kids to watch. Threw it in the PS3 to play on my 46" plasma. It was unwatchable to me, but my Mom kept saying how she was amazed at the picture quality. Boggled my mind. I threw in a blu ray for her and she was impressed by the clarity, but in the end she thought that the upscaled DVD was good enough. So I totally understand the argument people make about upscaled being good enough for most. I can't even talk about resolution to her. She looks at me like I have 3 heads. And then gets concerned that I'm spending too much money and being too materialistic. Any talk of image quality and new technology is met with "is it a necessity?"
On another note, my parents bought a new TV 10 years ago. In their world, you don't buy new TV's after 10 years. I grew up watching a TV that they ended up retiring after 25 years. For the most part, their generation is pretty much the same from what I've seen.
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25. June 2009 @ 13:21 |
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DVD has been around for quite a while now everyone's familiar with it,it's no different to the PS2 being the most popular console,with such a large user base it would be an up hill battle regardless if it was hd-dvd or bluray attempting to get a foot hold,if bluray is going to be in every home it'll need at minimum another 5-6 years if it's lucky,actually make that 10 years,going to any video hire store the shelves bulge with std dvd's the blueray section is pretty much non existant that goes for the junk mail in the letterbox their are very few blueray titles for sale & how long has it been now,most imo would only replace their std dvd players when they break down & that takes time which i doubt blueray has before the next gen arrive
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korgoth3
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25. June 2009 @ 14:24 |
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bluray is cool but it will never sell as much as the dvd, people are moving onto better things. streaming and htpc's. only reason i will have bluray eventually is because ill buy a ps3. if they offered a ps3 without blu ray, id get that one instead.
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25. June 2009 @ 14:41 |
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While I think there is a large, educated userbase, I think the size of the "unwashed masses" is much, much larger.
These are the people who don't even know that a BluRay is different than a DVD.
They only know this: BR is more expensive and it won't play in their player.
For that reason, BR will only become as ubiquotus as DVD by reducing the number of movies available on DVD. When Joe Six-pack can only buy "Talladega Nights 4, Ricky Bobby hits the wall" on BR, THEN he'll start wondering if it's time to upgrade that "disk playing thing" that sits on top of his TV.
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pphoenix
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25. June 2009 @ 14:53 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Engadget ~ Evidently it's still cool to hate on Blu-ray: Harris Poll spin and remember - this is only for the US....
you do realise that Engadget are sony whores, and are told what to write don't you?
just as this report shows, most people do not care about blu-ray i'm afraid, i can't state the rest of the globe but this is how it is in the UK & as previously stated & i can confirm, most people coming into Solihull's branch Comet don't even want to change their television as ppl think their current widescreen is more than adequate, choosing the freeview box that costs as little as £10 over a complete hardware upgrade!
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clethal
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25. June 2009 @ 14:59 |
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First of all technology will always grow rather we like it or not pushing the limits of better picture quality and sound starting with VHS beta, laser disc dvd and now blu ray this shouldnt come as a shock to us knowing something else will be knocking on home theatres door....lol
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nervuli
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25. June 2009 @ 15:17 |
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After DVD it's all about Netflix and downloading/streaming from the internet.
Harvesting large amount of discs to your shelves are so yesterday.
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clethal
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25. June 2009 @ 15:23 |
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Originally posted by nervuli:
After DVD it's all about Netflix and downloading/streaming from the internet.
Harvesting large amount of discs to your shelves are so yesterday.
That I agree even while technology is getting better people are finding alot more options too.
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pirkster
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25. June 2009 @ 16:21 |
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IguanaC64
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25. June 2009 @ 16:22 |
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I agree...media center is the way to go. Kids don't scratch up your disks and people don't "borrow" your movies (never to be seen ever again). I still want my VHS copy of Naked Lunch back, Andy Mullins!
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xnonsuchx
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25. June 2009 @ 16:55 |
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Yada...yada...yada... Still mostly the same drivel as when DVD started. It took several years for prices to come down and people to move up back then too.
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progrockt
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25. June 2009 @ 17:03 |
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That was from VHS though, I don't think the general public will notice (or even care) about the "subtle" benefits of Blu Ray.
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25. June 2009 @ 17:27 |
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Rapid innovation is the culprit. HD & BLU-RAY arrived on the market way ahead of the buying publics expectations. The same for plasma and lcd TV. There was no actual need for it. Like someone said its really for the enthusiast. If the TV manufactures didn't forCE peoples hands to buy, doing this by making traditional monitor style TV's unavailable thus obselete. If not for this the flat screen evolution would still be hurting (in the tank) financially. I own BLU-RAY disc and player but who else owns one? Well he or she still lives a few miles away. Penetration for this technology is still low. I think the only way to profit is to halt the sales of standard DVD's. And nose dive the prices of current Blu-Ray disc and players.....though this is not likely.;0
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dragnandy
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25. June 2009 @ 17:43 |
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i think the main reason people have not switched to blu-ray is simply because you need to spend a good $500-2000 on an HDTV. atleast that is the reason i still havent switched to blu-ray.
for me, i am satisfied with standard definition television, unless its gaming, then i would go with HDTV. i have a pc instead of a console, so im good there.
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5fdpfan
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25. June 2009 @ 17:49 |
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Quote:
After DVD it's all about Netflix and downloading/streaming from the internet.
Only if movie studios ligthen up a bit and allow Netflix and others like them to build large libraries of movies and tv shows. Beyond that, we also need more high-speed internet users.
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25. June 2009 @ 17:59 |
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If I had a job with my college degree and had money I would have this stuff.
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25. June 2009 @ 18:00 |
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It all boils down to cost versus perceived benefits. It was a quantum leap forward in technology between DVD and VHS/Beta, (no rewinding, lots of cool features, much better picture and sound, closed captioning, etc.) unfortunately the gap between DVD and BlueRay/HD is not as great as SOme companiNY wants you to believe. VHS will play on the same TV as DVD, but to realize the difference between DVD and BluRay one needs an HDTV. So, buy a new player and a new TV to see marginally better picture quality.I'm sticking with DVD for now until the mega tetrabyte drive comes out and all my movies are in my media computer and not lined up on a bookshelf or crate.
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bomber991
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25. June 2009 @ 19:03 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
It all boils down to cost versus perceived benefits. It was a quantum leap forward in technology between DVD and VHS/Beta, (no rewinding, lots of cool features, much better picture and sound, closed captioning, etc.) unfortunately the gap between DVD and BlueRay/HD is not as great as SOme companiNY wants you to believe. VHS will play on the same TV as DVD, but to realize the difference between DVD and BluRay one needs an HDTV. So, buy a new player and a new TV to see marginally better picture quality.I'm sticking with DVD for now until the mega tetrabyte drive comes out and all my movies are in my media computer and not lined up on a bookshelf or crate.
Yes I was going to say that people have to purchase a bluray player, and then they have to get bluray movies. The players need to be less than $100, and the bluray movies need to cost the same as dvd films. It's just plain stupid to expect someone to pay $5 to $10 more for the high definition bluray version of a movie.
And I forgot but other have pointed out, that you also need an HDTV to actually see a difference with bluray vs dvd.
It's just all stupid really. It really is just a marginal upgrade, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone except for people that love watching movies at home on a near-daily basis. But those people probably already have all the blu-ray stuff by now anyway.
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25. June 2009 @ 19:26 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
It all boils down to cost versus perceived benefits. It was a quantum leap forward in technology between DVD and VHS/Beta, (no rewinding, lots of cool features, much better picture and sound, closed captioning, etc.) unfortunately the gap between DVD and BlueRay/HD is not as great as SOme companiNY wants you to believe. VHS will play on the same TV as DVD, but to realize the difference between DVD and BluRay one needs an HDTV. So, buy a new player and a new TV to see marginally better picture quality.I'm sticking with DVD for now until the mega tetrabyte drive comes out and all my movies are in my media computer and not lined up on a bookshelf or crate.
1) SONY is not the only company in the BD association, funny how you call only a specific one out though for some reason...
2) "The gap between DVD and BlueRay/HD is not as great" ~ Exhibit A & B + some direct ones
DVD - BD
DVD - BD
DVD & BD
If those don't show a "gap" then there is no point of me saying anything further...
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