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Xbox 360 and PS3 price cuts coming this fall
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article published on 27 June, 2009
According to a "mole" speaking to Arstechnica, both Sony and Microsoft will introduce new hardware packages this fall, in addition to price cuts.
This is all considered rumor for the time being, but the "mole" has broken a lot of stories in the past that have eventually been absolutely correct so keep that in mind.
From Sony's end, across the board price cuts are coming as well as ... [ read the full article ]
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28. June 2009 @ 01:21 |
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the only question now is what took so dame long.
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Morreale
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28. June 2009 @ 02:22 |
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A 160GB PS3 Slim for $300 sounds pretty good to me... I wouldn't sell my 60GB for it but it does sound like a fair deal for new buyers in the market and I think it will compete well against the 360. If they throw in a game like MGS4 or any of the big titles along with the price cut, bigger HDD and smaller console it could be great.
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28. June 2009 @ 06:46 |
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If this is true (which I doubt) xbox's sales are going to annihilate ps sale (assuming consoles retain their current popularity, and if the ps3 slim isn't that great).
I think that sony will sell the 160gb at a discounted price, but sell the ps3 slim at the current price for a regular ps3.
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28. June 2009 @ 07:43 |
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I hope this isn't too little too late.
I'm an early adopter, which in this case (can't believe the way Sony has butchered the poor PS3...) is a good thing as I can still play PS2 games on my HDTV with the same HDMI wire (W00t!), as for the harddrive... that only helps with people who don't already own a PS3 - if you own a 60GB or an 80GB you can upgrade the device yourself by buying a laptop harddrive (SATA) and following the installation instructions on Sony's site - This doesn't even void the warranty! I threw a 320GB in mine, sure a 500GB would work too...
A slimmer version would be nice though... and a price cut will help adoption - I really hope they cut the price by 100 and not 50 like they most likely will... They need to compete with MS - even if MS does have a lot of little nickel and dime costs, there are unfortunately more games for it... I fell regret sometimes at owning my PS3- but I refuse to buy a 360... I hope I don't end up getting it because PS3 fails @_@;
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28. June 2009 @ 09:48 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
If this is true (which I doubt) xbox's sales are going to annihilate ps sale (assuming consoles retain their current popularity, and if the ps3 slim isn't that great).
I think that sony will sell the 160gb at a discounted price, but sell the ps3 slim at the current price for a regular ps3.
I highly doubt that. On average (World Wide) the 360 is currently half the price of the PS3 yet can't manage to outsell it and if it does it's only by a few thousand.
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28. June 2009 @ 11:43 |
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I don't know how the 360 is gonna annihilate PS3 sales because all they are doing is getting rid of the Pro packages and replacing it with the Elite for the same price (or a console with the same HDD anyways) which isn't really huge...
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28. June 2009 @ 13:45 |
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28. June 2009 @ 16:49 |
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I kinda felt this one coming. Not the lowering on price for a PS3 but the eventual countermove of lowering of the price of the Xbox360 which would at least help to neutralize any ground that Sony was planning to make in sales. That is at least for those of us who think the PS3 is everpriced, and that is group of people who favor the majority more than the minority. Really i dont see any reason to buy a PS3 over the xbox360 gamer wise just depends on your exclusive gaming selection. Both consoles have a good lineup of games by now but you still spend a lot more on a PS3 in the long run and the games look 99.9% the same on both consoles so why pay more. In the end of this gaming era the consoles will finish in the same exact order as sales are at this current time. PS3 sales will spark at first but eventually level off and in the end it will be sales like
1. Wii
2. Xbox360
3. PS3
I myself already have a Wii and xbox360 and will be adding a PS3 after the price drop. PS3 has a lot of exclusives i am dying to play.
Uncharted and TBR..Uncharted 2, Resistance 1&2, MGS, Little bigplanet, etc....
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28. June 2009 @ 20:38 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
If this is true (which I doubt) xbox's sales are going to annihilate ps sale (assuming consoles retain their current popularity, and if the ps3 slim isn't that great).
I think that sony will sell the 160gb at a discounted price, but sell the ps3 slim at the current price for a regular ps3.
I highly doubt that. On average (World Wide) the 360 is currently half the price of the PS3 yet can't manage to outsell it and if it does it's only by a few thousand.
Seriously, where do you get your numbers from?
Check Wikipedia or VG Charts, the Xbox 360 has 30.87 million systems sold worldwide and the PS3 has 22.86 million systems sold worldwide. That's not a difference of a few thousands (with an "S").
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28. June 2009 @ 23:30 |
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Ugh he didn't mean total sales, please actually read his post :/
He means that basically all around the world, PS3 is outselling 360. In Japan it owns, in Europe most of the time it outsells and in the 360 it's the opposite situation of Japan but it is picking up.
I mean, I remember when 360 had a leas of like 12 million consoles, now it only has 8. By the end of this generation of consoles if it doesn't pass it'll be pretty close...
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29. June 2009 @ 00:46 |
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I re-read his post, he didn't mention anything except for worldwide and worldwide, the Xbox 360 is outselling by 8 million..
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29. June 2009 @ 01:02 |
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Outselling means that one thing is selling more then another, regardless of how many are already sold or total sales.
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29. June 2009 @ 01:09 |
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Yeah but he didn't mention "this month" or "last year" or "this year" or "total sales" so when he said that, it made no sense to me.
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29. June 2009 @ 01:55 |
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so long as they cut the price by $100 and keep a steady line-up of games it can catch up too or overturn the 360.
the reason is simple, the 360 is saturated in almost all regions save for japan. (>.> Japanese always get all the goody's anyway).
the PS3 has a less saturated area all round and may very well take the spot from Xbox.
When this above statement happens i'll have you know i have no experience in the field of marketing data
maybe i should make a few million with my own company call it DXR's Marketing DATA Analysis.
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29. June 2009 @ 02:43 |
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xbox in canada was just recently sold for 150 at walmart. that ofcourse is the arcade. Be nice to see if the arcade goes down to that price
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29. June 2009 @ 07:47 |
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You can't use VGChartz because XBox 360 is nearly Last gen, it was out longer, it's got a much higher chance to have sold more seeing it has been in the market longer...Seriously, so easy to see that, lol
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29. June 2009 @ 08:19 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Ugh he didn't mean total sales, please actually read his post :/
He means that basically all around the world, PS3 is outselling 360. In Japan it owns, in Europe most of the time it outsells and in the 360 it's the opposite situation of Japan but it is picking up.
Thank You Morreale. I knew I should have put in year over year but thought by inferring "current" that it would suffice...looks like it didn't, so my apologies for the little confusion it may have implied/caused. But either way the supposed 7-8 Million difference is attributed to the head start MS had and I say supposed because although yes they did sell that amount it doesn't mean they are all working, usable consoles out in peoples hands.
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29. June 2009 @ 12:07 |
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Yea my friend had 2 just after the first year because 1 broke and it wasn't covered then, he was pissed and just bought a new one :P
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29. June 2009 @ 12:14 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Ugh he didn't mean total sales, please actually read his post :/
He means that basically all around the world, PS3 is outselling 360. In Japan it owns, in Europe most of the time it outsells and in the 360 it's the opposite situation of Japan but it is picking up.
Thank You Morreale. I knew I should have put in year over year but thought by inferring "current" that it would suffice...looks like it didn't, so my apologies for the little confusion it may have implied/caused. But either way the supposed 7-8 Million difference is attributed to the head start MS had and I say supposed because although yes they did sell that amount it doesn't mean they are all working, usable consoles out in peoples hands.
It's not 7-8 million, it's 8.01 million.
Also, the people who got the RROD, like myself, got the Xbox 360 replaced for free. Also, for those who got the RROD E74 error after their 1 year warranty, Microsoft extended it to 3 years. Microsoft made a stupid mistake but they fixed it in anyway they can.
When mine broke, I told Microsoft that I had guests at my house and that we planned on playing with the Xbox 360 and that it would suck if it was gone for a week. To say sorry, they sent me 1 month of Xbox Live Gold and a free game (mine was Project Gotham Racing 4).
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29. June 2009 @ 12:17 |
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Really i dont see any reason to buy a PS3 over the xbox360 gamer wise just depends on your exclusive gaming selection. Both consoles have a good lineup of games by now but you still spend a lot more on a PS3 in the long run and the games look 99.9% the same on both consoles so why pay more.
Contrary to popular belief, there are people that realize why the price is higher. It's because it has a blu ray player. Some of those people may shrug it off and not care, but others may see the the appeal of incorporating a HD movie player and game console into a single device. And how is the PS3 more expensive in the end? Are you comparing apples to apples? I hope you are not comparing the 360 arcade to the top tier PS3. Compare the Elite with the most expensive PS3, and whether you love it or hate it, you still have something more with the PS3 and you are not paying a subscription fee. In the end, you're taking a pretty big hit to your wallet for both consoles when you factor in peripherels that don't come with the console. How much you pay depends on your individual gaming habits.
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29. June 2009 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by BTFan:
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Ugh he didn't mean total sales, please actually read his post :/
He means that basically all around the world, PS3 is outselling 360. In Japan it owns, in Europe most of the time it outsells and in the 360 it's the opposite situation of Japan but it is picking up.
Thank You Morreale. I knew I should have put in year over year but thought by inferring "current" that it would suffice...looks like it didn't, so my apologies for the little confusion it may have implied/caused. But either way the supposed 7-8 Million difference is attributed to the head start MS had and I say supposed because although yes they did sell that amount it doesn't mean they are all working, usable consoles out in peoples hands.
It's not 7-8 million, it's 8.01 million.
Also, the people who got the RROD, like myself, got the Xbox 360 replaced for free. Also, for those who got the RROD E74 error after their 1 year warranty, Microsoft extended it to 3 years. Microsoft made a stupid mistake but they fixed it in anyway they can.
When mine broke, I told Microsoft that I had guests at my house and that we planned on playing with the Xbox 360 and that it would suck if it was gone for a week. To say sorry, they sent me 1 month of Xbox Live Gold and a free game (mine was Project Gotham Racing 4).
And for someone like me who has a launch day 360 that has failed 4 times and not 1 EVER being covered plus being out past the 3 year "warranty" MS doesn't amount to anything when it comes to hardware to me (much like their software unsurprisingly). But the fact is the supposed "8 Million" lead isn't indicative of REALITY...
And just to re-iterate ~ when you have the PS3 @ $400 dollars in a recession yet it still manages to keep the difference between itself and the lower priced Xbox 360 (@ $200) at a minimum World Wide year over year you have to question which one is really doing better than the other (outside of the damned Wii)
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29. June 2009 @ 15:31 |
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The Wii isn't even in the same class, anyway...but yeah, that's a full year Alone...No competition outside of the Ps2 at the time
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29. June 2009 @ 20:15 |
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Really i dont see any reason to buy a PS3 over the xbox360 gamer wise just depends on your exclusive gaming selection. Both consoles have a good lineup of games by now but you still spend a lot more on a PS3 in the long run and the games look 99.9% the same on both consoles so why pay more.
Contrary to popular belief, there are people that realize why the price is higher. It's because it has a blu ray player. Some of those people may shrug it off and not care, but others may see the the appeal of incorporating a HD movie player and game console into a single device. And how is the PS3 more expensive in the end? Are you comparing apples to apples? I hope you are not comparing the 360 arcade to the top tier PS3. Compare the Elite with the most expensive PS3, and whether you love it or hate it, you still have something more with the PS3 and you are not paying a subscription fee. In the end, you're taking a pretty big hit to your wallet for both consoles when you factor in peripherels that don't come with the console. How much you pay depends on your individual gaming habits.
To use blu-ray properly you need a several thousand dollar 1080p full hd tv, not many people have those. Think of all the high selling
upcoming and released games the 360 has and the ps3 doesn't: halo 1, halo 2, halo 3, halo wars, left 4 dead, fable, fable 2, gears of war 1, gears of war 2, halo 3 odst, left 4 dead 2.
Yes xbox live may cost $40 for 12 months, but that money is spent on updating xbox live. PSN is simply no competition for xbox live.
I own a ps3, xbox 360 and a wii... the 360 is by far the better console.
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29. June 2009 @ 20:44 |
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Really i dont see any reason to buy a PS3 over the xbox360 gamer wise just depends on your exclusive gaming selection. Both consoles have a good lineup of games by now but you still spend a lot more on a PS3 in the long run and the games look 99.9% the same on both consoles so why pay more.
Contrary to popular belief, there are people that realize why the price is higher. It's because it has a blu ray player. Some of those people may shrug it off and not care, but others may see the the appeal of incorporating a HD movie player and game console into a single device. And how is the PS3 more expensive in the end? Are you comparing apples to apples? I hope you are not comparing the 360 arcade to the top tier PS3. Compare the Elite with the most expensive PS3, and whether you love it or hate it, you still have something more with the PS3 and you are not paying a subscription fee. In the end, you're taking a pretty big hit to your wallet for both consoles when you factor in peripherels that don't come with the console. How much you pay depends on your individual gaming habits.
To use blu-ray properly you need a several thousand dollar 1080p full hd tv, not many people have those. Think of all the high selling
upcoming and released games the 360 has and the ps3 doesn't: halo 1, halo 2, halo 3, halo wars, left 4 dead, fable, fable 2, gears of war 1, gears of war 2, halo 3 odst, left 4 dead 2.
Yes xbox live may cost $40 for 12 months, but that money is spent on updating xbox live. PSN is simply no competition for xbox live.
I own a ps3, xbox 360 and a wii... the 360 is by far the better console.
Your post depresses me. I just bought a 360, and those are the game I have to look forward to? WTF! >:(
They're like all the damn same sh!t!
And I don't know why so many people have a problem with PSN compared to Live. It's great for me, wtf. I've never had an issue with lag or anything for any of my games, like Killzone, GT5:P, GTAIV, some other stuff... Friggin' M$ shovin' that $50 card down my throat, I see it as the same service and for all the millions they pinch out of users from adverts, I don't know why I am paying for it. Yea ok it really isn't much, but I don't have the money right now to pay for it but I have to cause what else would I do with 360 games...
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