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Sony president denies upcoming PS3 price cut rumors
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article published on 8 July, 2009
Sony president Sir Howard Stringer has once again denied that the company will be dropping the price of the PlayStation 3, despite source after source asking for one.
Stringer responded first directly to Activision CEO Robert Kotick's comments that the developer may not support the PS3 if the price isn't cut this year.
"He likes to make a lot of noise," added Stringer, via GI.biz. ... [ read the full article ]
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Originally posted by DXR88:
i like it toasty
meh it should come out the DVD tray with scratches on it. :P
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12. July 2009 @ 17:01 |
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Explaining the lack of a price cut, Stringer added: "We feel that we're sacrificing the short term to pay dividends in the long term.
People are having short-term thinking -- the platform is not even three years old. It was $599; it's now $399. The focus on pricing is something we appreciate, but you have to have the conviction and the confidence that you are on the right path for the long term and ultimately you'll get all the consumers you want."
keep applying that anal lube ppl
LMAO.... Thats exactly how i feel about it and the reason i am waiting on the price of PS3 to drop. Its just talk of past present and future and presently people are being bent over cause all my xbox360 games look exactly like the PS3 versions. Hopefully Microsoft doesnot do me the same way with an eventual RROD.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
i like it toasty
meh it should come out the DVD tray with scratches on it. :P
The only reason that a 360 would cause disk scratches is because of the user is a dumbass and moves the console while it is on. You keep diverting to the rrod, which is fixed, if that is your only point, than xbox 360 is by far the better console.
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Originally posted by pitmanfox:
to be frank, i do not care, cause i do not have PS3 or XBOX
Then be a silent frank.
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why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
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13. July 2009 @ 10:09 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
No because idiots like to argue about which console is better hence the classic name for all of this, "The Console War" or the more generic term, "Fanboy".
Play whichever console you want and enjoy it. Don't boast about which console is better because nobody cares. I know I don't. I have a PS3 and a PSP and I'm more than satisfied with it.
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Originally posted by xblade132:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
No because idiots like to argue about which console is better hence the classic name for all of this, "The Console War" or the more generic term, "Fanboy".
Play whichever console you want and enjoy it. Don't boast about which console is better because nobody cares. I know I don't. I have a PS3 and a PSP and I'm more than satisfied with it.
the only person i see starting a flame war here is chris, zippy puts in valid points, and links while chris comes in and puts a picture of a panda bear riding a go cart and a PS3 oven, and saying thats the only thing the ps3 is good for. He Then goes on to say that the 360 is the best console...
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Originally posted by xblade132:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
No because idiots like to argue about which console is better hence the classic name for all of this, "The Console War" or the more generic term, "Fanboy".
Play whichever console you want and enjoy it. Don't boast about which console is better because nobody cares. I know I don't. I have a PS3 and a PSP and I'm more than satisfied with it.
I dunno the console war is when you have 2 thriving consoles go head to head, IE Sega/Nintendo. The fan boys came next and were mostly carry overs from sports...thus why I hate sports :P
Originally posted by H08:
Originally posted by xblade132:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
No because idiots like to argue about which console is better hence the classic name for all of this, "The Console War" or the more generic term, "Fanboy".
Play whichever console you want and enjoy it. Don't boast about which console is better because nobody cares. I know I don't. I have a PS3 and a PSP and I'm more than satisfied with it.
the only person i see starting a flame war here is chris, zippy puts in valid points, and links while chris comes in and puts a picture of a panda bear riding a go cart and a PS3 oven, and saying thats the only thing the ps3 is good for. He Then goes on to say that the 360 is the best console...
Chris had a couple valid points as well, however would not admit the fact the 360 has had an atrocious fail rate record.
And I like boasting about what I precive to be the boons and busts of a console, sure I fail at words but the lulz comes regardless!
I really think they way the market is a console maker should not build an overly complex console hardware wise, you have more than enough power at hand from more normal vendors and I bet the R&D to shrink the PC/Notebook tech into a unit would be alot cheaper than trying to make up something new and/or unknown to the industry.
The PS3 would have been much better off going with a more normal design rather than with the complected cell.
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The only reason that a 360 would cause disk scratches is because of the user is a dumbass and moves the console while it is on. You keep diverting to the rrod, which is fixed, if that is your only point, than xbox 360 is by far the better console.
Um no the the 360's drive would scratch the disk if the magnates in the drive came lose, which is common among lite-on and Hitachi.
if the magnates come off the disk flings itself around in the drive, making screeching clunking noises damaging the motor and the laser.
the first gen boxes also read disks at an angle so setting you box up right would ruin this angle slightly scratching the disks at the outer edge.
i could go one all day but i have a 360 to play and a Copy of RF:Gorilla to beat
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Originally posted by DXR88:
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The only reason that a 360 would cause disk scratches is because of the user is a dumbass and moves the console while it is on. You keep diverting to the rrod, which is fixed, if that is your only point, than xbox 360 is by far the better console.
Um no the the 360's drive would scratch the disk if the magnates in the drive came lose, which is common among lite-on and Hitachi.
if the magnates come off the disk flings itself around in the drive, making screeching clunking noises damaging the motor and the laser.
the first gen boxes also read disks at an angle so setting you box up right would ruin this angle slightly scratching the disks at the outer edge.
i could go one all day but i have a 360 to play and a Copy of RF:Gorilla to beat
Ya the disc system was poorly designed, and the over ehating has not really been fixed they were just able to lower the fail rate by a half or more with the new less heat producing chips, the overall design is still a fcking joke.
How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
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How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
RF:Gorilla? its short but the destructible environments are Spectacular, then again all the RF series where short. the AI is about as Dumb as Bricks but there Sheer numbers are Stupendously impossible to beat.
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Originally posted by DXR88:
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How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
RF:Gorilla? its short but the destructible environments are Spectacular, then again all the RF series where short. the AI is about as Dumb as Bricks but there Sheer numbers are Stupendously impossible to beat.
So basically its like 2 with more destructible environments and dumber AI.... RF1 was awesome RF2...dumb..... 3...even dumber >>
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
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How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
RF:Gorilla? its short but the destructible environments are Spectacular, then again all the RF series where short. the AI is about as Dumb as Bricks but there Sheer numbers are Stupendously impossible to beat.
So basically its like 2 with more destructible environments and dumber AI.... RF1 was awesome RF2...dumb..... 3...even dumber >>
bout sums it up its a good play but its replay value is 0%
if at all im more interested in the technology behind the Destructables than the game itself.
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
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How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
RF:Gorilla? its short but the destructible environments are Spectacular, then again all the RF series where short. the AI is about as Dumb as Bricks but there Sheer numbers are Stupendously impossible to beat.
So basically its like 2 with more destructible environments and dumber AI.... RF1 was awesome RF2...dumb..... 3...even dumber >>
bout sums it up its a good play but its replay value is 0%
if at all im more interested in the technology behind the Destructables than the game itself.
I hope you did not pay money for it, disposable games like that are a dime a dozen >>
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
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How bad is it, I hear its a forgettable lulz fest?
RF:Gorilla? its short but the destructible environments are Spectacular, then again all the RF series where short. the AI is about as Dumb as Bricks but there Sheer numbers are Stupendously impossible to beat.
So basically its like 2 with more destructible environments and dumber AI.... RF1 was awesome RF2...dumb..... 3...even dumber >>
bout sums it up its a good play but its replay value is 0%
if at all im more interested in the technology behind the Destructables than the game itself.
I hope you did not pay money for it, disposable games like that are a dime a dozen >>
Im not stupid, i play before i buy always. wither it be renting or....Borrowing from a persons...(not obvious right).
its worth a play if you like blowing stuff up. helps if ya want to level a duplex or some apartments
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why does everyone feel the need to bash a console. cant everyone jsut be happy with what they have?
I know, I've got all three and I'm happy, I'm just defending the xbox 360 from the ridiculous "60%" failure rate remark.
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the only person i see starting a flame war here is chris, zippy puts in valid points, and links while chris comes in and puts a picture of a panda bear riding a go cart and a PS3 oven, and saying thats the only thing the ps3 is good for. He Then goes on to say that the 360 is the best console...
You can give it but you can't take it. Zippy was calling the xbox 360 an "easy brake oven" a long time before i posted that pic, i did not start anything.
How is that any different to what I posted???
The panda was used in context, it makes sense if you read the quote. BTW it was a grill, not an oven.
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the only person i see starting a flame war here is chris
There was no "flame" war, nobody was calling each other "fags", you just made that up, your post is the most off topic one in here.
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zippy puts in valid points, and links
Sorry I do not have enough time to scour the internet to find links to prove my point to narrow minded "fanboys" (that article in the link was written by the author of two xbox 360 "uncloaking" books, he is more than likely just trying to sell his book)
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He Then goes on to say that the 360 is the best console...
Out of context, again. I said the xbox 360 is the best console in respects of:
Games - xbox has a lot more games than ps3, tell me how that is wrong.
Online gaming - I'm sorry, but PSN cannot compete with xbox live, the members prove that.
Warranty - Xbox 360 has a 3 year warranty, correct?
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however would not admit the fact the 360 has had an atrocious fail rate record.
Well, I admitted "Release date console had 30% failure. Falcon 10%. Jasper below 10%". Considering you said 25% is well above the industry standard, I would call 30% atrocious (only in release date consoles).
Btw what the *bleep* does "Wow...obvious troll is obvious ... 360 fanboy inddeed....." mean, I am no "troll", I am no 13 yo who spends his life in a darkened room watching old reruns of seinfeild (best show ever btw). Yes, i may be a 360 fanboy, but that's only come from my judging of the 3 consoles, and I decided 360, you can't change personal opinions.
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So let me get this straight. Person A gives links, proof, and valid documentation and is "wrong" but Person B who gives ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support their "facts" is "right" and is supposed to somehow be taken seriously?...That sure isn't the way I see it, and to top it all off what I don't get is how you have the time to post 6 replies and track this thread over the course of 3 days but yet you
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do not have enough time to scour the internet to find links to prove my point to narrow minded "fanboys"
So explain to me how is anyone supposed to take you seriously with such contradiction? Because it sure as hell doesn't make any sense...
Edit: Oh forgot to add that Zippy, Jemborg, DXR88 & Varnull (plus a couple others) have been here for quite some time and DO know what they are talking about (quite well if you ask just about ANYONE here on aD) and should be taken pretty seriously because they actually give supporting PROOF with their comments to uphold their views & points.
Give me proof over conjecture any day, any time.
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So let me get this straight. Person A gives links, proof, and valid documentation and is "wrong" but Person B who gives ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support their "facts" is "right" and is supposed to somehow be taken seriously?...That sure isn't the way I see it, and to top it all off what I don't get is how you have the time to post 6 replies and track this thread over the course of 3 days but yet you
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do not have enough time to scour the internet to find links to prove my point to narrow minded "fanboys"
So explain to me how is anyone supposed to take you seriously with such contradiction? Because it sure as hell doesn't make any sense...
Edit: Oh forgot to add that Zippy, Jemborg, DXR88 & Varnull (plus a couple others) have been here for quite some time and DO know what they are talking about (quite well if you ask just about ANYONE here on aD) and should be taken pretty seriously because they actually give supporting PROOF with their comments to uphold their views & points.
Give me proof over conjecture any day, any time.
I try and keep my rants balanced even if most lean one way or the other.
The only links I really don't have about the 360 would be its current heat issues, but frankly from sites that tear it down and show you what its made of I am convinced that they have done little to deal with the heat problem other than put new chips it in and change around the heatsink some for no real good reason.
I mean come on like DX88 said if they put 5$ or 8$ more into it with a fan the damn thing would never fail in anything but 90+ degree weather!!
Have you heard any interesting rumors about the PS3 with heat or disc unit issues? Seems to be more disc unit failures than heating issues but I dunno rumors need alot of something factual to back them up and I can take note of are 50-120$ lens units for the PS3 poping up in greater numbers by the year. If anything sony is known to cut corners on lens unit, it would not be to off the wall to think the new ones have some issues, and frankly when you build things for maxim savings you will have random occurrences of parts that just wont hold up in real world conditions.
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I would have to say that MS & Sony both have learned from past/current mistakes (Sony last gen with DRE's applied to better this gen and MS this gen with RLOD, E74 & DRE for their next gen).
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I would have to say that MS & Sony both have learned from past/current mistakes (Sony last gen with DRE's applied to better this gen and MS this gen with RLOD, E74 & DRE for their next gen).
Well frankly the PS3 has not been really tested then again it took the 360 almsot 3 years to really grate on the nerves of the public, prehaps what I am seeing with the PS3 parts and lens unit is normal failed units that are "parted" for P&R and a glut of used consoles no one can sell whole. Still had 2 friends that the BR portion of the lens unit stopped working and seen dozens of said units on ebay. It makes you wonder but 5% of millions are thousands and thousands of units and they will end up in some shape or form as parts for the masses.
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And I guess Zip that there is the crux of it. I see a large number of first release rrod 360's still circulating from day 1 going round and round in circles with people attempting to fix them.. giving up and selling them on.. just about every "I can fix that there are guides2 n00b then complains about buying a rrod 360 without stating it's manufacture date or version.. and more importantly what state it was in when they bought it.. I know one idiot who bought the same one twice 4 months apart.. it had a different (though still stripped for anything worthwhile) dvd drive and somebody had changed the fans and the gpu heatsink arrangement for a later version...
The failure rate is very likely off the sheaf the normal for consumer electronics.. about 0.6% .. a little high but well within the bounds of a sustainable percentage. Any manufacturer who breaks the 2% margin does a redesign and general recall. Don't forget.. how the end user installs and uses the product has a far greater effect on it's lifespan than any inherent latent manufacturing defect.
I remember back before the PS3 was released commenting how I thought that the blu drive would be the weak link seeing as failure to get it working in it's "built down to a price" clothes was what was reported to be the cause of the 12 month delay in going to market... seems I have been proved right by time.
Odd how the wii doesn't have anything like the visible apparent fail rate of either of the others.. maybe that's because it's cheap.. or just maybe it's because they don't break except by user tampering.
I don't have any of this gen consoles.. really strange how I have 3 ps1's all working splendidly and used on a weekly basis... yet now these high value systems seem built like cheap far east rubbish (made in Hong Kong ring any bells?) .. guess we are now in the world of anything under $600 being seen as use till broken then throw away and buy another.. rather like phones or toasters or kettles..
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And I guess Zip that there is the crux of it. I see a large number of first release rrod 360's still circulating from day 1 going round and round in circles with people attempting to fix them.. giving up and selling them on.. just about every "I can fix that there are guides2 n00b then complains about buying a rrod 360 without stating it's manufacture date or version.. and more importantly what state it was in when they bought it.. I know one idiot who bought the same one twice 4 months apart.. it had a different (though still stripped for anything worthwhile) dvd drive and somebody had changed the fans and the gpu heatsink arrangement for a later version...
I'd jump in and try my hand at restoring a 360 but the main problem with that is the chips themselves and that means alot of bad boards and frankly I suck at board repair and diagnosis, I prefer just putting it together in whole parts I don;t have to fuss with. But the 360 has had to easily damaged chips and that's just kept me away from it even when I had it for a short while.
I was thinking about getting a chiped unit but 500$ for an easy break oven .... I just dunno I have put it off, the PS3 is the same I have put it off since I can't chip it and get my monies worth out of it.
The WII tho I have that slotted to get after a laptop and a 500$ futon and crap..mabye next year I'll tag one with one of those read any media drives. :X
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The failure rate is very likely off the sheaf the normal for consumer electronics.. about 0.6% .. a little high but well within the bounds of a sustainable percentage. Any manufacturer who breaks the 2% margin does a redesign and general recall. Don't forget.. how the end user installs and uses the product has a far greater effect on it's lifespan than any inherent latent manufacturing defect.
I remember back before the PS3 was released commenting how I thought that the blu drive would be the weak link seeing as failure to get it working in it's "built down to a price" clothes was what was reported to be the cause of the 12 month delay in going to market... seems I have been proved right by time.
I thought the industry standard was about 5% ..wait..klet me ramp up the gears in my head 5%=0.5 *brain explodes*
I think if you add up all the different fail rate values it will come to about 5% for everything, I could be talking out my ass or read it somewhere it hard to say. I guess it really depends on the company some don't have the service to handle fail rates so they keep them as low as possible.
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Odd how the wii doesn't have anything like the visible apparent fail rate of either of the others.. maybe that's because it's cheap.. or just maybe it's because they don't break except by user tampering.
I have noticed some over heating issues but frankly nothing like the 360s or PS3, I think it helps the WII that it dose not paly DVD videos.
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I don't have any of this gen consoles.. really strange how I have 3 ps1's all working splendidly and used on a weekly basis... yet now these high value systems seem built like cheap far east rubbish (made in Hong Kong ring any bells?) .. guess we are now in the world of anything under $600 being seen as use till broken then throw away and buy another.. rather like phones or toasters or kettles..
I have tried to get back into gaming at a regular pace but price V cost I am simply not OCD enough anymore to overlook the fact I am spending money on causal mass marketed crap, which takes up 90% of media including games, one of my gripes about modern gaming the only hardcore thing about it is consumerism, IE the act of zombies out for brains...er brands and franchises....
Frankly the mass market mass production thing has been in full swing for a decade or more I have seen 1000+ crap made my brand names with good reputations..... spam might improve ones quality of life but its still spam....
The only thing I can rag on the WII(oh god the imaginary!! lulz) is the precision of the motion sensing using line of sight IR and other limited or unpolished tech in it...cheap cheap cheap CHEAP! the rest of the unit is not so bad.... the others need to take note that you don't HAVE to take huge losses on hardware...and frankly the console war model has seen better days I hope its put in the ground in the next generation or 2......
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lets see.. i may have to host this myself...
and for the fanboi's (see what I did there?)
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