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Joel Tenenbaum fined $675,000 over copyright infringement

article published on 1 August, 2009

After just three hours of deliberations, a jury has ruled that convicted pirate Joel Tenenbaum has willfully infringed on copyrights, and has awarded the RIAA and the media companies $675,000 USD, $22,500 for each of the 30 songs he admitted to sharing. In some ways, Tenenbaum should be grateful, as the jury could have awarded up to $150,000 in penalties per track. In the recent ruling ... [ read the full article ]

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7sons
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6. August 2009 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LET ME POSE A QUESTION TO YOU. IF I AM AT YOUR HOUSE LISTENING TO YOUR MUSIC THAT YOU LEGALLY BOUGHT OR DOWNLOADED, AND I LIKED SOME
TRACKS, WOULD YOU BURN ME A COPY OF THAT MUSIC? IF YOUR ANSWER IS NO,
YOU'RE A LIAR!!! EVERYONE DOES IT FOR THEIR FRIENDS. P2P IS JUST THIS IN AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE!
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6. August 2009 @ 21:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let's knock off the attitudes and insults.
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6. August 2009 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I give my music away.. that which I own anyway.. that is only about 20% of my total output over the years.. some of these cartel companies still think they own my work even though it sits there unavailable because they don't consider it profitable enough FOR THEM... That means I can't let you have it without getting sued for releasing MY WORK for no profit. To get it back will cost me a small fortune.. yet it's my work and my property in the long run. I own the IP and I own the copyright.. it's MY WORK.. not theirs and the way I see it is this.. IF they have discontinued it because they don't see millions in profits for them then why shouldn't I be allowed to change the licensing to copyleft and just give it away?
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7. August 2009 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry, not intentional. won't happen again
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7. August 2009 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
I give my music away.. that which I own anyway.. that is only about 20% of my total output over the years.. some of these cartel companies still think they own my work even though it sits there unavailable because they don't consider it profitable enough FOR THEM... That means I can't let you have it without getting sued for releasing MY WORK for no profit. To get it back will cost me a small fortune.. yet it's my work and my property in the long run. I own the IP and I own the copyright.. it's MY WORK.. not theirs and the way I see it is this.. IF they have discontinued it because they don't see millions in profits for them then why shouldn't I be allowed to change the licensing to copyleft and just give it away?
Did the RIAA or record companies come put a gun to your head when you wanted to make money off your recordings?

I do see the POV in burning a copy of songs whilst playing for someone in the house...but when it comes to the blatant misuse of this via P2P that is where the line is drawn.

How many copies do you think make into hands of people that sell these for profits in China, India, etc?
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7. August 2009 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wahwah1:
Originally posted by varnull:
I give my music away.. that which I own anyway.. that is only about 20% of my total output over the years.. some of these cartel companies still think they own my work even though it sits there unavailable because they don't consider it profitable enough FOR THEM... That means I can't let you have it without getting sued for releasing MY WORK for no profit. To get it back will cost me a small fortune.. yet it's my work and my property in the long run. I own the IP and I own the copyright.. it's MY WORK.. not theirs and the way I see it is this.. IF they have discontinued it because they don't see millions in profits for them then why shouldn't I be allowed to change the licensing to copyleft and just give it away?
Did the RIAA or record companies come put a gun to your head when you wanted to make money off your recordings?

I do see the POV in burning a copy of songs whilst playing for someone in the house...but when it comes to the blatant misuse of this via P2P that is where the line is drawn.

How many copies do you think make into hands of people that sell these for profits in China, India, etc?
The only blatant misuse of file shearing is when people are making money off it.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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7. August 2009 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
I give my music away.. that which I own anyway.. that is only about 20% of my total output over the years.. some of these cartel companies still think they own my work even though it sits there unavailable because they don't consider it profitable enough FOR THEM... That means I can't let you have it without getting sued for releasing MY WORK for no profit. To get it back will cost me a small fortune.. yet it's my work and my property in the long run. I own the IP and I own the copyright.. it's MY WORK.. not theirs and the way I see it is this.. IF they have discontinued it because they don't see millions in profits for them then why shouldn't I be allowed to change the licensing to copyleft and just give it away?
Hey varnull I dont understand whats happening with your music and the rights to it matey. Could you explain please, cause I have written a few songs and plan to get them registered to me so I can release them and I need a little help. Cheers, joey
 
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