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Man faces $210,000 fine for selling counterfeit software
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article published on 18 August, 2009
A judge has ruled today that Matthew Miller of Delaware must pay $210,000 in damages and court costs for selling hundreds of counterfeit copies of popular software on the auction site iOffer.
The Business Software Alliance (BSA) adds that the software includes Photoshop, Office and software from Autodesk. Miller would pirate copies of the software, burn them to DVDs, and sell them to ... [ read the full article ]
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18. August 2009 @ 05:59 |
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That's utter crap. That chick who just shared like 21 songs has to pay like 10 times as much as a scumbag who counterfeited programs worth 100's of dollars for profit. Something is seriously wrong with the US justice system.
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beanos66
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18. August 2009 @ 06:09 |
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That "Chick" is Jammie "Dodger" Thomas Rasset
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18. August 2009 @ 07:17 |
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canuckerz, that is the law, the justice system just carries out laws made by crooks.
I thought it interesting that they were implying a counterfeiter is more apt to steal your idenity than the persons selling stolen goods or stuff that doesn't work. They are the ones I don't trust.
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18. August 2009 @ 12:10 |
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Now these damages are a bit more reasonable. They are still crazy (at a little over 10x the software's "worth") but it's much more reasonable than the RIAA's $1.92 million "judgement".
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18. August 2009 @ 12:35 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
That's utter crap. That chick who just shared like 21 songs has to pay like 10 times as much as a scumbag who counterfeited programs worth 100's of dollars for profit. Something is seriously wrong with the US justice system.
No, something's wrong the Kazaa sharing moron who got caught.
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... Thomas-Rasset had been given the chance to settle for $3,000 to $5,000 earlier in the case. "Since day one we have been willing to settle this case...
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18. August 2009 @ 13:10 |
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Miller was caught after he agreed to sell $11,900 worth of software to an undercover agent for $45 USD.
you have to be the dumbest counter fitter on earth, $45 couldn't get me out of the bed in the morning.
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18. August 2009 @ 14:35 |
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Why not charge him with 2 million and set Jamie Thomas free of fines!
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18. August 2009 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
That's utter crap. That chick who just shared like 21 songs has to pay like 10 times as much as a scumbag who counterfeited programs worth 100's of dollars for profit. Something is seriously wrong with the US justice system.
No, something's wrong the Kazaa sharing moron who got caught.
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... Thomas-Rasset had been given the chance to settle for $3,000 to $5,000 earlier in the case. "Since day one we have been willing to settle this case...
I was not aware of that, she really is dense.
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18. August 2009 @ 17:36 |
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warez for profit=jail
ITS ALL ABOUT FREE fck this loser i hope he rots in hell he should have burned them for the exchange of a spindle of dvd's. this guy was making money off someone else work. but in reality no software is worth $11,900. and anyone willing to sell blatantly pirated software will have no moral issues with including litmus and starting there own private botnet to farm some cash for bail money :D
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Tristan_2
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18. August 2009 @ 23:42 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why not charge him with 2 million and set Jamie Thomas free of fines!
Indeed I agree with you, this guy gets away praticly scotch free for making dough from others software for like 10 bucks..hell I'm surprised people who got suckered into paying to a pirate didn't get jail time for this like others who don't know who's legit and who's not. The law works like shit, its broken this also shows men are treated with more respect then women, men are given lesser punishments while women get like Jamie Thomas over a 2 million fine for something similar but not making a profit out of it.
Originally posted by Hopium:
warez for profit=jail
ITS ALL ABOUT FREE fck this loser i hope he rots in hell he should have burned them for the exchange of a spindle of dvd's. this guy was making money off someone else work. but in reality no software is worth $11,900. and anyone willing to sell blatantly pirated software will have no moral issues with including litmus and starting there own private botnet to farm some cash for bail money :D
I agree with you but you forget the problem Hopium he was using another company software found a way to delete the DRM from it and sell it for profit, the good thing is the BSA I respect more is they don't go after people who don't know they are paying a pirate..also why it is that high is due to it was originaly from another copanty he is stealing profit from..even though in reality he sould be fined 2 million other then what was said. The price he has to pay should be what "File Sharer" Jamie Thomas has to pay and this ass hole should pay what Jamie should.
What was interesting though is the court case does explain why like the FBI and the RIAA and MPAA may go after people is pirates who make sites that look legal use your own information to report to the authorities thats probably why crap like these copyright cases start to begin with. Even though they didn't say that, the just said they can use your information. I'm just implying that's what they could do and may all ready have to hurt consumors
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18. August 2009 @ 23:47 |
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FFS.. don't you people get it yet?? .. free open source software and operating systems.. cut these commercial shysters out of the loop completely.. and the pirates and the counterfeiters.. all of em... Now how many people saying "come on the BSA have unpaid winrar after it's trial has expired instead of using a freeware alternative... and is your winduhz legal.. is anything legal.. betyou have at least one hookey mp3 on there.. self ripped or not.....
still think M$ are your best friends.. I remember a time when a GUI meant unix...
now I wait for all the apologists and monopoly supporters and brainless ----- coming bashing.. come ahead.. argue with that..
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18. August 2009 @ 23:55 |
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what a douche.. I would just give the sh1t away....
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19. August 2009 @ 02:39 |
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Originally posted by B33rdrnkr:
what a douche.. I would just give the sh1t away....
quite the contrary, giving it away is distributing it free or no.
Download what you need from the monopolies and leave the rest. Adobe photoshop can be had for the greatest price on earth free if you know where to look. sometimes i prefer the alternative GIMP is an awesome program often over looked.
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19. August 2009 @ 17:34 |
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Here is the latest racket from the music thieves. You must pay for a Premium account, if you wanna download CDs in a reasonable time. This is no better than the software crook...
http://jollyjoke.blogspot.com/
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19. August 2009 @ 19:52 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
That's utter crap. That chick who just shared like 21 songs has to pay like 10 times as much as a scumbag who counterfeited programs worth 100's of dollars for profit. Something is seriously wrong with the US justice system.
If you truly want to see a case of just how far out of whack the U.S. has gotten..google Morton Berger.
Insanity.
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19. August 2009 @ 20:21 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
That's utter crap. That chick who just shared like 21 songs has to pay like 10 times as much as a scumbag who counterfeited programs worth 100's of dollars for profit. Something is seriously wrong with the US justice system.
If you truly want to see a case of just how far out of whack the U.S. has gotten..google Morton Berger.
Insanity.
Child porn is a interesting issue how do you balance out the the need for it and yet still protect minors. Well first off anyone involved with the production of child porn gets life(or a bullet in the head), anyone selling child porn gets life(or a bullet in the head) minors involved with it are checked to ensure they are not part of it and merely the victim of it.
Next allow fictional images and photo shopping of child heads onto adult bodies(yes that's a crime currently, as is hentai for the most part). Next you either make possession not a crime its just something that can not involve money making or you make it about as bad as involuntary manslaughter, and that's per count indent not 200 pics equal 200 kills... oh gaawww...we are burning down the world for the sake of "for the appearance of morality".......
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20. August 2009 @ 02:10 |
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So who do you think is spending more money on "lobbying" politicians?
The RIAA, or the BSA?
Lobbying is such a great word isn't it? Yet another word made up by the establishment to make people think corruption and bribery aren't part of the process involved in making laws.
Seeing a case like this puts things into perspective, if only for a moment.
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20. August 2009 @ 02:24 |
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Originally posted by llongtheD:
So who do you think is spending more money on "lobbying" politicians?
The RIAA, or the BSA?
Lobbying is such a great word isn't it? Yet another word made up by the establishment to make people think corruption and bribery aren't part of the process involved in making laws.
Seeing a case like this puts things into perspective, if only for a moment.
Thats why lobbying is the root of the problem remove the ability of to donate and gives gifts of more than 5K for any person or organization, and if its found any organization funneling money to a single person or party not only dose the fed take the money the person in question is fired losing all befits, remove the ability for paid lunches. And for christ sake don't let any house/senate state or other wise politician become a lobbyist.
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Ok maybe not how about this if they have more than 5M in assets they get nothing but discounted housing and free security. Gifts,trips,ect are banned if you get anything you are removed from office if its over 10K(goods or cash) you go to jail for an hour of every 1K over 10K and are banned from public office for life by being marked as a felon.
These people in federal government need to be brought back down to earth.......
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