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27. August 2009 @ 01:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.belzar.com/
They seem to have changed the site,to remove all details of the mod chip,perhaps they went bankrupt making all those mod chips O.o

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27. August 2009 @ 05:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If they actualy did make a modchip...they would not go and admit it before manufacturing had started. That would be like announcing to the world that you plan to grow weed in your closet! More likely, they wanted to get a bunch of people linked to their site, so that they could put up a bunch of ads and make some money off anyone dumb enough to click one.


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1. September 2009 @ 05:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ps3 seems to be too securely programmed and to dangerous to open up...
what i wanna know is why i see torrents of ps3 games, sometimes psn games(those may be fake) if there is no way to play backups.
i thought it would be possible with installation of linux but if it were someone would have done it by now...
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1. September 2009 @ 05:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by imanewguy:

what i wanna know is why i see torrents of ps3 games, sometimes psn games(those may be fake) if there is no way to play backups.

Ive answered this a few times,its because people are stupid,these games are useless,they are missing important files,keys etc.
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1. September 2009 @ 06:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by imanewguy:
ps3 seems to be too securely programmed and to dangerous to open up...
what i wanna know is why i see torrents of ps3 games, sometimes psn games(those may be fake) if there is no way to play backups.
i thought it would be possible with installation of linux but if it were someone would have done it by now...
Think its also so when/if a mod chip does become available, all the games are already uploaded. (Think I asked this question myself some time back)



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1. September 2009 @ 08:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by miketrev:


Think its also so when/if a mod chip does become available, all the games are already uploaded. (Think I asked this question myself some time back)
Ive also said that these games are useless,so people are basically uploading rubbish.
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2. September 2009 @ 04:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There used to be a way to download free demos from the PSN, then to use a PC to replace them with full versions. I know it used to work...but I only tried it once, over a year ago...the new firmwares might have fixed this.


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6. September 2009 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Phew* good thing I kept reading. I too doubt that it get past the firmware thing. Its not like the occasional ps2 game where you'd use the internet. ALL these games are online, as well as the console. I wouldn't wanna be blocked from any online play at all. To mod my ps3 it would have to be a non-permanent solution.
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7. September 2009 @ 22:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't modchips have programs built in that have themselves "turn off" when they reach security check points? After that, they turn back on.
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8. September 2009 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, seeing as how there's no modchip for the PS3 yet, that's a purely theoretical question.

Unless, of course, you're referring to modchips for other platforms. In which case, yes, I'm sure there are those that are able to bypass security checks.

They're always optional, though. Not all modchips - seeing as how there are a LOT of them out there - have that security bypass/stealth feature.

And that would also be a big hurdle for modders - figuring out how to get it to not freak out upon PS3's SECURITY_PROGRAM(S)-OF~DEATH.
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10. September 2009 @ 02:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All of the earlier wii games were all ripped before modchips were available as well, and the early rips worked.
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10. September 2009 @ 02:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by swamibob:
All of the earlier wii games were all ripped before modchips were available as well, and the early rips worked.
The WII and its games dont have the same protection as the PS3 and its games.
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14. September 2009 @ 06:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think you can mod a PS3 now. This is why the PS3 is lagging way behind XBox. But I'm sure Sony will make it easy to mod it in future if it wants to overhaul XBox's lead. There's no way to make your console wildly popular (like PS2 then and XBox now) if you completely shut out the modders. I would say in a year's time modded PS3's will be the rage. I plan to get 1 then.
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10. November 2009 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 7_11:
I don't think you can mod a PS3 now. This is why the PS3 is lagging way behind XBox. But I'm sure Sony will make it easy to mod it in future if it wants to overhaul XBox's lead. There's no way to make your console wildly popular (like PS2 then and XBox now) if you completely shut out the modders. I would say in a year's time modded PS3's will be the rage. I plan to get 1 then.
until the ps3 becomes profitable, sony HAS to make money from the ps3 off game sales. So it'll glady shut out modders until then.
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10. November 2009 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What I don't get about Sony is that they've decided to simply eschew full software PS2 emulation. It makes almost no sense whatsoever.

Certainly, there are ridiculous amounts of coding that'd have to be done (the PC scene can attest to that), but I seem to recall Sony filing a patent for the Cell emulating the EE.

Then they'd be able to put PS2 classics on the PSN, alongside their PS1 games, and they'd have even more game sales. It really does strike me as odd.

...unless they're just waiting for the PS2 to finally croak and then they'll "suddenly" unveil PS2 emulation...

Originally posted by 7_11:
I would say in a year's time modded PS3's will be the rage. I plan to get 1 then.
September 14, 2010 is marked on my calendar. You better make good on your promise.
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11. November 2009 @ 03:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For a while, it seemed that sony would put a bunch of PS2 classics on the PSN store...I figured this was why the backwards compatability was removed...but then they backed out on their promise to re-release these old games as download-only versions...they didn't even rerelease GTASA or GT4...two of the biggest games from the PS2.

Realisticly, there is nothing other than the time & work involved that is preventing anyone from writing a "Other OS" that does nothing but play PS2 games. It would not work on the slimline, but only because of sony's locks. IF sony wanted to include PS2 support, it would be even easier for them...but they don't seem to care.


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11. November 2009 @ 04:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the EU 60gb with the BWC and only recently i've played 2 PS2 games GOW1+2 and from what i've seen PS3 didnt had even the slightest problem playing them, the fans didnt gone up not once, no frane breaks nothing, i cant remember to compare the loading times tho, but the BD drive was loading without stretching at all, like it does sometimes with motorstorm 2.

IMO sooner or later they will bring back the BWC.
Maybe when they kill PS2?
Maybe only via PSN? or the may have another plan, to release PS2 games to Blu ray disc's as game packs/collection, like they did with god of war 1+2.
You can feat more or less 10 PS2 games to a Dual-layer Blu-ray disc.
I would really like a Resident Evil collection or a Legacy of Kain Pack.
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11. November 2009 @ 06:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:


September 14, 2010 is marked on my calendar. You better make good on your promise.
Sorry I have to retract on my promise..lol.

I recently talked to a friend who sells modded consoles. He told me that nobody is working on modding the PS3 because the price of a blue-ray disc is way too high. If there is a police bust (he's talking about big time pirates) these guys would lose a fortune. A blank blue-ray disc is about 8 times more expensive than a blank dvd dl disc. Also think of all the modders who've invested heavily on their PS3 backups and one day find their console banned.

So I won't be getting a PS3 next year after all.
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11. November 2009 @ 06:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 7_11:

I recently talked to a friend who sells modded consoles. He told me that nobody is working on modding the PS3 because the price of a blue-ray disc is way too high.

I dont mean to offend you, but your friend is an idiot, i have said it a million times, the PS3 not being hacked has nothing to do with Blu Ray being too high, it is the PS3's security and nothing else, once it is cracked, the lamers who pirate games wont care about the price of Blu ray disc's.

Also on the PS2 emulation front, this will be a hard fete to be accomplished on non BC PS3's, all the BC consoles that run software emulation, have the RSX chip in them, non BC consoles dont have this.
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11. November 2009 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by marcusita:

I dont mean to offend you, but your friend is an idiot, i have said it a million times, the PS3 not being hacked has nothing to do with Blu Ray being too high, it is the PS3's security and nothing else, once it is cracked, the lamers who pirate games wont care about the price of Blu ray disc's.

No offence taken. But from my point of view I would think twice before modding a PS3. Assuming that the price of a legit XBox game is similar to a legit PS3 game, a XBox backup would cost around 5% of a legit. For a PS3 it would come to 25%. If the price difference between a backup and a legit is not that great I would definitely stick with going legit.

In fact I've just gone legit with my XBox after being banned 2 days ago. I don't know what to do with my 30 or so XBox backups now, lol.
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11. November 2009 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by marcusita:
Also on the PS2 emulation front, this will be a hard fete to be accomplished on non BC PS3's, all the BC consoles that run software emulation, have the RSX chip in them, non BC consoles dont have this.
Can you post the source of that? or say some facts?
Dont get me wrong, i am with you 100%.
It just makes no sense to be BWC via software for many reasons and you are the 1st to see posting this.
Every were i searched everyone says that the EU 60gb is BWC via SW.
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11. November 2009 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 7_11:

In fact I've just gone legit with my XBox after being banned 2 days ago. I don't know what to do with my 30 or so XBox backups now, lol.
I hear the ban is just for Xbox Live, ie the online stuff, you can still play your backup games, just not with your friends over the internet.
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11. November 2009 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bigo93:


I hear the ban is just for Xbox Live, ie the online stuff, you can still play your backup games, just not with your friends over the internet.
The day I got banned I took my modded console back to the shop where I bought it 3 months ago. They helped me install a brand new MB for $50 (the new type that has an extra 512MB internal memory unit...is this the Jasper everyone is talking about?). So I now only have one legit box. Maybe I'll sell my lot of backups on ebay for $10...hahaha.

On a side note. I bought GOW2 yesterday. I had my old hdd formatted (just in case) and thought I had lost all my old gamesaves. Surprise surprise. When I went online with my new GOW2 I found my gamesaves were there. I've never heard anything like this on these forums. So all is not lost.
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12. November 2009 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by SDF_GR:

Can you post the source of that? or say some facts?
Dont get me wrong, i am with you 100%.
It just makes no sense to be BWC via software for many reasons and you are the 1st to see posting this.
Every were i searched everyone says that the EU 60gb is BWC via SW.
That is true, the 60GB does have software, BUT, it also has the GSX chip, which the 40GB, non BC 80GB, 120GB and slim models dont have.

If you want sources, or wonder where i got the information, Genearl Plot a dev on the PCSX2 Emulator has stated quite a few times on this subject.
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12. November 2009 @ 08:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That really explains a lot, thanks for the info i will check it out.
 
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