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HP, Dell back Microsoft in patent fight
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article published on 28 August, 2009
Earlier this month, software giant Microsoft was shocked when they lost a patent dispute to i4i and were told that the word processing application Word would be blocked from sales starting in October.
Microsoft has appealed the decision and today has gotten some backup support from the large computer manufacturers (and big Microsoft customers) HP and Dell.
The companies asked the judge ... [ read the full article ]
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30. August 2009 @ 04:59 |
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Originally posted by 20TONS:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/features/vox/i4i-won-a-huge-legal-victory-but-at-what-cost/article1251606/
Let's hear it for the "Little Guy"! My hats off to him!
theonejrs
Thanks for the good read. I'll be watching this one closely. I hope M$ lose their appeal and have to pay up and remove it as ordered. Screw Dell & HP as they knew what they were getting into dealing with M$.
20TONS,
You're welcome. BTW! I don't think that the next court will even hear the appeal! The evidence against M$ is just too overwhelming. I just don't see any way that M$ could ever present a defense that would convince the court to hear the case! Everything from the last two courts would have to be thrown out. 40 Million USD in Punitive damages speaks volumes for how this court felt about M$ defense. Punitive damages are not usually awarded in this type of case! You have to really piss off the court to earn those!
Somewhere Bill Gates is wandering around muttering, "Lose!! We Never lose"! A Slight adjustment to his Ego-Mania is in order! ROFL!! This has been like watching a great Chess match!
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30. August 2009 @ 07:55 |
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from a computer sellers point of view, 9 out of 10 customers ask if office is included with laptop/desktop. the only reason is they have been bainwashed that it has to be there. weather it is 90 day or 30 day trial it has to be there. if it is not there, they have to have it or they will not buy.
one other thing. dell and hp are big players, but what about the other oem builders? acer, asus, lenovo, sony, gateway etc. most if not all bulers have it, but only 2 pipe up to help.
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KSib
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30. August 2009 @ 16:09 |
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I'm not really sure in what way anyone thinks OpenOffice is a better alternative than Office 2007 aside from the price. It's actually less user-friendly. It doesn't offer grammar suggestions. The equation editor is AWFUL (not relevant to most people, but I use it sometimes). So unless we're talking about the bang you get for your buck, I really do think Office 2007 is better... and nicer looking. I hate relatively ugly stuff on my machine. Find someone with a copy of Office 2007 that can be installed on 3 machines and have yourself a nice day. If not, then enjoy Open Office. There's nothing wrong with it if you don't feel like shelling out the money...I'm just saying that Word is (and now that I think about it Excel is) obviously better than the OpenOffice alternatives in terms of functionality and the user-interface.
P.S. If anyone knows of any particularly wonderful OpenOffice feature or awful Office 2007 (specifically Word, PowerPoint, or Excel) flaw that I missed or whatever then please comment so I can be enlightened. I'm willing to have an open mind about this. :)
-Kyle
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30. August 2009 @ 23:13 |
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"from a computer sellers point of view, 9 out of 10 customers ask if office is included with laptop/desktop. the only reason is they have been bainwashed that it has to be there. weather it is 90 day or 30 day trial it has to be there. if it is not there, they have to have it or they will not buy. "
This is why it would be so wonderful for microsoft not to be able to sell it for a while. When brainwashed people ask for office, the salesperson will be forced to tell them that office is no longer available, but that openoffice is still around, and free.
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30. August 2009 @ 23:49 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
"from a computer sellers point of view, 9 out of 10 customers ask if office is included with laptop/desktop. the only reason is they have been bainwashed that it has to be there. weather it is 90 day or 30 day trial it has to be there. if it is not there, they have to have it or they will not buy. "
This is why it would be so wonderful for microsoft not to be able to sell it for a while. When brainwashed people ask for office, the salesperson will be forced to tell them that office is no longer available, but that openoffice is still around, and free.
KillerBug,
That would be great, but I don't think in the long run it would be very good for the economy, as it would affect every OEM Windows Installer, not to mention every Recovery Disk, as they would have to be replaced too! So far this year according to http://www.peterrussell.dreamhosters.com/Odds/WorldClock.php there have been over 55 Million computers produced worldwide. Even if it was only in North America, the number of new Recovery CDs needed, would be staggering! It's a simple case of Micro$oft, HP and Dell "Deserve" it, but the people don't, and they're the ones who will pay in the end!
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31. August 2009 @ 00:26 |
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well at least it only effects word releases with the custom xml.
i4i may win, but the pirates are the real winners here.
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avoidz
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31. August 2009 @ 21:04 |
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Who the hell uses docx format files anyway for most Word documents? I've never received one or sent one.
Microsoft is in the wrong (again), but got exposed in the courts this time. No amount of crying from HP and Dell changes the facts of the case.
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KSib
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31. August 2009 @ 21:20 |
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Honestly, I haven't seen a whole lot of DOCX around. I use it for my own stuff, but if I'm sending it to other people I sometimes convert it to DOC or PDF because not enough people have either Office 2007 or the 2007 office viewer and even if they do, why even try to inconvenience people?
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1. September 2009 @ 01:26 |
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Does Microsoft have an original idea anymore???
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1. September 2009 @ 06:53 |
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Originally posted by borhan9:
Does Microsoft have an original idea anymore???
borhan9,
I think a better question would be, "did they ever have an original idea"? Most of the first GUI for windows was stolen from Digital Research, who developed it. It was turned down by Micro$oft, who then came up with their own GUI, which just happened to contain a fair amount of Digital Research's source code! Imagine that!
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1. September 2009 @ 10:18 |
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The only 2 original ideas M$ have ever had were incorporating a new era of robber baron tactics to a software company and the use of stock options to attract the best of the best.
Gates realized public opinion killed the robber barons of old. He fostered several brilliant PR companies. Very early they developed the persona of M$ being the source of all breaking computing knowledge. I remember reading an article where the author was in disbelief how the media believed M$ was so much more knowledgeable and capable than IBM. He just could get over the attitudes. Because the media was being influenced by several PR compaines they believed what they heard. He said at that time if M$ could project such an image, even though false, there is no stopping them. He was just so right! The IBM officials believe the press more than they did their own staff and caved in.
Gates is the greatest robber baron of all time! THAT is his originality. It doesn?t matter what you are selling as long as you have the best marketing strategy.
M$ hired many key persons with huge stock options. They had all the incentive they needed to average 60+hr weeks. M$ spawened several billionairs and hundreds of millionairs. He also proved young techies in dirty T-shirts pulling all nighters living on delivered free pizza and free Coke could blow away the suits. IBM created the persona that programmers needed to work in a 3 piece suits wiith garters were the only programmers to be considered serious. M$ destroyed that persona.
Thank you M$!
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