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PS3 firmware v3.01 affects Blu-ray drive?
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 28 September, 2009
Several hundred comments have been posted on an official Sony blog post announcing the v3.01 firmware release. Some of these comments are complaints, and seem to focus on issues with the console's Blu-ray drive after updating. Users report that the console no longer boots games or Blu-ray discs following the updates but some say that DVD-Video functionality still seems to work properly.
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cazer
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28. September 2009 @ 22:45 |
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i have hade no problems with 3.01 i have had no problems with any of the updates. didnt care for some of them but no problems on any of my ps3's
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28. September 2009 @ 23:19 |
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Originally posted by cazer:
i have hade no problems with 3.01 i have had no problems with any of the updates. didnt care for some of them but no problems on any of my ps3's
ye these problems generally only affect fringe numbers, the only reason really that we bother to add them to the site is awareness really, in case some users might have had strange problems and don't know they aren't alone.
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28. September 2009 @ 23:37 |
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I have had problems with my PSP with the sreen when Dissidia Final Fantasy came out but with 6.00 it has been fixing itself but besides the point. What I am mad about is this issue is I remember from a video from Srew Attakk on a Hard NEws Video were a europe tv Program was going to go in depth on the problems the PS3 says it has and its failure rate problems, what was explained was Sony went as far as telling anyone in that country if I remember right disusses its problms a reporter does for tv or so would get sued for trying to ruin Sony's reputation, Then for this crap to happen? I mean heck when Microsoft and Bungie found problms with Halo 3 ODST and they immediatly started to investigate the prob, but for Sony to say its a hardware problem???That is bull crap
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29. September 2009 @ 00:23 |
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Originally posted by Tristan_2:
I have had problems with my PSP with the sreen when Dissidia Final Fantasy came out but with 6.00 it has been fixing itself but besides the point. What I am mad about is this issue is I remember from a video from Srew Attakk on a Hard NEws Video were a europe tv Program was going to go in depth on the problems the PS3 says it has and its failure rate problems, what was explained was Sony went as far as telling anyone in that country if I remember right disusses its problms a reporter does for tv or so would get sued for trying to ruin Sony's reputation, Then for this crap to happen? I mean heck when Microsoft and Bungie found problms with Halo 3 ODST and they immediatly started to investigate the prob, but for Sony to say its a hardware problem???That is bull crap
I'm we'll need a link to prove that first, otherwise your full of B.S.. I've NEVER heard that Sony was going to sue people for saying their PS3's failed. And i have yet to here one Independent study say PS3's have an excessive failure rate. Sounds like your making up a story to stir the pot.
I called Sony service about this issue and they laughed at me. So it's obvious they have no intention of fixing anybody's unit any time soon..which will be be bad PR for them. It amazes me that companies don't realize the power of bad word of mouth buzz on the internet. Even if it's just a few 100 units...by the end of next month it will be picked up by the mainstream media and then that will kill any momentum they had with the slims.
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29. September 2009 @ 01:22 |
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It's funny one of the guys is complaining about not being to watch his most likely pirated R5 version of Bruno. Way to get them to listen. :)
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29. September 2009 @ 03:41 |
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I've already had this theory for a long while now, the only surprise is that its taken so long for it to enter the spotlight. The exact same thing happened circa 1.9X all the way to 2.3X something.
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29. September 2009 @ 03:56 |
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:o Sony's consoles screw up, too!? How come this isn't big news like the 360s RRoD is?
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29. September 2009 @ 05:18 |
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Originally posted by Amak:
:o Sony's consoles screw up, too!? How come this isn't big news like the 360s RRoD is?
Because this isn't the 10-52% of PS3 owners or whatever the real percentage for failure is with Xbox 360s. Because this concerns like 0,1% of PS3 owners, if even that. Because this isn't about the whole damn console breaking up, this is software failure, which can be fixed with an update.
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29. September 2009 @ 05:25 |
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Originally posted by jookycola :
I'm we'll need a link to prove that first, otherwise your full of B.S.. I've NEVER heard that Sony was going to sue people for saying their PS3's failed. And i have yet to here one Independent study say PS3's have an excessive failure rate. Sounds like your making up a story to stir the pot.
I called Sony service about this issue and they laughed at me. So it's obvious they have no intention of fixing anybody's unit any time soon..which will be be bad PR for them. It amazes me that companies don't realize the power of bad word of mouth buzz on the internet. Even if it's just a few 100 units...by the end of next month it will be picked up by the mainstream media and then that will kill any momentum they had with the slims.
Sony were publicity flogged on the BBC's watchdog for a high failure rate, i think from memory Sony's own figures were into several thousand but they would not disclose this information to the BBC, i wonder why?
sony PR (professional liars) soon reacted to the BBC's scathing report.
i did submit it for afterdawn news but sony on prime time television is not NEWS according to the un-biased afterdawn.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009..._yellow_li.html
Originally posted by sony yellow ring of death:
by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
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Sony repeatedly refuses to release the failure rate for that model, claiming that the information is "commercially sensitive".
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29. September 2009 @ 05:56 |
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I don't know why people think Sony's fail rate is so low. Keep in mind the 360 was failing but it didn't come out right away, it took some time like 1 or 2 years I believe. Sony just manages to hide their trail much better than Microsoft. The more advanced the technology the more chances of failure are introduced. And just for the record Sony's customer service is beyond HORRIBLE! Microsoft's customer service is bad, but you have a better chance of getting a free replacement with them. Sony on the other hand just have a "I don't care it's your fault attitude". Pay up!
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29. September 2009 @ 06:13 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
I don't know why people think Sony's fail rate is so low. Keep in mind the 360 was failing but it didn't come out right away, it took some time like 1 or 2 years I believe. Sony just manages to hide their trail much better than Microsoft. The more advanced the technology the more chances of failure are introduced. And just for the record Sony's customer service is beyond HORRIBLE! Microsoft's customer service is bad, but you have a better chance of getting a free replacement with them. Sony on the other hand just have a "I don't care it's your fault attitude". Pay up!
there is a fil rate that sony are covering up as the bbc watchdog exposed but i dont believe its as bad as the 360.
sony hiding the truth of the failure rates hiding behind their public relations (professional liars) staff is an utter disgrace
just w8 for the sony afterdawn bloggers (Public relations paid liars)to say stuff like "well microsoft/apple/hp/ect did it first", or "they do it so why cant we" bull crud.
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29. September 2009 @ 08:35 |
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Originally posted by sony yellow ring of death:
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by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
That is %2 genius. Now, where is my pay check Sony.
pphoenix, your mystic lack of logic has converted me to hate all things Sony. Will your next anti-Sony sermon be under the bridge? Will we try to get the Billy Goat Gruff after the meeting?
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29. September 2009 @ 09:54 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
Originally posted by sony yellow ring of death:
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by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
That is %2 genius. Now, where is my pay check Sony.
pphoenix, your mystic lack of logic has converted me to hate all things Sony. Will your next anti-Sony sermon be under the bridge? Will we try to get the Billy Goat Gruff after the meeting?
ah cherry picking my post are you well done.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009..._yellow_li.html
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Sony repeatedly refuses to release the failure rate for that model, claiming that the information is "commercially sensitive".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations#Spin
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Spin
In public relations, "spin" is sometimes a pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favour of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by commentators and political opponents, when they produce a counter argument or position.
The techniques of "spin"s include selectively presenting facts and quotes that support one's position (cherry picking), the so-called "non-denial," phrasing in a way that assumes unproven truths, euphemisms for drawing attention away from items considered distasteful, and ambiguity in public statements.
public relations liars do so enjoy their pay checks.
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29. September 2009 @ 10:04 |
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You make it so easy.
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29. September 2009 @ 11:22 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
That is %2 genius. Now, where is my pay check Sony.
Exactly. So even if 75% of the 12,500 where 60gig models that would only be 9,375 OUT OF 2.5 MILLION....Um yeah, talk about "cherry picking", your point makes no sense or does nothing to warrant mass concern ppheonix.
And on a side note ~ glassd please refrain from instigating a situation with other aD members or your actions will be addressed accordingly. If you don't agree with what is said by someone then by all means "attack" the post and show it's invalidity, but don't attack the poster. Because then you are no better than him.
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29. September 2009 @ 11:23 |
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Originally posted by Amak:
:o Sony's consoles screw up, too!? How come this isn't big news like the 360s RRoD is?
Because this isn't the 10-52% of PS3 owners or whatever the real percentage for failure is with Xbox 360s. Because this concerns like 0,1% of PS3 owners, if even that. Because this isn't about the whole damn console breaking up, this is software failure, which can be fixed with an update.
Sony won't release the actual failure rates which is much higher 1% on the basis that it will hurt their sales, which of course it will, if everyone finds out that Sony makes hardware out of the same material as every single other manufacturer it will just destroy them. Hard drives, CPUs, memory, they all fail. Microsoft and Sony are equally full of it, but people tend to blast Microsoft more than other companies.
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29. September 2009 @ 11:40 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
That is %2 genius. Now, where is my pay check Sony.
Exactly. So even if 75% of the 12,500 where 60gig models that would only be 9,375 OUT OF 2.5 MILLION....Um yeah, talk about "cherry picking", your point makes no sense or does nothing to warrant mass concern ppheonix.
And on a side note ~ glassd please refrain from instigating a situation with other aD members or your actions will be addressed accordingly. If you don't agree with what is said by someone then by all means "attack" the post and show it's invalidity, but don't attack the poster. Because then you are no better than him.
No problem. I will play nice.
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29. September 2009 @ 12:43 |
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12,500 dead PS3's is down to THE YELLOW RING OF DEATH FAIL RATE not this new firmware damage.
those fail rates have yet to be added to the overall numbers of dead consoles.
Sony admitted that "12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007."
so fail rate for sony firmware is not yet available but it will be on top of the 12,500 that have already bricked in the UK.
If you have a damaged PS3 which is outside the limited 1 year warranty Sony will fix you console for you, for £128, they will only give you 3 months warranty on this REFURBISHED unit.
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Aye Sony do fix it for £128, and when my PS3 (60 GB) broke down with Y.L.O.D , i called up Sony and they repeatedly stuck to the answer that it was impossible to fix.
Funny though, after 10 minutes on youtube i had found video tutorials on how to fix it (Reflow Method) !
After an investment on £20 worth of kit, i had fixed my PS3 the next day!
and its still going strong After 6 Months ! =D
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29. September 2009 @ 13:56 |
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Originally posted by pphoenix:
12,500 dead PS3's is down to THE YELLOW RING OF DEATH FAIL RATE not this new firmware damage.
those fail rates have yet to be added to the overall numbers of dead consoles.
Sony admitted that "12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007."
so fail rate for sony firmware is not yet available but it will be on top of the 12,500 that have already bricked in the UK.
If you have a damaged PS3 which is outside the limited 1 year warranty Sony will fix you console for you, for £128, they will only give you 3 months warranty on this REFURBISHED unit.
The firmware update that is causing problems to some of the PS3 owners is not concidered a Failure by Sony, Microsoft or Nentendo. It does not add to the Failure rate. This firmware update is not Bricking consoles. 2.something update did Brick some PS3 consoles and thoes are considered Failures. This update, which fixed some problems with 3.00 has created some new bugs for some PS3 oners.
A firmware update like this that can be corrected will not be counted by any of the console manufacturers as a Failure. Does it piss PS3 oners off with this problem? Yes. Can it be fixed with a new firmware update? Yes. 3.01 is not bricking consoles. I hope this clears this up for you.
As far as your unrelated remark about the Warranty. That is true. Just like the xbox 360 warranty. MS's 3 year warranty only covers the RROD and error47?. It covers nothing else. If you send your 360 or Wii in, you will get a refurbished console at a cost. Not a new one. I hope this clears this up for you.
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29. September 2009 @ 16:17 |
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Originally posted by ammad123:
Aye Sony do fix it for £128, and when my PS3 (60 GB) broke down with Y.L.O.D , i called up Sony and they repeatedly stuck to the answer that it was impossible to fix.
Funny though, after 10 minutes on youtube i had found video tutorials on how to fix it (Reflow Method) !
After an investment on £20 worth of kit, i had fixed my PS3 the next day!
and its still going strong After 6 Months ! =D
That HAS to be a lie. YLoD is a generic component failure, not anything specific (though there are more likely and less likely candidates)...they COULDN'T know it's "impossible to fix" unless a technician actually looked at it.
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29. September 2009 @ 16:46 |
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Originally posted by ammad123:
Aye Sony do fix it for £128, and when my PS3 (60 GB) broke down with Y.L.O.D , i called up Sony and they repeatedly stuck to the answer that it was impossible to fix.
Funny though, after 10 minutes on youtube i had found video tutorials on how to fix it (Reflow Method) !
After an investment on £20 worth of kit, i had fixed my PS3 the next day!
and its still going strong After 6 Months ! =D
That HAS to be a lie. YLoD is a generic component failure, not anything specific (though there are more likely and less likely candidates)...they COULDN'T know it's "impossible to fix" unless a technician actually looked at it.
2nd that.
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My philosophy with updates, wait until other people have problems and they get fixed :P all of my systems are at least 2 updates backs.
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29. September 2009 @ 19:01 |
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Originally posted by ammad123:
Aye Sony do fix it for £128, and when my PS3 (60 GB) broke down with Y.L.O.D , i called up Sony and they repeatedly stuck to the answer that it was impossible to fix.
Funny though, after 10 minutes on youtube i had found video tutorials on how to fix it (Reflow Method) !
After an investment on £20 worth of kit, i had fixed my PS3 the next day!
and its still going strong After 6 Months ! =D
That HAS to be a lie. YLoD is a generic component failure, not anything specific (though there are more likely and less likely candidates)...they COULDN'T know it's "impossible to fix" unless a technician actually looked at it.
2nd that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70SgRDVcBo
Follow this series and it CLEARY SHOWS A FIX FOR YLOD ! MY PLAYSTATION 3 is living testament! And the women on the phone consistently kept denying this was something they could fix !
Bloody hell!
DO Your research accurately Please and consider all aspects and solutions of problems before attacking my post as A LIE !
THE MOST likely candidate and almost certainly is the problem that is Easily fixed through the re-flow method! and i'm just telling you what sony told me! "i'm sorry sir, we cannot offer a fix to this problem, however, we will replace your system for £128 plus VAT"
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(Heres the Kit i bought !!!)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-5-3-...id=p3286.c0.m14
I LOVE my PS3, and hated sony for being such pathetic morons,if you want something done right, do it yourself as i say !
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29. September 2009 @ 19:10 |
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Originally posted by pphoenix:
12,500 dead PS3's is down to THE YELLOW RING OF DEATH FAIL RATE not this new firmware damage.
those fail rates have yet to be added to the overall numbers of dead consoles.
Sony admitted that "12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007."
so fail rate for sony firmware is not yet available but it will be on top of the 12,500 that have already bricked in the UK.
If you have a damaged PS3 which is outside the limited 1 year warranty Sony will fix you console for you, for £128, they will only give you 3 months warranty on this REFURBISHED unit.
So let me get this straight ~
In your first reply you talk about Watchdog's piece about YLOD and say
Originally posted by pphoenix:
by Sony's own admission, around 12,500 of the 2.5 million PlayStations sold in the UK have shut down in this way since March 2007.
Sony repeatedly refuses to release the failure rate for that model, claiming that the information is "commercially sensitive".
Which is referring to the 60GB model yet when I question it's validity & percentages you now "mysteriously" change your stance to some other topic about the firmware bricking percentages (which is the actual forum topic) when you where implying something else from the start!?!?....What's it going to be next then? Because the way I see it, the "cherry picking" is mainly coming from you.
But in all honestly it doesn't matter. I just find it funny how you always so quick and "loud" to throw specifically Sony under a bus CONSTANTLY but are not so quick to do the same for MS? And as far as your comment ~
Originally posted by pphoenix:
just w8 for the sony afterdawn bloggers (Public relations paid liars)to say stuff like "well microsoft/apple/hp/ect did it first", or "they do it so why cant we" bull crud.
Quit it. Seriously. It's getting old. Stick to the topic at hand and stop going off of your own (and others) unfounded, baseless ASSUMPTIONS with NO PROOF...again, I don't see you talking about how Microsoft ACTUALLY got busted doing this just the other day over at GAF ~ http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/09/28/infa...ks-for-turn-10/
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