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Microsoft released free anti-virus software
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article published on 1 October, 2009
Earlier this week, Microsoft officially made its free anti-virus software available for download after being beta tested for some time. Microsoft Security Essentials provides real-time protection for your home PC that guards against viruses, spyware, and other malicious software. It updates daily to ensure that it keeps its database up-to-date with the latest virus and other malware threats.
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xnonsuchx
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1. October 2009 @ 01:06 |
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I wonder if it'll rank better than 43rd among other anti-virus software like their last attempt did? You'd THINK the maker of an OS would know how to clean it up the best, right???
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Amak
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1. October 2009 @ 01:52 |
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
I wonder if it'll rank better than 43rd among other anti-virus software like their last attempt did? You'd THINK the maker of an OS would know how to clean it up the best, right???
Just because they can make the OS does NOT mean they can undo what malicious code does.
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1. October 2009 @ 04:44 |
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Problems that they face is everyone expects this to solve every viral code problem on Windows because they produced it. Wrong...it would take months if not years to try and correct these problems but even if they started that, Malicious code would have found more and more ways to access it. Its only made from currently existing technology.. No biggie in my case... ill stick with Kaspersky for now...
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xnonsuchx
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1. October 2009 @ 07:05 |
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
I wonder if it'll rank better than 43rd among other anti-virus software like their last attempt did? You'd THINK the maker of an OS would know how to clean it up the best, right???
Just because they can make the OS does NOT mean they can undo what malicious code does.
Are there any other points you can completely misrepresent???
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rakych
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1. October 2009 @ 07:44 |
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Here is a question for everyone. Just like Gator paid Microsoft not to detect its spyware, who else has paid Microsoft so that they won't be detected as well. We all know that anything that is free is not really free.
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Gnawnivek
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1. October 2009 @ 09:08 |
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It's free right? So what's not to like? Just because it's coming from MS?
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1. October 2009 @ 09:29 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
It's free right? So what's not to like? Just because it's coming from MS?
That in itself is the best reason not to like it (or want it)!
You really want to rely on a company who produces inherently insecure systems, supplies critical security updates on a regular basis to keep your PC secure??
I certainly wouldn't. I'll stick to the tried and tested paid for security which has protected me for years.
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atomicxl
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1. October 2009 @ 09:36 |
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I'm getting a bit tired of all the multicolor pop ups that Avast gives me so I might try this out. Not surprised that MS gives out free anti-virus software and the AfterDawn community response is extreme disgust and hatred.
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mikecUSA
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1. October 2009 @ 09:39 |
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Yeah, the people who brought you phonehomeWGA aren't going to hide some nasty little things in there that will A) give them sneak and peak powers B) give the FED sneak and peak powers, or C) the power to ciompletely disable the functionality of your PC should they detect some kind of MODification to their or someone elses software of hardware. Don't trust this, is the only advice I can give. Be wary of know racketeers bearing "gifts".
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1. October 2009 @ 10:01 |
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i just bought a mac
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1. October 2009 @ 10:24 |
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This isn't the first time Microsoft has released a free "security" suite...and it won't be the last. Windows 7 comes with a firewall and a spy ware scanner...yet you still need a firewall and a spy ware scanner from someone else because these tools don't work. Now they want to add a virus scanner...when they can't even make a working spy ware scanner?
I think this is to take on anti-virus companies like McAfee and Symantec...both of these companies sell terrible, unreliable software that will let detected viruses infect system files (and tell you about it later). They do this while sapping performance and manifesting many of the traits of spy ware, such as browser bars and intentionally broken uninstallers. Anyone ignorant enough to trust one of these would also be ignorant enough to trust the Microsoft tool...and they probably have AOL too.
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Renfraus
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1. October 2009 @ 11:44 |
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Does anyone know if M$ new AV is based on RAV? RAV was an excellent AV that I used to use until M$ bought them out and shut them down.
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bigdawg71
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1. October 2009 @ 13:00 |
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
I'm getting a bit tired of all the multicolor pop ups that Avast gives me so I might try this out. Not surprised that MS gives out free anti-virus software and the AfterDawn community response is extreme disgust and hatred.
Atomicxl i have avast and i dont get any pop ups do u have any anti spyware program on your computer?
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Mez
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1. October 2009 @ 13:56 |
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atomicxl, you you think the M$ hate is unwarrented?
They are not at all trustworthy and I think most of their products produced this century are way off the mark, with the possible exception to W7. I would say they have the most bold faced liars than any other corporation in the world. They assume everyone is a moron. I feel that is insulting.
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scorpNZ
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1. October 2009 @ 14:26 |
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The biggest windows security risk is the user,no amount of security ware can protect the OS from you,followed by 3rd party software including so called security software
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Mez
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1. October 2009 @ 14:44 |
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scorpNZ,
I am more interested in just protecting my computer from a virus is that such a wierd request?
Personally, I feel software that tries to protect me from me is infuriating. 99.9% of the time the software gets it wrong.
We always have to worry about stupid mistakes made by us or others especially when we are behind the wheel. Why should the computer be different?
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scorpNZ
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1. October 2009 @ 15:35 |
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lmao...it wasn't directed at you in particular tho it may have seemed like it,i mentioned user first then the word "you" in other words the reader
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Mez
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1. October 2009 @ 17:29 |
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scorpNZ, I didn't think you were targeting me. Don't think I am ranting and raving at you, I am not.
M$ and for that matter Apple, have earned a large following that hate their guts. I for one do not hate them enough not to buy a product that I needed but I am far from a fan boy.
A am more than fed up with a industry that really doesn't give a rats ass about the quality of their product they hope countless pointless features my confuse the user enough that they forget the basic features do not work well. I resent that Vista tries to hide how much free space you have on your hard disk. WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS THAT!!!??? On all previous versions it was prominently posted by defualt as it should be. My son has a Vista computer. He loaded a DVD full of mp3s to play 1. Without asking, Vista decided that it would load all the tunes into the media player library unfortunately there wasn't enough room on the computer, so the computer died. I would like to have a 1 on 1 with the M$ manager of that project. He would have blood coming out his ass after I was done with him! There were half dozen inexcusable errors that took place. The first is, the kid had no idea he was running out of hard disk space.
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1. October 2009 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by bam431:
i just bought a mac
GET THE F**K OUT OF MY THREAD!
:P joke :D
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1. October 2009 @ 18:09 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
It's free right? So what's not to like? Just because it's coming from MS?
That in itself is the best reason not to like it (or want it)!
You really want to rely on a company who produces inherently insecure systems, supplies critical security updates on a regular basis to keep your PC secure??
I certainly wouldn't. I'll stick to the tried and tested paid for security which has protected me for years.
MacOS releases regular security updates too. Hundreds of MBs of Security updates so does that mean MacOS is inherently insecure too? Microsoft Security Essentials tested well against the competition and is based off of their Forefront security Suite which has more features and is a paid suite. Microsoft has made great improvements to their OS and security and Vista and Win7 have proven to be much more secure than its predecessor. Of course people complained about the security improvements such as UAC prompting for changes to the system and many people disabled it leaving their system at more risk. Your impression of Windows being inherently insecure is just an opinion based on the amount of Malware out for Windows. The reason there is a lot of Malware out is because of Windows popularity and the fact that it is installed on over 80% of the worlds computers so the malware writers go after the majority. Tests have shown that under attack and not protected MacOS falls faster than Windows does and it is that no one cares to attack an OS that has 6% of the worlds market share.
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1. October 2009 @ 18:10 |
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Originally posted by bam431:
i just bought a mac
Yeah and I have had people tell me they did the same and installed windows on their Mac with no protection. Brings it back to the end user being the primary cause of their systems being insecure.
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1. October 2009 @ 20:38 |
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Ah Microsoft... lol.
I'll try it out. But I'll most like stick with AVG.
And these people saying Macs are more secure? That's like saying Linux is more secure. It's not. It's been proven that Linux/Mac are easier to hack than Windows. It's just that Windows OS's account for about 90% (give or take) of computers. So why would someone make a virus to infect the 2% linux users? or the 8% Mac users?
And I'm surprised to see ANYONE on After dawn using Kaspersky. When I tried it, it had ALOT of false positives. But to each their own i guess.
And to scorpNZ
I agree with you. 100%. People should kinda be able to figure out what is a virus and what isn't before they download. And not go to shady sites. It's pretty common sense. Like for example. My friend called me over cause he had a virus. And I asked what he downloaded right before he got it.... He said "CS4 but it didn't work" and i asked to see the file.... at was like a 50kb file....
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2. October 2009 @ 00:56 |
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I Been beta testing this software since June it has cleaned flawelessly every pc that has come to me for repair. I usually use AVG and Malwarebytes but surprise surprise this really does work and low system drain its a straight forward simple av like a throwback from before bloat ware and that is strange coming from MS. Try it before you say its sux.
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2. October 2009 @ 04:34 |
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The term "what you dont know cant hurt you" comes to mind when you say that it cleans flawlessly. if you can prove that it has cleaned it flawlessly then i would happily give you my company.
i can guarantee that something will be lying in wait for that machine.
But i know damn well it didnt clean it flawlessly... there were probably cookies and other minor threats on your machines compared to rootkits and other malicious code.
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2. October 2009 @ 06:21 |
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Well don't take the word flawlessly so literally and I can tell u when I ran Malwarebytes afterwards it found no threats nor did Avg. I also found PC Advisor UK ranked it 4th in free av software but that review is from the beta. I have not gotten any infections myself and I often have to hook up the Hard drives from infected pc's to my pc just to back up and save pics and docs it caught the threats as I moved files from one hd to my own for backing up sometimes a pc can be so infected I literally can't boot it up and have to back up and save what is salvageable before reformatting. It passes the Eicar test and some game cheats sites I use it found and stopped a drive by download Avg never caught. All I am saying is give it a try its free you can always go back to what you were using. I also use SpywareBlaster & SpyGuardian but the only Firewall I use is the Windows Vista firewall and it passes Gibson Research tests.
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