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Microsoft finishes up Win 7's XP Mode
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article published on 2 October, 2009
Microsoft Corp. has released the final Windows 7 XP Mode software to manufacturing, and will offer it for download later this month from its website. The Windows 7 virtualization tool is offered to provide incentive for businesses to upgrade to Microsoft's new operating system when it is released later in October.
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plazma247
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2. October 2009 @ 03:53 |
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Can you say MS virtual PC ... come on microsoft been doing that for ages.
How about enabling Direct X compatibility under virtual PC instead of spending your time bolting it onto the back of the OS.
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2. October 2009 @ 06:02 |
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Originally posted by plazma247:
Can you say MS virtual PC ... come on microsoft been doing that for ages.
That's what I thought at first, but it is not like virtual PC. It is much more integrated with the rest of the GUI that virtual PC ever was...no more pressing ATL+TAB to move your mouse off of it or any of that crap. There is no DirectX support because XP mode is not designed for gaming/graphics/etc...it is designed for proprietary business apps that were writen for Windows 95. These are typicaly text-based...or with very basic GUI's that could never benifit from DirectX support.
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2. October 2009 @ 08:12 |
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It requires an extra gigabyte of RAM, 15GB disk space and virtualization features must be present in hardware and activation in BIOS.
That doesn't sound to good. Activation in bios? Sounds like MS are basically saying, its going to be a hassle for you, more ram more HDD space and messing with your bios, ah just use our new equivalent of whatever old product your using it only costs blah blah blah to buy and you must give us your money.
With many business's not migrating to vista, I can also see not many migrating to 7 either. But when support is dropped from XP this will make some business's panic and force them into spending money to do something that their old system is still capable of doing.
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2. October 2009 @ 10:56 |
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Windows XP was released October 25th, 2001. It's almost 8 years old. To me it still performs like a brand new couple year old OS. I'm so happy with it and see no reason to spend to upgrade to Windows 7.
Seems like Windows 7's release date could be the same as Windows XP's if a delay occurs.
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windsong
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2. October 2009 @ 13:53 |
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Windows7 is windows Vista with service pack 3. If you didnt like Vista, you wont like W7.
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2. October 2009 @ 14:01 |
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Unless your motherboard supports "virtualization" this is worthless. Many people still using XP probably don't have the latest motherboards that can handle this feature. Might as will use virtualbox or something easier. If it worked on all motherboards then it would be beneficial for everybody to upgrade.
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elitepunk
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2. October 2009 @ 14:07 |
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what a bunch a carksuckerz eh? i don't need no win7. sheeeit, windows xpsp2 4 life.
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2. October 2009 @ 14:52 |
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I use 7 RTM 64-bit and it's the best OS yet. I run all games, audio editing software and everything else on it FLAWLESSLY. The only program that doesn't work (because it's not available yet) is Peerguardian 2 and I run that with Utorrent/Limewire on XP Mode. Oh, and Symantec EndPoint DOES WORK. The firewall doesn't but the AV does work awesome. No biggie because real network professionals don't need a latest and greatest FW if you're network/computer are properly configured and locked down.
I'm a network manager and engineer and trust me when I say this OS is what MS should have engaged long ago. It's fantastic and XP mode is great. As a previous user stated, it's integrated with the OS and not just a "virtual PC". Though it does use Vir PC...............it's a bit different. I only use that like 2% of the time. My PC shuts down and restarts in less than 60 seconds and if I'm just starting it from a shutdown state, it takes less than 30 seconds. I love using it.
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LissenUp
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2. October 2009 @ 14:58 |
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It requires an extra gigabyte of RAM, 15GB disk space and virtualization features must be present in hardware and activation in BIOS.
That doesn't sound to good. Activation in bios? Sounds like MS are basically saying, its going to be a hassle for you, more ram more HDD space and messing with your bios, ah just use our new equivalent of whatever old product your using it only costs blah blah blah to buy and you must give us your money.
With many business's not migrating to vista, I can also see not many migrating to 7 either. But when support is dropped from XP this will make some business's panic and force them into spending money to do something that their old system is still capable of doing.
Oh man...............your title says your a "member" and maybe that's exactly what you are for making this comment.
Virtualization needs to be enabled in the BIOS ALWAYS. Same with servers pal. No Hyper-V can be used in Server 2008 unless you have virtualization enabled. Newbies learn something new every day......Thank GOD.
As for sticking with XP...................GO AHEAD!! Stop whining and recognize XP has been out since 2001. It's played, it's done, it's boring and frankly avid computer users love new tech. You wanna stick with XP then fine..........stay in the dark ages and remain a shmo. The rest of us will have fun with new stuff while you just keep complacently "computing on the brink of extinction".
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2. October 2009 @ 15:01 |
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Originally posted by elitepunk:
what a bunch a carksuckerz eh? i don't need no win7. sheeeit, windows xpsp2 4 life.
Your screen name says it all...............PUNK. "XP4Life"...........sheesh, get a clue my young little naive computer user.
Perhaps you will continue using the same toothbrush for life too. HA HA HA
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LissenUp
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2. October 2009 @ 15:06 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Windows XP was released October 25th, 2001. It's almost 8 years old. To me it still performs like a brand new couple year old OS. I'm so happy with it and see no reason to spend to upgrade to Windows 7.
Seems like Windows 7's release date could be the same as Windows XP's if a delay occurs.
I use it now...............it's ready. Trust me, there will be no delay. Besides, that is a fairly lame comment considering that the RTM is available. Best OS. MS could only F up so many times before getting it right.................that they did this time.
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2. October 2009 @ 15:15 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
Windows7 is windows Vista with service pack 3. If you didnt like Vista, you wont like W7.
Dumbest comment I've heard EVER. "7 is Vista with SP3"???????????????
Please keep the ignorance to yourself as it depresses me because it seems to be contagious all over the world. Stop, think, and listen.
It's better than Vista, lighter than Vista, faster than Vista and much more feature rich than Vista. Just because there is still a little round circle on the start menu that no longer says "START" and just because you can still search on the start menu, doesn't make it Vista with SP3. It starts 75% quicker as well as shuts down. It populates the "Programs and features" 80% quicker. Task bar is redesigned and MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. I used Vista Ult 4 separate times in hopes that SP1, SP2 and other changes would address the issues and Vista was the biggest flop and nightmare since Windows ME. You definitely aren't an avid computer user and certainly not doing any professional computer work like Network Manager, Admin, Engineer. Maybe..........just maybe, you're a help desk answering phones.
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2. October 2009 @ 15:25 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Windows XP was released October 25th, 2001. It's almost 8 years old. To me it still performs like a brand new couple year old OS. I'm so happy with it and see no reason to spend to upgrade to Windows 7.
Seems like Windows 7's release date could be the same as Windows XP's if a delay occurs.
I use it now...............it's ready. Trust me, there will be no delay. Besides, that is a fairly lame comment considering that the RTM is available. Best OS. MS could only F up so many times before getting it right.................that they did this time.
I like XP because everything works. There is no need for a compatibility mode and I can run it on any old system and use it perfectly fine.
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LissenUp
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2. October 2009 @ 15:56 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Windows XP was released October 25th, 2001. It's almost 8 years old. To me it still performs like a brand new couple year old OS. I'm so happy with it and see no reason to spend to upgrade to Windows 7.
Seems like Windows 7's release date could be the same as Windows XP's if a delay occurs.
I use it now...............it's ready. Trust me, there will be no delay. Besides, that is a fairly lame comment considering that the RTM is available. Best OS. MS could only F up so many times before getting it right.................that they did this time.
I like XP because everything works. There is no need for a compatibility mode and I can run it on any old system and use it perfectly fine.
As I already stated.........I use the 64-bit RTM of Windows 7 Ultimate. There is NOTHING that doesn't work on it. NOTHING except Peerguardian 2 and that's because they haven't made one for 7 yet. Right now I have Symantec Endpoint, Soundforge 10, Google Earth, Daemon tools, Firefox 64-bit (Shiretoko), Quicktime, Roxio Creator 2009, Google Earth, Steam (Tombraider 8, FEAR 2, Dead Space, Street Fighter 4, Left 4 Dead and several more running flawlessly. I highly recommend that if you get the chance to obtain a free (hooked-up) copy of 64-bit Windows 7...............install it and you absolutely won't regret it. I promise. I have connections to MSDN and get this stuff immediately for free once it's out and this OS release was all the worth it.
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2. October 2009 @ 16:05 |
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Where the hell is the "Report an offensive post" link??!! ---Chikn
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2. October 2009 @ 16:07 |
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Originally posted by ChiknLitl:
Where the hell is the "Report an offensive post" link??!! ---Chikn
It doesn't show up unless you browser the news articles via the forum, under "News Discussion".
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2. October 2009 @ 16:13 |
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Originally posted by LissenUp:
As I already stated.........I use the 64-bit RTM of Windows 7 Ultimate....except Peerguardian 2 and that's because they haven't made one for 7 yet.
Check out PeerBlock, it's a "fork" for PeerGuardian that is now being worked on and maintained. They recently bought a signed driver so you can install it on the 64-bit OSes without a problem.
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ddp
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2. October 2009 @ 16:17 |
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LissenUp, next time edit your previous post if nobody posts after you as per forum rules. post padding is NOT tolerated on this site & you just posted 5 in a row. also knockoff the member attacks as you will be banned for that newbie!
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Windows XP was released October 25th, 2001. It's almost 8 years old. To me it still performs like a brand new couple year old OS. I'm so happy with it and see no reason to spend to upgrade to Windows 7.
Seems like Windows 7's release date could be the same as Windows XP's if a delay occurs.
I use it now...............it's ready. Trust me, there will be no delay. Besides, that is a fairly lame comment considering that the RTM is available. Best OS. MS could only F up so many times before getting it right.................that they did this time.
I like XP because everything works. There is no need for a compatibility mode and I can run it on any old system and use it perfectly fine.
As I already stated.........I use the 64-bit RTM of Windows 7 Ultimate. There is NOTHING that doesn't work on it. NOTHING except Peerguardian 2 and that's because they haven't made one for 7 yet. Right now I have Symantec Endpoint, Soundforge 10, Google Earth, Daemon tools, Firefox 64-bit (Shiretoko), Quicktime, Roxio Creator 2009, Google Earth, Steam (Tombraider 8, FEAR 2, Dead Space, Street Fighter 4, Left 4 Dead and several more running flawlessly. I highly recommend that if you get the chance to obtain a free (hooked-up) copy of 64-bit Windows 7...............install it and you absolutely won't regret it. I promise. I have connections to MSDN and get this stuff immediately for free once it's out and this OS release was all the worth it.
The last time I checked:
-DOS games don't work properly
-Alcohol 52%/120%
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas (Didn't work in Vista)
-ATI Radeon Software for x1400 (My notebook battery life was about an hour in Windows 7, 3 hours in XP
This is a huge setback for me
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2. October 2009 @ 17:10 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
The last time I checked:
-DOS games don't work properly
-Alcohol 52%/120%
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas (Didn't work in Vista)
-ATI Radeon Software for x1400 (My notebook battery life was about an hour in Windows 7, 3 hours in XP
This is a huge setback for me
Daemon Tools is a good alternative to Alcohol 120% and it works perfectly fine on my laptop which is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.
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Amak
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2. October 2009 @ 17:45 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
Windows7 is windows Vista with service pack 3. If you didnt like Vista, you wont like W7.
Dumbest comment I've heard EVER. "7 is Vista with SP3"???????????????
Please keep the ignorance to yourself as it depresses me because it seems to be contagious all over the world. Stop, think, and listen.
It's better than Vista, lighter than Vista, faster than Vista and much more feature rich than Vista. Just because there is still a little round circle on the start menu that no longer says "START" and just because you can still search on the start menu, doesn't make it Vista with SP3. It starts 75% quicker as well as shuts down. It populates the "Programs and features" 80% quicker. Task bar is redesigned and MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. I used Vista Ult 4 separate times in hopes that SP1, SP2 and other changes would address the issues and Vista was the biggest flop and nightmare since Windows ME. You definitely aren't an avid computer user and certainly not doing any professional computer work like Network Manager, Admin, Engineer. Maybe..........just maybe, you're a help desk answering phones.
Windows 7 seems to be an overhauled Vista. Vista wasn't that bad, just that most people were trying to run it on PCs that could never do so. I had no trouble with it and to this day can't figure out what people were whining about.
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joe777
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2. October 2009 @ 17:48 |
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@ LissenUp I am a fan of *nix and seldom use MS products, only for sound production as my DAW will not function on any *nix OS.
After reading your posts I dont beleive for 1 minute you are a software engineer and a netwerk pro.
The software list you stated is, for me personally, a joke. Symantec, roxio, peer guardian( which is as good as a concrete parashute or a chocholate fire guard) you also use limewire? and after you admit to using this software you accuse me of being a noob? And hey you dont nead a firewall to control whats leaving your box? Yeah real netwerk admins will agree with you, he he he he.
Oh me, AD is filled with strange people today.
Oh and by the way theres no need to be so rude with me, I always jump on the MS threads to say how sh*t their products really are.
If ever theres a topic saying MS are releasing all the source and wish all the users the best using it I will sing their praise for you.
Oh and what audio editor software do you use? Something to mp3 pro No7:P
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2. October 2009 @ 17:53 |
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Meh, everything still runs slower in Vista/7 than it does in XP. So there really is no need for me to upgrade, until support is dropped in 2014. Though I should have a much beefed up PC by then, and Windows 8 might be released by then as well :)
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2. October 2009 @ 18:11 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
Windows7 is windows Vista with service pack 3. If you didnt like Vista, you wont like W7.
Hehe; i deliberately avoided Vista but love Win7 :) (and XP too, plenty of years left in XP yet, on some of my machines anyways).
LissenUp - who rattled your cage ?. Way to go to annoy everybody in the thread. Unnecessary comments/rants like yours give Admins (in my case Unix, not that it matters a kipper here) a bad name. Your comments come across like a teenager with something to prove. As per ddp's comments, knock it off already.
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LissenUp
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2. October 2009 @ 18:36 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
LissenUp, next time edit your previous post if nobody posts after you as per forum rules. post padding is NOT tolerated on this site & you just posted 5 in a row. also knockoff the member attacks as you will be banned for that newbie!
Ok.........first........I'm not a newbie. I've been posting on here for 5 years and unfortunately it's like a Disney movie on this site. AD moderators whine about anything offensive or critical no matter how minute it is and find other things to senselessly and needlessly whine about like padding. I just keep getting banned for calling out stupid remarks and comments WHEN THEY SHOULD BE CALLED OUT.
Second, I did NOT violate padding. I merely commented on SEVERAL SEPARATE postings and they all related separately. I don't know how the Fins think but when Americans have something to say about 5 separate posts............WE COMMENT ON THEM. How ridiculous can you be to slam someone for not waiting until another comments on my comment? Get a clue and be reasonable.............and that is not an insult, it's simply a reasonable statement in response to your comment.
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