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Man arrested for brandishing gun, threatens his iPhone
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article published on 4 October, 2009
In one of what has to be one of the funniest tech related articles of the week, Donald Goodrich of Ohio was arrested on Friday for brandishing a gun at his local Apple Store, while threatening to shoot his iPhone because it was not working.
Goodrich walked into the store in Cincinnati, Ohio, walked up to the Genius Bar, and began yelling "I'm so mad, I could pop a 9mm at [my iPhone]." ... [ read the full article ]
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8. October 2009 @ 13:52 |
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Luckily here in the UK we don't get arrested for brandishing non-Apple products, i for one keep my gadgets hidden out of sight, though far too many people (who buy Apple products) don't like to conceal them as they need everyone else to see their purchases.
I won't comment much on guns, suffice it to say that one of the only redeeming qualities of this country is the sheer lack of guns, the only people who carry them here are police, army, farmers and criminals, though there's many other ways to threaten an iPhone.
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8. October 2009 @ 13:59 |
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Yesterday I heard a crazy statistic- there are 2.3 million people in prison in the USA today. I think this Iphone story proves that easy access to guns makes people *bleep* insane!
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8. October 2009 @ 14:11 |
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Originally posted by laguna_b:
All those dangerous and scared people out there who believe that carrying deadly weapon makes them safer REALLY scare me! Somehow I have managed to make it SAFELY to 62 years old w/o having to carry, brandish or use a fire arm against ANYONE.
This story clearly shows why people SHOULD NOT be allowed to carry a weapon, concealed or otherwise. What LUNACY my fellow Americans show to the world like little school children with their play guns! Grow up! 50,000 people DIE each year in this crazed country because of massive fire arms out there....NO ONE IS SAFER because of it.
This is where you are completely wrong! We had an immigrant acquire some guns illegally and enter a shopping mall here in Salt Lake city. An off duty cop eating dinner with his wife in a restaurant in the mall came to the rescue. He saved lives cause he always carries a gun with him. I've read other stories as well including a high school teacher who ran out to his car to get his gun to stop a student who was shooting kids at school. Another was a person who carried a gun and stopped a madman who came to kill people during church services. You don't need a gun to kill or to be crazy, but carrying a gun for self defense evens the odds.
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8. October 2009 @ 14:12 |
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whatname - let's watch the language in future.
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8. October 2009 @ 15:35 |
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Sadly, the government has made laws to prevent this threat by banning automatic weapons for civilians (at least for civilians that are not rich). The military is well trained, brainwashed, and heavily armed with everything they could want. An uprising of a majority of the people could easily be put down by a military controled by a president that rigged an election.
not entirely true you could do some National Guard or any Military Branch service and apply for your Class 3 license or have a veteran buy your gun for you.
Also i Prefer Semi Auto Weapons for there stopping power and accuracy. as for Civilian Carbines with a few tweaks and receiver mods they to can be made full auto. the G3 was the most common to be converted.
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8. October 2009 @ 15:57 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
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Sadly, the government has made laws to prevent this threat by banning automatic weapons for civilians (at least for civilians that are not rich). The military is well trained, brainwashed, and heavily armed with everything they could want. An uprising of a majority of the people could easily be put down by a military controled by a president that rigged an election.
not entirely true you could do some National Guard or any Military Branch service and apply for your Class 3 license or have a veteran buy your gun for you.
Also i Prefer Semi Auto Weapons for there stopping power and accuracy. as for Civilian Carbines with a few tweaks and receiver mods they to can be made full auto. the G3 was the most common to be converted.
The early models of the PS90's where easily "moddable" as well...hell ANY Glock can be made fully auto with a mere piece of metal stock made into a back plate with a "finger" to make contact at the right "time"! <3's my G19C
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9. October 2009 @ 23:47 |
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Originally posted by zenno:
ONLY IN AMERICA.
Yup!!!
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12. October 2009 @ 01:34 |
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Originally posted by jony218:
The people working at the counter over-reacted probably a recent immigrant who doesn't know our customs. If anything they should have arrested the Iphone for giving the man such problems. He was not brandishing a gun. Brandish = verb, to wave around in a threatening manner. Everyone is overlooking the bigger problem here, "the overpriced iphone poor performance". The "gun" was just an innocent bystander in this whole fiasco, hopefully it wasn't too traumatized.
Overlooking the bigger problem is right.
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Goodrich did have a permit for a concealed weapon, so he was charged with aggravated menacing, as a number of employees and customers said they felt threatened by Goodrich's tirade.
He'll get nothing for that. Threatened a store full of people (crazy dude, would you feel safe if someone pulled a gun?)
I'm from Aus, and I agree that extremely tight gun laws do nothing to stop criminals. It's not as if they got the guns legally in the first place anyway. =P But I disagree that everyone should be allowed to get a gun, and to have a concealed carry permit.
@alexeemo
All of the cases you described could have been prevented by tougher restrictions on guns. Anarchy all the way, but sometimes the restrictions can help out. How did the student get the gun to shoot up the school? At least here in Aus, the gun would actually have to be secured, not just left out in the open.
Concealed carry permits actually encourage "higher degree" crime. Think of it like this, in Aus, knives of any kind and guns are banned, if someone gets held up, criminal knows they don't have any methods of self defence available so rely more on threats. They don't need anything else.
In USA, concealed carry means anyone and everyone could well be holding a gun, criminal is going to be a hella lot more twitchy if s/he thinks you're going to pull a gun on them. "Accidents" are a lot more likely. Or just look at all the cases where even slightly more tougher restrictions could have prevented mass murder. A 15 year old student should not under any circumstances be able to get their hands on an automatic. That's just insane.
And for all you americans going on about rights.. Again, Aussie here, I'm not aware of any rights I have constitutionally except possibly the right to own property.. Stop whinging about a politician trying to stop you from getting your hands on army issue weaponry and be grateful you can get away with anything. Go swear at a police officer then plead "freedom of speech". Most places have a lot less leeway for retards to play with.
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12. October 2009 @ 05:00 |
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What people fail to realize is that the criminals will always have guns or some form of weaponry.
i really couldn't care less if wars where still fought with muskets and bows since they are not i will not be expected to be limited to those weapons. don't blame the civilians for wanting an automatic blame the government for creating the contraption in the first place.
as for Aussies not having any guns that has got to be the deepest BS ever.
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12. October 2009 @ 06:48 |
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Guns are not bad...people are bad. Guns are just tools, used for good and evil based on the desires of their owners.
They say there is aproximately 1 gun for every 12 people on earth. This means that 1/24 of the world population (or just over 50% of gun owners) can forcably impose their will on the other 23/24. This has resulted in every kind of violence immaginable, and will continue to do so. There are far too many guns in the world for this to be fixed via gun prohibition; the advantage given by a firearm can only be neutralized by another firearm. This is not like a bat, knife, or a punch, where effectivness varies by the individual, a bullet works the same no matter who pulls the trigger...arm the other 11 people and there will be a short period of bloodshed where the most violent people kill eachother off, followed by a severe drop in violence of all kinds.
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12. October 2009 @ 15:06 |
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@DXR88
lol ya. Criminals will always have guns, with gun control you eliminate the drunks, people having a tantrum, etc. Think most publicity (school, mall, etc) shootings, boy/girl friend/ husband/wife who thinks the other is cheating, etc. It definitely doesn't eliminate all shootings, just the majority of crime that without guns, most likely wouldn't result in a fatality in the first place.
Aussie gun prohibition is just plain stupid. I like how there was mass shootings last year.. All the excuses the government used for guns look so fake right now. =P Need a license to play paintball, airsoft guns are completely illegal, etc. I'm not recommending that at all. That's just silly. lol
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Well yea, it's the persons choice to pull the trigger. The point of gun control is that the dodgy people don't get the chance to. Look at all those school shootings, those kids shouldn't have guns. No way. At least if it's harder to get the gun, note I said harder/control, not prohibition, it means that they'll have some time to calm down. Handing cash over the counter or picking up a pistol out of a drawer makes it too easy for someone having a fit to arm themselves.
And I actually don't fully agree with that statement. Guns are not bad...people are bad. Guns mean someone that stores emotion inside of them are more likely to let it out. With a knife/bat/whatever, there's a physical difficulty involved. With a gun, it becomes very easy to kill someone. I've only shot an air rifle once and an air pistol, and that just at a target shooting booth at a farmers fair. But it's not like it's hard to pull the trigger, or even to get a bulls eye. Within 20 metres anyway, longer may be more difficult. But it goes from messed up individual to messed up individual with the ability to take it out on everyone else. And it's more likely they'll take it out on someone else given the ease of doing so.
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30. October 2009 @ 01:51 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
you have the right to own a firearm licensed or not. its called the Second Amendment and rest assured our government is trying its hardest to strike that Amendment off the face of this world.
in any case you shouldn't show off a firearm. its called concealed carry for a reason (Concealed as to Hide Away). the only people that are aloud to carry a gun in open are a Uniformed Police Officer and an active Militant of the said county.
He should have his concealed license revoked for this little stunt not to harm him or take away his rights but to protect him from those evil Gun Carrying store owners. i know a few that would have scattered him all over the iPod display case if he did that in there store.
I think you are mistaken about uniformed police and military being the only people allowed to carry guns in the open. Have you ever been to Texas... or virtually any country town during hunting season?
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30. October 2009 @ 02:10 |
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Originally posted by laguna_b:
All those dangerous and scared people out there who believe that carrying deadly weapon makes them safer REALLY scare me! Somehow I have managed to make it SAFELY to 62 years old w/o having to carry, brandish or use a fire arm against ANYONE.
This story clearly shows why people SHOULD NOT be allowed to carry a weapon, concealed or otherwise. What LUNACY my fellow Americans show to the world like little school children with their play guns! Grow up! 50,000 people DIE each year in this crazed country because of massive fire arms out there....NO ONE IS SAFER because of it.
You are poorly informed. Incidents of gun related deaths are not on the rise in the USA. Only the media reports of gun related problems are on the rise. The bankrupt US Federal Government has to disarm the citizens before the New World Order can be fully implemented.
There were no guns in Stalin?s Russia where millions were executed or Hitler?s Germany where millions were executed or Mau Se Tung?s China where millions were executed. And that?s all happened during one lifetime.
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30. October 2009 @ 02:16 |
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Originally posted by jony218:
The people working at the counter over-reacted probably a recent immigrant who doesn't know our customs. If anything they should have arrested the Iphone for giving the man such problems. He was not brandishing a gun. Brandish = verb, to wave around in a threatening manner. Everyone is overlooking the bigger problem here, "the overpriced iphone poor performance". The "gun" was just an innocent bystander in this whole fiasco, hopefully it wasn't too traumatized.
Overlooking the bigger problem is right.
Originally posted by Article:
Goodrich did have a permit for a concealed weapon, so he was charged with aggravated menacing, as a number of employees and customers said they felt threatened by Goodrich's tirade.
He'll get nothing for that. Threatened a store full of people (crazy dude, would you feel safe if someone pulled a gun?)
I'm from Aus, and I agree that extremely tight gun laws do nothing to stop criminals. It's not as if they got the guns legally in the first place anyway. =P But I disagree that everyone should be allowed to get a gun, and to have a concealed carry permit.
@alexeemo
All of the cases you described could have been prevented by tougher restrictions on guns. Anarchy all the way, but sometimes the restrictions can help out. How did the student get the gun to shoot up the school? At least here in Aus, the gun would actually have to be secured, not just left out in the open.
Concealed carry permits actually encourage "higher degree" crime. Think of it like this, in Aus, knives of any kind and guns are banned, if someone gets held up, criminal knows they don't have any methods of self defence available so rely more on threats. They don't need anything else.
In USA, concealed carry means anyone and everyone could well be holding a gun, criminal is going to be a hella lot more twitchy if s/he thinks you're going to pull a gun on them. "Accidents" are a lot more likely. Or just look at all the cases where even slightly more tougher restrictions could have prevented mass murder. A 15 year old student should not under any circumstances be able to get their hands on an automatic. That's just insane.
And for all you americans going on about rights.. Again, Aussie here, I'm not aware of any rights I have constitutionally except possibly the right to own property.. Stop whinging about a politician trying to stop you from getting your hands on army issue weaponry and be grateful you can get away with anything. Go swear at a police officer then plead "freedom of speech". Most places have a lot less leeway for retards to play with.
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30. October 2009 @ 13:49 |
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I think you are mistaken about uniformed police and military being the only people allowed to carry guns in the open. Have you ever been to Texas... or virtually any country town during hunting season?
i was referring to a Side Arm, Most officers don't go to work with Winchester 30/30. they have a shotgun in the squad car but that is it.
buts its not like you can conceal a rifle now is it.
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