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couchlock
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19. October 2009 @ 21:01 |
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I recently burned a game that passed abgx360 verification and imgburn verification. But when I play it, the game constantly freezes. I re verified it with imgburn against the file that I burned and it came out with a bunch of errors.
I was just wondering if this sends a bad signal, the same way playing a game with an unverified or messed up iso, or if it's more like a physical disc error and won't send any bad signal?
I know I know we'll all get banned at some point but I'm still gonna try and play my cards right.
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19. October 2009 @ 21:08 |
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Nobody will be able to answer that question for certain, but I think it would be unlikely because if your 360's DVD drive was on the way out, it could also produce similar symptoms. That's just speculation though.
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coorva
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19. October 2009 @ 21:14 |
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what about your other games,,will they play fine,,
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usrevenge
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19. October 2009 @ 21:17 |
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you used verbatim media right?
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couchlock
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19. October 2009 @ 21:20 |
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All my other games play fine. This one just got corrupted during the burn or something, I'm not sure.
And no, I use memorex discs but I'm gonna start using verbatim as soon as I'm done with this batch (only like 3 left)
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coorva
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19. October 2009 @ 21:57 |
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next question,,did you downloaded it or rip the disc with a xbox or kreon drive,,
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19. October 2009 @ 22:17 |
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Originally posted by couchlock:
And no, I use memorex discs
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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qwert99
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19. October 2009 @ 22:21 |
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It's a problem with your burner. Stop using your laptop or other crappy burner to burn the games.
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coorva
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19. October 2009 @ 22:24 |
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Originally posted by NDarkness:
Originally posted by couchlock:
And no, I use memorex discs
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
i use memorex discs and burn it with my LG burner at 4X speed and no problems at all,,even my hitachi reads them,,BOOOO to hitachi,,
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dred05
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21. October 2009 @ 07:00 |
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... but I'm gonna start using verbatim as soon as I'm done with this batch ...
Go only for Verbatims, they're quality is unmatched and also burn at 2,4 speed.
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21. October 2009 @ 07:31 |
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Originally posted by dred05:
and also burn at 2,4 speed.
Whoever started that rumor deserves to be kicked in the nuts.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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dred05
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22. October 2009 @ 11:09 |
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What rumour ? the Verbatims or the burn theory ..
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Whoever started that rumor deserves to be kicked in the
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qwert99
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22. October 2009 @ 11:21 |
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He meant the rumor that the best way to burn games is at 2.4x speed. That isn't true. You should burn games at whatever speed the disc is rated at.
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dred05
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23. October 2009 @ 09:45 |
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again my friend this is not true ..
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You should burn games at whatever speed the disc is rated at.
see I am no expert on this high-tech material, but I do know that it is recommended to burn a DVD Dual Layer disc at the slowest possible speed namely 2,4 ..
this is the general consensus on the internet.
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qwert99
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23. October 2009 @ 11:14 |
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After all, 50 million screaming Elvis fans can't be wrong.
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23. October 2009 @ 15:33 |
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It depends on the quality of your DVD writer and computer. Some people's set-up are not top notch so that's why I recommend burning at 2.4X speed and not using the computer while the image is burning.
If you are able to burn at higher speeds with desirable results then by all means do so.
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23. October 2009 @ 15:45 |
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Originally posted by dred05:
see I am no expert on this high-tech material, but I do know that it is recommended to burn a DVD Dual Layer disc at the slowest possible speed namely 2,4 ..
The only reason this is recommended is because people read it in a guide and then they assume that the person who wrote that guide must know exactly what they're talking about, so they take it as fact and tell other people to do the same thing. That info then gets passed from person to person until n00bs are telling other n00bs to burn as slow as possible, even if they don't know why they're saying it.
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Questions like these usually stem from the old urban myth that slower write speeds automatically equal better compatibility with game consoles and older drives/players. The truth is: writing with extremely slow speeds on high speed media is a VERY bad idea in almost every case!
"But on other places around the Internet, I see that lower write speeds are recommended for better write quality. Why do they say that?"
-These are nothing but outdated urban myths. The case used to be that, with lower quality drives not quite up-to-speed with the media, and with slower computers around unable to keep up with data flow, slower write speeds ensured the best quality. However, with modern computers and technology, writing is less dangerous, and some higher speeds will allow better writing than forcing lower speed.
Read the full thing here: -
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/slow-write-...no-good-247643/
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dred05
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24. October 2009 @ 15:15 |
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thanks for the link funksoulb
from the article at CDfreaks:
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Generally, for DVD media, go no faster than rated speed, or one speed selection below it. Do NOT go lower than half the rated speed for DVD media, unless specifically required for successful writing.
unless specifically required for successful writing.
see the burnspeed with the media depends not only at the quality of the burner but it also depends on the medium where it has to be used.
a game require intensive reading from the laser and it will be quicker damage if the media is burned above the slowest possible speed.
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qwert99
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24. October 2009 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by dred05:
thanks for the link funksoulb
from the article at CDfreaks:
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Generally, for DVD media, go no faster than rated speed, or one speed selection below it. Do NOT go lower than half the rated speed for DVD media, unless specifically required for successful writing.
unless specifically required for successful writing.
see the burnspeed with the media depends not only at the quality of the burner but it also depends on the medium where it has to be used.
a game require intensive reading from the laser and it will be quicker damage if the media is burned above the slowest possible speed.
What are you talking about?
Unless specifically required for successful writing = if it won't work at the speed rating of the disc, eg 8x, then burn more slowly until you get a successful burn. If the burn is successful at 8x, then it doesn't matter.
As a matter of fact, the article that you quote says quite the opposite of what you assert.
"Do NOT go lower than half the rated speed for DVD media"
Those instructions seem pretty clear to me to NOT burn at 2.4x if the media is rated at 8x.
But hey, keep trying to look smart by doing your best to make others look stupid.
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dred05
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24. October 2009 @ 15:36 |
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What are you talking about?
Unless specifically required for successful writing = if it won't work at the speed rating of the disc, eg 8x, then burn more slowly until you get a successful burn. If the burn is successful at 8x, then it doesn't matter.
As a matter of fact, the article that you quote says quite the opposite of what you assert.
"Do NOT go lower than half the rated speed for DVD media"
Those instructions seem pretty clear to me to NOT burn at 2.4x if the media is rated at 8x.
if you can read then read my message properly and not to respond with clearly missing the point that I want to make ..
and further if you want to waste your DVD media and laser of the Xbox 360 then keep being ignorant ..
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But hey, keep trying to look smart by doing your best to make others look stupid.
if I want to look smart by giving correct facts then so be it, atleast I am not insulting other forum members ..
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qwert99
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24. October 2009 @ 15:38 |
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Alright, so quote the article when your lack of reading comprehension makes you think that it is backing you up. Diss the article when somebody else points out that it is not. Brilliant.
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dred05
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24. October 2009 @ 15:50 |
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now I even doubt you could read properly because you (qwert99) are turnin' the facts. burning a DVD+DL at 2,4 is still the best solution and if anyone wants to ignore this basic rule, it is them selves they are foolin' ..
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Diss the article when somebody else points out that it is not.
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24. October 2009 @ 18:42 |
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Originally posted by dred05:
now I even doubt you could read properly because you (qwert99) are turnin' the facts. burning a DVD+DL at 2,4 is still the best solution and if anyone wants to ignore this basic rule, it is them selves they are foolin' ..
You're misinterpreting the article. What qwert99 said here is absolutely spot on: -
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Unless specifically required for successful writing = if it won't work at the speed rating of the disc, eg 8x, then burn more slowly until you get a successful burn.
You're wasting your time burning 8X rated media (i.e. the latest Verbatim discs) at 2.4X, a speed which a lot of newer writers won't even support with that media. I've done tests using Verbatim 8X rated discs with burns done at 4X, 6X and 8X and 8X gives the lowest PIEs/PIFs on my burner. I guess you'd tell me to burn at 2.4X though, lol.
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qwert99
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24. October 2009 @ 18:46 |
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The most ironic thing about this entire discussion is that I ALWAYS burn at 2.4x, no matter what media type.
I have no other option....my burner is that old :)
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dred05
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25. October 2009 @ 17:32 |
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You're wasting your time burning 8X rated media (i.e. the latest Verbatim discs) at 2.4X
biggest crap I have heard ..
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You're misinterpreting the article.
No, if you can read, you'll come to the conclussion that in matter of fact your own article is contradicting your statement ..
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from the article at CDfreaks:
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Generally, for DVD media, go no faster than rated speed, or one speed selection below it. Do NOT go lower than half the rated speed for DVD media, unless specifically required for successful writing.
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unless specifically required for successful writing.
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