Originally posted by GDN74:

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First of all im not banned, but i have a benq spoofed as a liteon, I traded my old box which was already modded(toshiba/samung 1.6) to a guy for a unmodded elite box, because I wanted the HDMI. I first modded it back in May I think, and I was new to the whole flashing scene, so stupidly I played a few games early without getting banned. I found out now that the guys box is banned and I know he hasnt played any games early because im the source for his games. Ive had the Elite for over 2 months and ive played every game thats come out nearly, but never early and only when it verifies, so I may be wrong but I think M$ may be going back and checking from much earlier dates, and thats why they are swooping in the way they are now with some being banned and others not. PPL think back try to remember wut u played and when, and did it verify.

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Noob here: If they ban your id and console, can you still play single player games off-line?

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Thank you. I dont know why everybody is so upset? Just have one for single player games and one for on-line games. Money saved on games would more than pay for a second console and would be win/win for everybody because microsoft would sell 2 consoles per person...

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Originally posted by xero_81:

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Thank you. I dont know why everybody is so upset? Just have one for single player games and one for on-line games. Money saved on games would more than pay for a second console and would be win/win for everybody because microsoft would sell 2 consoles per person...

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well some people want achievement points all on one profile

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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One more noob question: So lets say i decide to mod my 360 like...tomorrow. Do they automatically ban you from this point on everyday or would it be something they would have do do every 6 months or so to catch you (hope that makes sense?)...

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Originally posted by funksoulb:

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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One more noob question: So lets say i decide to mod my 360 like...tomorrow. Do they automatically ban you from this point on everyday or would it be something they would have do do every 6 months or so to catch you (hope that makes sense?)...

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So far, MS have done console ban waves approximately once per year. Nobody knows the exact details, but it's speculated that they accumulate data over time. They will then ban lots of people over the course of a few days and there will be no more bans (console bans anyway) until the next ban wave. Mind you, just because they've done it that way in the past, doesn't mean that they'll continue to have year long gaps in between major ban waves. If you mod a console once this ban wave is over, you could be safe for another year, or MS might do another ban wave next week. It's impossible to say for sure. All you can do is mod it and hope that there will still be long gaps in between each ban wave. I would wait until this ban wave is over before modding it though.

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Originally posted by haza12d:

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@johnny412
They are probably upset because people don't want to buy a new console... I mean who has all that money to spend on two consoles anyway? And if I'm gonna spend $60+ on a game so I can play it online (Which most games are designed to do), why would I have to have a modded console if I'll own the retail game anyway?

I'm sure we all know the risks of modding our consoles, downloading, buying, playing early released games... we should be upset, but only for a little while. Just accept the fact that you are banned (if you were banned), because there's nothing you can do about it.

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Yes but there are MANY games that you can play without live: Batman AA, Re5, Mass Effect 2, Assassins Creed 2, Borderlands, etc. Im saying with the money you would save on buying those games you could have a second unmodded console for backup just in case...

Originally posted by funksoulb:

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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One more noob question: So lets say i decide to mod my 360 like...tomorrow. Do they automatically ban you from this point on everyday or would it be something they would have do do every 6 months or so to catch you (hope that makes sense?)...

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So far, MS have done console ban waves approximately once per year. Nobody knows the exact details, but it's speculated that they accumulate data over time. They will then ban lots of consoles over the course of a few days and there will be no more bans (console bans anyway) until the next ban wave. Mind you, just because they've done it that way in the past, doesn't mean that they'll continue to have year long gaps in between major ban waves. If you mod a console once this ban wave is over, you could be safe for another year, or MS might do another ban wave next week. It's impossible to say for sure. All you can do is mod it and hope that there will still be long gaps in between each ban wave. I would wait until this ban wave is over before modding it though.

You can get a console ban outside of a ban wave for other things, such as using your account for phishing or trying to scam people. Also, you can get your gamertag banned for breaching the code of conduct and sometimes that's permanent (as in the Forza 3 bans that occurred recently).

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Originally posted by aj123:

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just dont go online basically until the ban wave is over.

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