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31. October 2009 @ 18:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by buddyleem:
look at these wave 4 games and wave 3 and all that stuff. shows you how Microsoft could release a game with special script to catch us.
i dont think they wanna ban all hackers. i think they have the ability to is what im saying

Theories like this make no sense. MS are probably making a slight loss on each console sold still. They want people to buy games, accessories, Xbox Live subscriptions and content from Live. That's how they make their money. If they had a "script" that could detect all modded consoles, they wouldn't just use it once a year and they'd ban them all.
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31. October 2009 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Console Gen: not sure I have the Halo 3 xbox
Make and Firmware: - benq 1.61
Stock or Modded Hard Drive: stock Drive
Original DVD Drive Or New: original
Played games early: I've played Forza 3 and NHl 10 offline one time each before release date
Rip or Internet Games: torrents from private trackers
Banned Before: never
Registered with M$: No
4th Wave/Activate.iso: When I had 1.6 I played tekken and gta with activation disc.
When I flashed to 1.61 I have played both with out the disc
Sent Back for repairs Console to M$ with ixtreme FW: No
Sent Back For Repairs with Orig FW Back On IT: No
ABGX 100%: the only 2 games I did not wait for were forza and nhl
all of my other games I waited till abgx verified and release date

I wanted to add that I used my 360 to power my drive when flashing

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aqswde123
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31. October 2009 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So everyone who has been banned cannot install games now?? plz confirm.

Might work if we format the hdd or clear cache?
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31. October 2009 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Excuse the retarded username. Reader here for a while but I suppose Ill post some relevant information as well as ask a question Ive been waiting to ask.

pro 60gb hdd no storage at all modded, hdd or mem cards.
original dvd drive that came with the pro bundle.
Never played 4th wave or used the activation disc.


LiteOn 74850c, iX 1.6 flashed back around 2 months ago

Have about 21 games that I have downloaded from 360iso, verified them all and all were clean except FIFA 10 which I still haven't reburned, I believe it was a stealth patch so im probably sol...but Not banned as of this minute.

My question is is it possible to update a drive if I do not have my drive key? I want to update to 1.61 lite on when the lite on is released by iX, but I had my flash done by someone and I don't know if he saved my key or what, he did use JungleFlasher however.

The only game I played early was forza 3 and it was a simple tag ban for playing early nothing else. Otherwise all of my games have been fully verified by ABGX the exception as I said FIFA 10.
List of games
Forza 3 - played early and gamertag was banned, nothing else so I made a new tag.
Borderlands
NHL 10
Batman arkham asylum
ncaa 10
fight night 4
gears 2
skate 2
dead space
fable 2 goty
op flashpoint dragon rising
marvel ultimate alliance 2
brutal legend
need for speed shift

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31. October 2009 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by aqswde123:
So everyone who has been banned cannot install games now?? plz confirm.

Might work if we format the hdd or clear cache?
Confirmed!!

M$ took out the feature after the recent update
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31. October 2009 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wooii:
My question is is it possible to update a drive if I do not have my drive key? I want to update to 1.61 lite on when the lite on is released by iX, but I had my flash done by someone and I don't know if he saved my key or what, he did use JungleFlasher however
This is possible in Jungle Flasher. See the tutorial linked in my signature called "FLASHED Lite-ON".

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wooii
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31. October 2009 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by wooii:
My question is is it possible to update a drive if I do not have my drive key? I want to update to 1.61 lite on when the lite on is released by iX, but I had my flash done by someone and I don't know if he saved my key or what, he did use JungleFlasher however
This is possible in Jungle Flasher. See the tutorial linked in my signature called "FLASHED Lite-ON".
Thanks Lee ;D

One more thing. When power cycling do you have to do the half-way tray like when originally flashing? or is that only for retrieving the key?

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JediOrc
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31. October 2009 @ 20:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think maybe its time to set up a new thread of UNBANED consoles with only facts and nothing more. I don't know how it should be set up but what I do know is it should include Date of FLASH, Drive, games played, how were they acquired, and verification status of the games. I think if we do this then we can analyze the difference between those that survived the wave and their connection. This thread is getting out of hand :-/
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31. October 2009 @ 20:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JediOrc:
I think maybe its time to set up a new thread of UNBANED consoles with only facts and nothing more. I don't know how it should be set up but what I do know is it should include Date of FLASH, Drive, games played, how were they acquired, and verification status of the games. I think if we do this then we can analyze the difference between those that survived the wave and their connection. This thread is getting out of hand :-/
I've read through most of the posts and it seems as though only the people who being banned are people who played unstealthed games or pre-release.

I doubt this is the end of the ban wave though.
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31. October 2009 @ 20:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
I think maybe its time to set up a new thread of UNBANED consoles with only facts and nothing more. I don't know how it should be set up but what I do know is it should include Date of FLASH, Drive, games played, how were they acquired, and verification status of the games. I think if we do this then we can analyze the difference between those that survived the wave and their connection. This thread is getting out of hand :-/
I've read through most of the posts and it seems as though only the people who being banned are people who played unstealthed games or pre-release.

I doubt this is the end of the ban wave though.
I agree with you completely but to be 100% sure I think with all the comments (many off topic that just talk down on others) we should try to prove this theory.
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31. October 2009 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
I think maybe its time to set up a new thread of UNBANED consoles with only facts and nothing more. I don't know how it should be set up but what I do know is it should include Date of FLASH, Drive, games played, how were they acquired, and verification status of the games. I think if we do this then we can analyze the difference between those that survived the wave and their connection. This thread is getting out of hand :-/
I've read through most of the posts and it seems as though only the people who being banned are people who played unstealthed games or pre-release.

I doubt this is the end of the ban wave though.
I agree with you completely but to be 100% sure I think with all the comments (many off topic that just talk down on others) we should try to prove this theory.
NeWop has already tried this: http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/...esearch-810682/
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31. October 2009 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And NeWop can continue to do so despite that thread being closed. That thread was only going to end up like this one, but is as good as any for the thread owner to keep updated, or one of you regulars could do the same with a different thread. However it would have to be someone who frequents here often enough else we'll end up with more duplicate threads.

There's now a 'Wave survivors' thread ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/...st_here-810700/ and i'll wager that one will be swamped by the great uninformed also :)



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31. October 2009 @ 21:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
I think maybe its time to set up a new thread of UNBANED consoles with only facts and nothing more. I don't know how it should be set up but what I do know is it should include Date of FLASH, Drive, games played, how were they acquired, and verification status of the games. I think if we do this then we can analyze the difference between those that survived the wave and their connection. This thread is getting out of hand :-/
I've read through most of the posts and it seems as though only the people who being banned are people who played unstealthed games or pre-release.

I doubt this is the end of the ban wave though.
I agree with you completely but to be 100% sure I think with all the comments (many off topic that just talk down on others) we should try to prove this theory.
NeWop has already tried this: http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/...810682/


thanks for the find. Well at least i (and NeWop) tried. too many people not listening I guess. Ignorance will continue, M $ triumps LOL
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31. October 2009 @ 23:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
never played games b4 release date(cept madden 10 but it was good in abgx) no ban...brother same thing no ban...We made it thru! till the next wave :(


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1. November 2009 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are people still being banned or is the ban wave over?
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1. November 2009 @ 00:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by asdfTT123:
Are people still being banned or is the ban wave over?

well technically i guess its not over. but 3 guys that are afterdawn addicts told me that they have been thru all of the waves and if you get thru the day where everyone says "banned" and you sign in and your fine, then your not banned till next wave. Like pretty much saying there is only one ban wave a year, but you never know when the next one could be


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1. November 2009 @ 00:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol, Infinity Ward probably complained to M$ that is why they cracked down.

Make CoD6 sell more than CoD4!!
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1. November 2009 @ 01:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Sythron:
Lol, Infinity Ward probably complained to M$ that is why they cracked down.

Make CoD6 sell more than CoD4!!
Ya cuz were already not gona sell more than any other game in history! lol


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1. November 2009 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if you have played verified games from torrents on a 1.6 iX such as COD MOD 1, COD WAW, and halo ODST and not yet been banned, is there any chance that buying a legit copy of COD MOD 2 will help you not get banned or are you already screwed amyways
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1. November 2009 @ 03:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by CODgmrWAW:
So if you have played verified games from torrents on a 1.6 iX such as COD MOD 1, COD WAW, and halo ODST and not yet been banned, is there any chance that buying a legit copy of COD MOD 2 will help you not get banned or are you already screwed amyways
You're most likely screwed. But if you haven't been banned yet just don't play anything early and verify games with abgx.
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1. November 2009 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK i updated to IX 1.61 last night,
I've played GTA which wasnt properly stealth patched before i updated,
Didnt play GTA early,
Havent played Boardlands / UFC / Red fraction,
Just got the Xbox Update and not banned! Thank f...

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1. November 2009 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How can you tell if someone on your friendlist is banned? a person who played borderlands almost a week before release hasn't been on since 10/30.


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1. November 2009 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xero_81:
How can you tell if someone on your friendlist is banned? a person who played borderlands almost a week before release hasn't been on since 10/30.
Unless there profile has been banned, you cant



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1. November 2009 @ 11:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, im on 1.61 with a benq drive...i Have played games pre release, but not online (disconnected all cables)

evidently i have discovered that this is irrelevant as it can be apparently flagged even iff online, and then banned when you go online.

Does anyone yet know where this "flag" information is held, and will clearing the cache before logging into live help any?
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1. November 2009 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey just wanted to add more information that could help I talked to the guy who modded my console and he's done over 100s of them and what he said is causing it is the actual updating of the fw because Microsoft is able to tell how many times the drive has been turned on with a sata cable not from the console if that makes sense. Like I said early I didn't do the mod just relaying info to help people out. So it would seem the more you've updated the fw on ur drive the more of a red flag you've sent off.He also told me there is a way to reset it but probably better to wait for that right now. Also he told me to stick to the iso disk before playing wave 4 games for now and I shouldn't have a problem. I haven't been banned and have been playing forza 3 and the new gta as of right now. Also he said it's mainly people that have played games early or had bad rips of games. Hope this helps
 
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