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hooterjh
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14. November 2009 @ 23:55 |
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"This console has been banned from Xbox LIVE for violating terms of service, Yada yada yada..."
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playingso
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15. November 2009 @ 01:07 |
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1- I haven't played modded Xbox in a few weeks. I haven't gone online to be told I'm banned yet but can my console ID already be banned at MSFT's database?
2- Do you have to update the xbox (recently) for MSFT to know you have a modded xbox?
3- If I don't go online until this supposed "ban wave" is over, am I safe from the ban?
sorry, i'm a noob at xbox (just purchased a few weeks ago) so I've no clue what's going on.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 01:16 |
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Originally posted by pooky:
Originally posted by systemic:
Originally posted by pooky:
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no kidding...i dont understand why you sign in to live if you have a modded xbox right now.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter if it's later or now because once you're flagged then you're gonna be banned upon the next connection to Live. The new firmware when available will not save you either on that console.
I think the people that's scared to check might as well bite the bullet. If you have a modded console & used it in the past few weeks/months then you're pretty much done. If you have a modded console & not done anything then wait til c4eva releases his new firmware. This way you're not taking any chances on getting banned & will be ready for Live once the FW is available to us.
I hear alot of people say this but I have not seen anything to prove that this is fact.
The only thing we absolutely know for sure is that if you play on Live right now there is a 100% chance you will get banned. So if you have a system that has not been banned, why would you take it on Live just to play for 3 hours or so and then get banned? Yes it is true that, for example, my modded console has been flagged and will get banned at some point even if I don't login to Live, but if I DO get on Live right now I have 100% chance of getting banned.
If your console has not been banned, stay off Live, that simple.
Am I missing something?
Isn't that what I just basically said? STAY AWAY FROM LIVE RIGHT NOW! What I was implying though was if you've been on Live in the past weeks/months then you're already flagged for a ban. Staying away from Live this way then you're just avoiding the inevitable really
Well, this was interesting to read. Pooky - you are contradicting yourself. You said, "I think the people that's scared to check might as well bite the bullet. If you have a modded console & used it in the past few weeks/months then you're pretty much done." People should not bite the bullet yet. There's about a 95% chance of you getting banned when you sign in after this whole ban wave is over if you've played a modded console on live. There's a 99.9% chance of getting banned if you sign on right now. If you don't know if you've been flagged then don't get online. If you know you've been flagged then DON'T GET ONLINE!! (leave the console as an offline console) Either way, everyone should stay off. Yes, you are right. Most of us will probably be banned or at least flagged to be banned when this is all over. I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy. It seems that the two of you agree on this but you might have misspoken when you told people to just bite the bullet. Just thought I will clarify everything.
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Steeb666
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15. November 2009 @ 01:21 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
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Draconia
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15. November 2009 @ 01:22 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by pooky:
Originally posted by systemic:
Originally posted by pooky:
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no kidding...i dont understand why you sign in to live if you have a modded xbox right now.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter if it's later or now because once you're flagged then you're gonna be banned upon the next connection to Live. The new firmware when available will not save you either on that console.
I think the people that's scared to check might as well bite the bullet. If you have a modded console & used it in the past few weeks/months then you're pretty much done. If you have a modded console & not done anything then wait til c4eva releases his new firmware. This way you're not taking any chances on getting banned & will be ready for Live once the FW is available to us.
I hear alot of people say this but I have not seen anything to prove that this is fact.
The only thing we absolutely know for sure is that if you play on Live right now there is a 100% chance you will get banned. So if you have a system that has not been banned, why would you take it on Live just to play for 3 hours or so and then get banned? Yes it is true that, for example, my modded console has been flagged and will get banned at some point even if I don't login to Live, but if I DO get on Live right now I have 100% chance of getting banned.
If your console has not been banned, stay off Live, that simple.
Am I missing something?
Isn't that what I just basically said? STAY AWAY FROM LIVE RIGHT NOW! What I was implying though was if you've been on Live in the past weeks/months then you're already flagged for a ban. Staying away from Live this way then you're just avoiding the inevitable really
Well, this was interesting to read. Pooky - you are contradicting yourself. You said, "I think the people that's scared to check might as well bite the bullet. If you have a modded console & used it in the past few weeks/months then you're pretty much done." People should not bite the bullet yet. There's about a 95% chance of you getting banned when you sign in after this whole ban wave is over if you've played a modded console on live. There's a 99.9% chance of getting banned if you sign on right now. If you don't know if you've been flagged then don't get online. If you know you've been flagged then DON'T GET ONLINE!! (leave the console as an offline console) Either way, everyone should stay off. Yes, you are right. Most of us will probably be banned or at least flagged to be banned when this is all over. I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy. It seems that the two of you agree on this but you might have misspoken when you told people to just bite the bullet. Just thought I will clarify everything.
This guy does have the right idea. In the end all you should remember in this situation is it is to be better safe than sorry
Pluck out mine eyes, hasten, attest
Blind reason against thee, Enchantress
For I must know, art thou not death?
My heart echoes bloodless and incensed....
-Cradle Of Filth
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 01:25 |
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Originally posted by foxbox13:
okay, does anyone know if we can have an unmodded/unbanned stock xbox for live play/legit games, and use a modded/unbanned xbox for our backups/not playing on live? And switch hdd's between the two without getting banned?
Like play a backup of batman AA on my unbanned but modded xbox(not connected to xbl), save my game on my gamertag, and then disconnect my hdd and put it on non-modded/non-banned xbox(that IS connected to xbl) and play a original purchased game. Will m$ see that the other game saves on the hdd are from burned games?
The reason I think i will be okay, is because if you have a banned/modded xbox and you take the hdd off and put it on a non banned xbox, the new xbox doesnt get banned just because there are gamesaves from the old banned xbox...i know all this is confusing to type out etc, but i just dont want my nonbanned/nonmodded xbox to get banned cause ive been playing burned games on a different xbox.
Sorry for the double post guys but I was just so eager to respond to a question that been asked and answered on every one of the 57 pages of this thread. YES, if your modded console is not banned yet it will be just like it's always been. You can put your hdd on it and carry saved games and achievements between it and your unmodded xbox. If you never sign it back into live it will not officially get banned, even though it might be flagged to be banned. Even if it was banned, your hdd from it would not get your unmodded console banned.
If you're new to the thread please read at least a few pages of it before asking a question to see if your question has already been asked. I know it's 57 pages long but this question is in a there a lot.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 01:26 |
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Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
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15. November 2009 @ 01:32 |
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Well, this was interesting to read. Pooky - you are contradicting yourself. You said, "I think the people that's scared to check might as well bite the bullet. If you have a modded console & used it in the past few weeks/months then you're pretty much done." People should not bite the bullet yet. There's about a 95% chance of you getting banned when you sign in after this whole ban wave is over if you've played a modded console on live. There's a 99.9% chance of getting banned if you sign on right now. If you don't know if you've been flagged then don't get online. If you know you've been flagged then DON'T GET ONLINE!! (leave the console as an offline console) Either way, everyone should stay off. Yes, you are right. Most of us will probably be banned or at least flagged to be banned when this is all over. I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy. It seems that the two of you agree on this but you might have misspoken when you told people to just bite the bullet. Just thought I will clarify everything.
Contradicting myself? What you just stated is what I pretty much said/meant. If you're already flagged on a particular console you're gonna be banned no matter what sooner or later. If you avoid getting on Live just to keep from getting banned then you're delaying the ban. Right?
You can check to see if you're banned anyhow without going online. The only way you can assure of not getting banned right now is to have a legit console or have a modded one not connected/signed into to Live. Probably not even turned the thing on to play anything too. When the new FW is released you can update the FW & therefore have a freshly working modded console without any suspicious activity. I don't even know if this is a safe way with a fresh console because we don't know how the new FW will work. Thanks!
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Steeb666
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15. November 2009 @ 01:33 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
No, only the first time. but it does do it whenever I want to watch a .avi from my PC when im not connected to XBL.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 01:34 |
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Originally posted by pooky:
Originally posted by johncchc:
Originally posted by andmill11:
Originally posted by johncchc:
guys there is a new iextreme firmware c4eva is working on, it's called iextreme lite touch, it will unban banned consoles. There is no estimate date on it yet but it will be out soon. if this really works, we dont have to sell our banned consoles!!
And where is your proof on this?
here is the proof..
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/20389.cfm
on the second paragraph, it says that the new firmware will unban banned consoles and you dont have to spend money on a new console.
Are you referring to this quote:
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This weekend, 360mods is reporting that a possible workaround is in the works, that will help permanently banned users to access XBL again without having to buy a new console.
That last part sounds like being able to unban gamers but I don't see it happening with just the new firmware.
It seems unlikely that a new FW would un-ban your console. If that were the case you should be able to spoof a new drive into your system and get unbanned. I haven't heard c4eva say that so I wouldn't take it too seriously just yet. That would be great though.
As to the other method listed in that post. That method will only work if you haven't played any wave 4 games. As soon as you play a wave 4 game your system gets an update that fixes the crack that was being used for jtag. Without jtag this work around won't work unless you got your key off your system before the update. Good idea though. I'm pretty sure that M$ thought of this work around, as it's fairly obvious, when they decided to initiate this ban wave and did what they could to fix that crack in advance. Most of us will not be able to us this.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 01:36 |
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Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
No, only the first time.
That's normal. Most games have their own updates that the developers implement or xbox live implements to fix glitches in the game. You should get an update almost every time you play a new game. Hell, I played MW2 the first day it was out and it already had an update. You're ok.
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Steeb666
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15. November 2009 @ 01:43 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
No, only the first time.
That's normal. Most games have their own updates that the developers implement or xbox live implements to fix glitches in the game. You should get an update almost every time you play a new game. Hell, I played MW2 the first day it was out and it already had an update. You're ok.
well im not ok now that the ban is in effect. I cant play any new games. or .avi's from my PC. I must connect to XBL.
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15. November 2009 @ 02:21 |
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Originally posted by Steeb666:
well im not ok now that the ban is in effect. I cant play any new games. or .avi's from my PC. I must connect to XBL.
Everything has a price. This is the price you pay for modding. Die-hard modders don't mind staying offline and waiting it out for a month or two for the ban to end. (But then you don't get the updates to enable you to play the newest wave games, eg. Left 4 Dead 2 which I hear is a Wave 5 game.) Those who are after the fun the XBox and XBL provide would not last a couple of days (like my son). Depends on which camp you are in. What I'm saying is that if you are only into the entertainment you might as well go legit. At the end of the day it's really not that much more expensive than modding. It's only that you pay more for more entertainment and less frustrations.
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foxbox13
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15. November 2009 @ 02:46 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by foxbox13:
okay, does anyone know if we can have an unmodded/unbanned stock xbox for live play/legit games, and use a modded/unbanned xbox for our backups/not playing on live? And switch hdd's between the two without getting banned?
YES, if your modded console is not banned yet it will be just like it's always been. You can put your hdd on it and carry saved games and achievements between it and your unmodded xbox. If you never sign it back into live it will not officially get banned, even though it might be flagged to be banned. Even if it was banned, your hdd from it would not get your unmodded console banned.
If you're new to the thread please read at least a few pages of it before asking a question to see if your question has already been asked. I know it's 57 pages long but this question is in a there a lot.
well ive read through a lot of it, but i just wanted to make sure my hdd doesnt get flagged by the modded/unbanned xbox, and then cause my unmodded/unbanned xbox to get banned. Cause thats the setup i have now, a modded/unbanned xbox for burned games, and a legit unmodded/unbanned xbox for retail purchased games.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 03:22 |
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Originally posted by foxbox13:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by foxbox13:
okay, does anyone know if we can have an unmodded/unbanned stock xbox for live play/legit games, and use a modded/unbanned xbox for our backups/not playing on live? And switch hdd's between the two without getting banned?
YES, if your modded console is not banned yet it will be just like it's always been. You can put your hdd on it and carry saved games and achievements between it and your unmodded xbox. If you never sign it back into live it will not officially get banned, even though it might be flagged to be banned. Even if it was banned, your hdd from it would not get your unmodded console banned.
If you're new to the thread please read at least a few pages of it before asking a question to see if your question has already been asked. I know it's 57 pages long but this question is in a there a lot.
well ive read through a lot of it, but i just wanted to make sure my hdd doesnt get flagged by the modded/unbanned xbox, and then cause my unmodded/unbanned xbox to get banned. Cause thats the setup i have now, a modded/unbanned xbox for burned games, and a legit unmodded/unbanned xbox for retail purchased games.
No worries, you should be fine. I guess it's better to be on the safe side. Just never plug your modded system into live again and you will retain all the offline perks. I'm running the same setup. It works out great. Now, I don't have to worry about getting banned from live if I burn a bad game. I can dl and play any games I want and just buy the games I need live (Halo 3, MW2, Left4Dead 2). I will save at least $150/year on game rentals alone.
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foxbox13
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15. November 2009 @ 03:24 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by foxbox13:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by foxbox13:
No worries, you should be fine. I guess it's better to be on the safe side. Just never plug your modded system into live again and you will retain all the offline perks. I'm running the same setup. It works out great. Now, I don't have to worry about getting banned from live if I burn a bad game. I can dl and play any games I want and just buy the games I need live (Halo 3, MW2, Left4Dead 2). I will save at least $150/year on game rentals alone.
thanks, thats the exact answer i wanted. I wanted to hear from someone else who is doing the same thing, not someone speculating.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 03:26 |
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Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
No, only the first time.
That's normal. Most games have their own updates that the developers implement or xbox live implements to fix glitches in the game. You should get an update almost every time you play a new game. Hell, I played MW2 the first day it was out and it already had an update. You're ok.
well im not ok now that the ban is in effect. I cant play any new games. or .avi's from my PC. I must connect to XBL.
Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, you should be able to put your hdd on an unmodded xbox, connect to live, put the new game in, get the update, then be good to go. I'm not sure if the update loads to the xbox itself or to your profile. I haven't had to do that before. At least it's an idea.
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mshockey
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15. November 2009 @ 03:48 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, you should be able to put your hdd on an unmodded xbox, connect to live, put the new game in, get the update, then be good to go. I'm not sure if the update loads to the xbox itself or to your profile. I haven't had to do that before. At least it's an idea.
Nevermind, I just thought about that and realized the update is to the system itself...not the profile. I used the activate.iso disc to play MW2. That bypassed the wave 4 problem for me. The other updates should just be for online use only, which, haha...you don't really need to worry about anymore. Sorry, it's in poor humor to laugh at our fallen comrades.
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Sixxer
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15. November 2009 @ 04:01 |
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I have never played on live.
I connected to live only one time to download an update. No disc was in the DVD drive.
Will I get banned if I connect to live to download new updates?
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15. November 2009 @ 04:08 |
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Originally posted by Sixxer:
I have never played on live.
I connected to live only one time to download an update. No disc was in the DVD drive.
Will I get banned if I connect to live to download new updates?
Maybe, maybe not. One way to find out buddy...
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Steeb666
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15. November 2009 @ 05:26 |
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Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by Steeb666:
Originally posted by mshockey:
I am probably flagged but I will keep the modded console offline forever now and use it for single player games that I don't wanna buy.
Every time I put in a new game, backup or not, it makes me perform an update in order to play it. I thought this was a common thing. Am I the only one who needs to do this? Same thing when playing .avi's from my PC.
I've never heard of that before. Does it do it even when you play the same game several days in a row?
No, only the first time.
That's normal. Most games have their own updates that the developers implement or xbox live implements to fix glitches in the game. You should get an update almost every time you play a new game. Hell, I played MW2 the first day it was out and it already had an update. You're ok.
well im not ok now that the ban is in effect. I cant play any new games. or .avi's from my PC. I must connect to XBL.
Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, you should be able to put your hdd on an unmodded xbox, connect to live, put the new game in, get the update, then be good to go. I'm not sure if the update loads to the xbox itself or to your profile. I haven't had to do that before. At least it's an idea.
sounds good until you put the burned game in an unmodded xbox. I could just go rent a real copy for $5 or so and then get the update and then play it then.
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Steeb666
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15. November 2009 @ 05:32 |
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Originally posted by Sixxer:
I have never played on live.
I connected to live only one time to download an update. No disc was in the DVD drive.
Will I get banned if I connect to live to download new updates?
is you xbox modded? if so, then yeah you will probably get banned.
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15. November 2009 @ 10:09 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it prompts you for an update when you try to play a new game, shouldn't the update be on the disc since not everyone has live? If the update is on the disc why not just update that way?
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15. November 2009 @ 10:24 |
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Originally posted by mikeismad:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it prompts you for an update when you try to play a new game, shouldn't the update be on the disc since not everyone has live? If the update is on the disc why not just update that way?
Title updates are delivered via Live only. Dashboard updates are delivered via Live and game discs (waves 3, 4 and 5). Some times there's a title update available on day 1. Forza 3 and MW2 are two examples of that.
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15. November 2009 @ 10:27 |
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Yeah, but a title update shouldn't stop you from playing the game. I have never had an issue putting a game in my xbox without having live connected to it and not being able to play it because of an update. If it is required to update to play the update will be on the disc.
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