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mX10
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16. November 2009 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tn1848:

You do realize that if the agent theory is indeed true, and you do go on live, its only a matter of time for your unbanned consoles. A lot of people have been saying that the bans only happen once a year, but if this theory hold true, everyone will be at risk once they download the required live updates, no matter what time of year.
Oh, sorry.. i thought that it only logged changes in firmware, i.e. an upgrade or mod after initial use.

We'll see tomorrow i guess - after the update, prepared for the worst though so im not too bothered.
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16. November 2009 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by guessswho:
Originally posted by m41m3d:
I think that flashed firmware is always detectable. I read lots of posts about how challenge response times differ from a non-flashed dvd drive and other possible detectable differences.

But if microsoft is smart, they can always detect different firmware.

example in bytes:
Original firmware: 010101010101
Flashed firmware: 010101110101

How can you even make custom firmware without having a different kinda checksum compared to the original firmware?
Again, I have to interject when I read just bad noob posts.

Do you know anything about IT or flashing? The firmware is LOCKED OUT! Microsoft can't just probe your console and get a checksum of your drive's firmware. They CANNOT detect firmware natively.

As I have said many many times, if you would heave search for anything, Microsoft left themselves a backdoor by doing and issuing challenges to the drive. But just probing the drive and getting the firmware, not possible.
You are right, I don't know anything about flashing a dvd drive. But I do know there are simple applications for both windows and dos that can update firmware software on the dvd drive. I guess it is about the same thing as flashing a BIOS ROM?

Why would it be IMPOSSIBLE for microsoft to read there own firmware checksums? They cannot install a small piece of code with a dashboard update to read your firmware and send it on your next live connect?
Maybe you can explain the noob then ;)

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. November 2009 @ 13:45

tosiek214
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16. November 2009 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is banhammer over now?!
panispy
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16. November 2009 @ 21:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tosiek214:
Is banhammer over now?!
Dont connect your xbox kiddo, youll get hammered ;)
tosiek214
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16. November 2009 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got banend ages ago. I'm just asking
davidmc8
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16. November 2009 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well news is just out the new undetectable lite on firmware is being released next week i think its first for lite on thn for the rest benq etc

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16. November 2009 @ 21:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davidmc8:
well news is just out the new undetectable lite on firmware is being released next week i think its first for lite on thn for the rest benq etc
where did you hear this from?

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davidmc8
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16. November 2009 @ 21:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it was on bulletin board on site ill put all information on later on toiday

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16. November 2009 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davidmc8:
it was on bulletin board on site ill put all information on later on toiday
do you have the link?

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Nunta
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16. November 2009 @ 23:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hope u are not full of it davidmc8 because if it is coming out next week... yipee!!!
boxer2520
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17. November 2009 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's nowhere that says lt will be out next week.... If that was the case he could have posted the proof right there and then. Stop wasting our time with BS!

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17. November 2009 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by boxer2520:
There's nowhere that says lt will be out next week.... If that was the case he could have posted the proof right there and then. Stop wasting our time with BS!

Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!
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17. November 2009 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You work for M$ dont u.....


boxer2520
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17. November 2009 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!


Seriously!

Boxer25
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17. November 2009 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by boxer2520:
Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!
wow, what "free" version of windows are you using lol?





Seriously!
blebled47
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17. November 2009 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Everyone is still blaming the firmware being detected. Call it what you want , I was the first to get hit on OCT 30th , started this thread and since made a test. Almost identical to C4E. I have two boxes , both running 1.61 virgins ( never played a backup) and the one who is only plawying retail is still fine. The other one , not so much , played at least 10 verified backups and banned on nov 12th. Just my 2 cents.
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17. November 2009 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I HIGHLY recommend checking out the "Making Your Own Backups" thread located here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/...-update-814927/

Kreon firmware has been making bad rips that look legit. I have high suspicions that this was one of the main reasons for the recent ban wave.

$38 on new discs -- Check
$15 on burn after burn that showed as a DVD -- Check
$11 on new laser -- Check
$28 on new multimeter -- Check
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JakeSnow
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17. November 2009 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davidmc8:
well news is just out the new undetectable lite on firmware is being released next week i think its first for lite on thn for the rest benq etc
Yeah well didn't C4eva and whoever claim all the previous firmware was "undetectable" also?? And look what happened to most of us. MS is smart and will continue banning people, regardless of new firmware or not.
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17. November 2009 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All this flaming off C4eva firmware is really starting to get on my tits.
We ALL knew the risks of using modified firmware that eventually M$ would find a way to find us out.
Look on the bright side all the money you may have saved on games you can use on a new console if your that desperate to go back onlive.
Me personally i looked at X-box Live as a perk for my console thats all.
Big deal i have been banned of live woopie do dah i didnt really care about live as i have my PC for all the multi player goodness that i will ever need.

I think we will be really lucky if C4eva releases the light touch firmware, as many of the threads around all the forums try to blame him, Dont take it personaly guys we knew it would happen 1 day

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chumped23
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17. November 2009 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by foxbox13:
Originally posted by boxer2520:
Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!
wow, what "free" version of windows are you using lol?





Seriously!

Either the one they give company wide at MSFT, or the one he pirated. Ironic
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17. November 2009 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just read the first page of this thread, in it funny how quickly things change, bearing that in mind i think everyone should keep quiet about what is causing the ban wave til the dust has died down a bit. I can see clearly now the rain has gone.....lol
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17. November 2009 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by foxbox13:
Originally posted by boxer2520:
Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!
wow, what "free" version of windows are you using lol?





Seriously!

My free version off my torrent site. If you dont pirate or dont want to pay for it use crappy linux instead zzz
panispy
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17. November 2009 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xero_81:
You work for M$ dont u.....
Lol i work for microsoft?? Why did i sell it to you...i dont give a toss about microsoft. All im saying to you little hater is show a little respect dont flame them because you had a dodgy consol lol. If you dont like them like i have said before go with sony. There online service is a pile of sh*t mate.
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17. November 2009 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by stuartbat:
All this flaming off C4eva firmware is really starting to get on my tits.

I agree, without C4eva we wouldn't have this firmware in the first place. He's doing great work and we'll all be lucky if he keeps it up. There wouldn't be much of a scene without work like his now would it. To all of you who are bashing...can you do any better? cause if so lets see it otherwise shut it and show some respect!

Boxer25
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panispy
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17. November 2009 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chumped23:
Originally posted by foxbox13:
Originally posted by boxer2520:
Serious forget that bull crap of flashing your xbox todays xbox live update is the best thing since sliced bread mate!

Last fm is amazing!! Thanks you microsoft for this amazing service and now im never scared to log on again!

Zune streams direct hd movies with surround sound straight to you instantly with no downloads wowowowowowow!!

No one thanks microsoft for anything!

Thank you microsoft for my free windows, office and my £25 a year amazing live service!!
wow, what "free" version of windows are you using lol?





Seriously!

Either the one they give company wide at MSFT, or the one he pirated. Ironic
Its not ironic mate, im not saying dont flash your consol i did and i got banned but i accept it because the service is worth it to me. If they ban my pc with windows 7 pirate ill buy that too. Fortunately they cant ;)
 
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