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Windows 7 surpasses 3 percent market share

article published on 2 November, 2009

According to data from Net Applications, Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows 7, has surpassed 3 percent market share, and is closing in on 4 percent as I type this. As of this morning, the new OS stood at 3.67 percent market share, growing over a percentage point since last Thursday. Overall, as of November 1st, Windows (including XP, Vista, and 7) controlled 92.5 percent ... [ read the full article ]

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2. November 2009 @ 14:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How Many of those W7 copies are legit, considering the Copy Protection And the borrowed Vista Activation Scheme were Cracked before RTM was released.
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It dose not really matter as they can make money from it either way.

I been trying to get my sht in order to move over to window 7...
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2. November 2009 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
these 92% figures are BS .. there is NO way to measure all the machines running a free operating system..

stop feeding this monopolistic propaganda eh?

if takeup of foss systems was so low M$ wouldn't be so keen to try and kill it off with trickery and patent threats.

87% of THE MARKET (july 2009) and now likely less.. which is a false figure anyway... because that can and does only compare OVER THE COUNTER sales... where the free alternatives don't compete. Ever tried buying a computer which comes with no M$ junk? .. almost impossible due to proven monopolistic antitrust crimes.

The foss community list windoze use at more like 68% of total desktop computers currently running.. and below 40% of the server market.. for spine hardware it's unix all the way with 98% of the internet backbone running hardened unix (proprietary built by the owners)

I guess we have another M$ press office propaganda crapnews item here...
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2. November 2009 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried out w7 yesterday on my e8400 with 3 gigs. The performance was OK, but the rapefest that was windows explorer (as well as no classic taskbar, no quickstart, and the stupid search bar) killed it for me. Went back to XP. Happy as a clam :)
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Cisco's VPN client doesn't support vista yet, so I'm sure thats holding some people back.
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2. November 2009 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
I been trying to get my sht in order to move over to window 7...
You won't regret Zip. FAR superior to Vista and XP.
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Originally posted by DarkJello:
Cisco's VPN client doesn't support vista yet, so I'm sure thats holding some people back.
Corporations almost never jump on a new OS until it's been out a few to several years anyway, so this likely won't be a big deal for those who get company-provided computers for their work, but yeah, it would be of concern to those using their own personal computers to VPN into work.
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Originally posted by DarkJello:
Cisco's VPN client doesn't support vista yet, so I'm sure thats holding some people back.
Actually the latest 5 version does. I've been using it for months.
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2. November 2009 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
I tried out w7 yesterday on my e8400 with 3 gigs. The performance was OK, but the rapefest that was windows explorer (as well as no classic taskbar, no quickstart, and the stupid search bar) killed it for me. Went back to XP. Happy as a clam :)
Two E6400 machines here, both with 4GB Ram, W7 positively flies (i use 32-bit and yes, i know that 32-bit doesn't fully utilise the 4GB, i could care less :) )
Still happy with XP (and linux) on other machines, old and new alike.



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No doubt about it win 7 is da bomb,well considering what xp is like then hell yeah it's a step up alright,still i'll need a new comp to run it,yeah it's ok on the 32bit 8 y/o machine tho there is a definite performance drop once more apps are loaded,still it's pretty slick even without using wincustomize stuff
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My consulting firm is a 'National Systems Integrator' (NSI) for Microsoft so we get everything for free as there are only 60 in the world and all 60 of our employees are using 7 and not a single solitary complaint yet.

I've been using the RTM for a couple months now and absolutely love it more than anything. All games and all apps work flawlessly on it and I have only had one minor incident of instability but eh...............that happens. It looks totally cool at 1920 x 1080 on my 52" LCD and I love the taskbar peek as well as the slamming windows to the top/right/left and the libraries are priceless for those with Mp3s or videos in several locations.

I'm a techie and tweak my own system for optimization and recommend this to all. I hate Vista with a passion and dread working on other's computers who run Vista. Xp rocked but 7 is the sh*t!

Those who knock it should just stop already and use Linux/Unix or Mac............or better yet.............stick with pen and paper and an Xbox 360 or PS3 because complaints are completely unfounded as I have put this OS to the ultimate compatibility/stability/practicality test.
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2. November 2009 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by windsong:
I tried out w7 yesterday on my e8400 with 3 gigs. The performance was OK, but the rapefest that was windows explorer (as well as no classic taskbar, no quickstart, and the stupid search bar) killed it for me. Went back to XP. Happy as a clam :)


Yet another dog that can't be taught new tricks and stuck in the dinosaur age.................unwillingness to accept change is such a shame as the world is not stagnant.

BTW........quicklaunch IS AT THE BOTTOM.........just pin apps to it. Don't know what "quickstart" is but maybe I refer to it in a different way and the "Search bar" is awesome. I simply type in the first 3 letters of any program on the All Programs menu and hit Enter and voila! Much more convenient than searching manually through that.

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Yet another dog that can't be taught new tricks and stuck in the dinosaur age.................unwillingness to accept change is such a shame as the world is not stagnant.

Yet another pup who isn't content with anything that's been around longer than six months. We dogs have it cheaper. ;-)
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Originally posted by scum101:
these 92% figures are BS .. there is NO way to measure all the machines running a free operating system..

stop feeding this monopolistic propaganda eh?

Actually many websites record data from source IPs from ISPs and detect what OS and browser is being used to access their sites so if you are like 99% of consumers and businesses that have access to the internet it is a pretty reliable way to detect what OSes and Browsers are being used out there. My organization does this on our own websites for the school district and we can detect many OSes from Windows, MacOS, various Linux flavors and browsers. Just pulling the recent database logs from access to our sites shows these figures:

Figures from unique external IP sources (internal IPs are not recorded)
Windows total 97% (Breakdown of 100% Windows access below)
Windows 7 - 1.2%
Windows Vista 15.7%
Windows XP - 81.1%
Windows Other - 2%

MacOS - 2.4%

Linux or Unknown OS 0.6%

Browser Breakdown
IE 68%
Firefox - 21%
Safari - 6%
Chrome - 3%
Other - 2%

These are just statistics from hits to our websites and others will vary but I think you get the idea.
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2. November 2009 @ 23:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by scum101:
these 92% figures are BS .. there is NO way to measure all the machines running a free operating system..... because that can and does only compare OVER THE COUNTER sales... where the free alternatives don't compete. Ever tried buying a computer which comes with no M$ junk? .. almost impossible due to proven monopolistic antitrust crimes.
NetApplications collects their data from a wide variety of websites. They claim the sites they monitor (and collect data from) get about 160 million visits per month.

They use this data to produce the numbers for everything from Web browser versions to OS versions. A wide variety of computers broadcast information such as what browser you are using as well as what OS etc.

By monitoring quite a few sites they have a pretty good picture of internet-connected computers. Sure, they can't monitor everything but I'm sure they have a pretty good picture.

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Yet another dog that can't be taught new tricks and stuck in the dinosaur age.................unwillingness to accept change is such a shame as the world is not stagnant.

Yet another pup who isn't content with anything that's been around longer than six months. We dogs have it cheaper. ;-)

Son...........I rolled with Xp for 9 YEARS.............9 F'ing YEARS.

It's played and boring and us real techies like to fidget with new, cool technology. Besides, complacency is problematic in this God forsaken world and you're just another contributor..........or better said..........."an old dog who can't be taught new tricks"

Change is inevitable and the worst part is your specific complaints about 7 are without merit as I pointed out.

Don't talk to me about never being satisfied. I stick with video cards for a minimum of 2 years, processors for 5 and Xp for 9. God granted me the ability to see a good thing and 7 is far better in every way to Xp. Faster, cleaner, prettier, more accessible and convenient and above all else...........compatible with every software I have thrown at it.

Just admit that you ARE an old dog whom doesn't like or doesn't want to learn new tricks and you will show how truly humble you actually are. Follow the path of Jesus.
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@ lissenup. you are pretty much a hostile kind of person. Not everyone wants or can afford to buy video cards every 2 years and over-priced OS's from slick willy. For me its simple save money for good hardware and use the most up-to date linux distro's with bullet-proof integrity. As you said you are a techie you shouldn't be afraid of a cmd line:P I am not a gamer so I see no need for vista or 7. I use a jacked version of xp to run my DAW because my audio hardware is not supported in the linux environment. Both the hardware and my production software just laugh at me when I suggest giving it vista or 7, to work on. I think personally windows is way over-priced and adds to much hipe.
Anyway if windows wasn't bundled with most pre-assembled comps and folks had to buy the OS, I wonder then what the market share would be?
Lets say for the casual user to do a bit of surfing, read emails, watch the odd flick and listen to some music. What would it be windows 7 for 200 euros or say linux ubuntu(just an example cause its idiot proof) for the price of a blank cd?
Answers on postcard please:D

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Originally posted by DVDBack32:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
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I been trying to get my sht in order to move over to window 7...
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You won't regret Zip. FAR superior to Vista and XP.
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W7 flies for me. 6GB RAM, Corei7, Ultimate 64. XP virtualization is seamless so far. It also flies.

Step 1 - install OS
Step 2 - open IE
Step 3 - download firefox

I should have skipped Step 2 and downloaded Firefox from my wifes laptop. Love the OS though. Lots of little goodies.

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Son...........I rolled with Xp for 9 YEARS.............9 F'ing YEARS.
That's quite impressive - especially considering Windows XP just turned 8 years old... :-S

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It's played and boring and us real techies like to fidget with new, cool technology. Besides, complacency is problematic in this God forsaken world and you're just another contributor..........or better said..........."an old dog who can't be taught new tricks"
I'm into computer building, overclocking, programming and video encoding and haven't seen anything in Windows 7 that would allow me to accomplish those things more efficiently than I already do in XP and Linux. Since those tasks apparently aren't "new" and "cool" enough to make me a "real techy", I guess I'll just apologize for being an old fuddy duddy. :-(

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Change is inevitable and the worst part is your specific complaints about 7 are without merit as I pointed out.
I didn't complain about Windows 7.

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Don't talk to me about never being satisfied. I stick with video cards for a minimum of 2 years, processors for 5 and Xp for 9. God granted me the ability to see a good thing and 7 is far better in every way to Xp. Faster, cleaner, prettier, more accessible and convenient and above all else...........compatible with every software I have thrown at it.
If you think it's pretty, that's great. If it works fine with your software, that's great. If you want to spend money on it, that's great. You can go out and buy Windows 7 and I'll be cheering you on every step of the way.

As for me, Windows 7 does not work with all my software. Windows 7's additions and new interface strike me as a disorienting waste of resources that serve to slow down the tasks I really want to perform. And since I don't want to spend money on something that limits and slows down the tasks that I want to perform, I won't be buying Windows 7.

But that's just my opinion and my perspective. "Better" is about the most subjective word that there is, so I won't presume to declare Windows XP better than Windows 7.

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Just admit that you ARE an old dog whom doesn't like or doesn't want to learn new tricks and you will show how truly humble you actually are.
I'm an old dog, though I can't admit to being unwilling to learn new tricks, as I rather like new tricks - just not the ones in Windows 7. Linux and the .NET Framework have lots of new tricks in them that I've enjoyed exploring.

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Follow the path of Jesus.
That's a good idea. Will you join with me in applying James 1:19, 20? I will start by making this my final comment in this conversation.
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Quick comment from me, my two Win7 machines use onboard video. I'm not a gamer but do enjoy movies, onboard video plays almost everything out there. But that probably makes me old fashioned too :p



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Originally posted by creaky:
Quick comment from me, my two Win7 machines use onboard video. I'm not a gamer but do enjoy movies, onboard video plays almost everything out there. But that probably makes me old fashioned too :p
What are the chip sets watch any HD video on them?
my uncel has a ADM 2X turoin laptop with vista but ti handles videos great I think it has a 9800 or 8100 ninvida chipset.

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They're Dell Optiplex 745 SFF's, video is 'Intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family' (the chip is a GMA 3000), am currently playing a 1080p x264 MKV file, plays beautifully.



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3 percent, 3 measly percent. And they are calling windows 7 a success. What is the world coming to. Even Vista was more beloved when it made it's much herald debut.
I only have one opinion on windows 7.
"Windows 7 is what we thought it was, if you want to crown it's a$$ go ahead, but windows 7 is what we thought it was and we left it off the hook." slams microphone and storms out of room.
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Originally posted by windsong:
I tried out w7 yesterday on my e8400 with 3 gigs. The performance was OK, but the rapefest that was windows explorer (as well as no classic taskbar, no quickstart, and the stupid search bar) killed it for me. Went back to XP. Happy as a clam :)
so you went back to XP..lol..a lot of w7 users complaining that their software completely messed up because of incompatibility...

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