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C4eva, FW is undetectable.
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[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> c4eva : lots of rumors/speculation
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> as usual
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> fw is detectable
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> etc etc
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> activate iso is detectable blah blah
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> realisticly sum1 said u mentioned new/stronger
challenges
[02:56] <@[X]nWo[X]> on media
[02:57] <+c4eva> just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61
[02:58] <@[X]nWo[X]> excellent news
[02:58] <+dialtone> u the man
[02:58] <@[X]nWo[X]> anything new in the live logs ?
[02:59] <+c4eva> One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs) , another is running a backup from my region!
[03:00] <+c4eva> Testing is ongoing! Live logs are done daily, no changes!
[03:01] <+c4eva> until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw!
[03:04] <+c4eva> live logs look good!
[03:06] <+c4eva> fw itself not detectable!
[03:06] <+dialtone> thats forsure hehe
[03:06] <+dialtone> knew it wasnt gonna be that
[03:11] <+c4eva> they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx!
[03:11] <+dialtone> but i cant wait to do a victory dance on the proven track record of bad rips =p
[03:12] <+dialtone> thats why me and fishy are unbanned cuz we have been stict on verified only online boots for the past year since last wave
[03:12] <+Fishcake> see, this is why kids shouldn't rip :>
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JediOrc
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7. November 2009 @ 06:29 |
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This is FANTASTIC NEWS. But im thinking what about the find that happened just recently: http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/...happend-812492/
I am not a pc/network jocky or anything so I don't know much about this (so go easy on flaming) but I think if c4eva doesnt see this then someone should at least bring this up to his attention. if this is not the case than MAYBE it is a possible way to BLOCK m$... just thinking out loud.
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7. November 2009 @ 08:04 |
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That is good news, shows a few peeps on here have been telling porkies.
@ JediOrc wouldnt pay too much attention to that thread, he may have set his nework up in a funky way. Doesnt really mean much.
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gameover9
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7. November 2009 @ 09:51 |
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blame abgx? Seems they had some wrong info on some games. And changing the region.
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qwert99
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7. November 2009 @ 11:00 |
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Originally posted by gameover9:
blame abgx? Seems they had some wrong info on some games. And changing the region.
I certainly wouldn't mind seeing better security and verification checks come from ABGX as a result of this.
Using only one person's stealth files/etc to verify a rip is pretty stupid, IMO. There should be a two or three person minimum before a rip receives official verification.
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gameover9
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7. November 2009 @ 11:46 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
Originally posted by gameover9:
blame abgx? Seems they had some wrong info on some games. And changing the region.
I certainly wouldn't mind seeing better security and verification checks come from ABGX as a result of this.
Using only one person's stealth files/etc to verify a rip is pretty stupid, IMO. There should be a two or three person minimum before a rip receives official verification.
agreed. I'll even help upload the proper files. Problem is I can't pay to rent them all LOL
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7. November 2009 @ 11:49 |
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I think the bigger problem is that the process is so shrouded in secrecy and mystery. I would have no idea how to go about uploading my files to ABGX, and I am more familiar with this area than many amateurs.
If the process were more open, it would help things along, I think.
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7. November 2009 @ 11:53 |
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Maybe people can calm down a little for now especially over blaming the modified firmware as the culprit.
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7. November 2009 @ 12:13 |
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Eh, I just got banned, but honestly it was probably because I had to spoof a drive.
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manu07
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7. November 2009 @ 12:18 |
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Originally posted by deluxe247:
Eh, I just got banned, but honestly it was probably because I had to spoof a drive.
naw i got a spoofed drive on one of my consoles and im fine
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7. November 2009 @ 14:07 |
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Well, I never played anything early and always 100% checked everything through ABGX. So something else got me I guess.
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7. November 2009 @ 15:35 |
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@Deluxe247
Have you not been reading the thread. It might be ABGX that is helping people get caught, by changing regions.
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7. November 2009 @ 15:45 |
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abgx360 isn't capable of changing the region of a game.
I had been wondering about abgx360 verified games being used as a detection method though. If you download scene releases, you're going to end up with a mix of games from NTSC and PAL sources, as the scene rules considers an NTSC release a dupe if a PAL release already exists and vice versa. The DMI changes depending on where the game was manufactured. If you verify all of your games with autofix set to level 3, that means you have a mix of NTSC and PAL sourced games, all with the EXACT same details as the games in the verification database. If you bought all of your games legally, what are the chances of that happening? Sometimes everything will check out but abgx360 will say "DMI is unverified" and autofix just that. By doing that, you could inadvertently be making yourself more of a target.
Obviously, there's no proof for any of that, it's just a theory. I can't believe that the bans come down to "incorrect use of abgx" though, because there are people that have ripped their own games who don't autofix with abgx360 and they have also been banned. Incorrect use of abgx360 may be one of the things that's leading to bans, but it can't be the only thing.
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7. November 2009 @ 16:39 |
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Very good point, funk.
Certainly seems like a plausible detection mechanism.
However, as you say, there does seem to be more going on here now than simply playing bad rips, or abgx, for the reasons you state.
I am not convinced that MS can read firmware from the drives yet, and I will defer to c4eva on that issue. He knows much more than I ever will about that.
Did anyone that used a connection kit AND played only their own rips get banned?
Perhaps the DVD drive disconnect flag is finally coming into play. However, if that is what this is all based off of, we would be seeing people with unmodified drives who did a pot calibration getting banned as well.
Has anyone seen a case such as that?
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7. November 2009 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
Very good point, funk.
Certainly seems like a plausible detection mechanism.
However, as you say, there does seem to be more going on here now than simply playing bad rips, or abgx, for the reasons you state.
I am not convinced that MS can read firmware from the drives yet, and I will defer to c4eva on that issue. He knows much more than I ever will about that.
Did anyone that used a connection kit AND played only their own rips get banned?
Perhaps the DVD drive disconnect flag is finally coming into play. However, if that is what this is all based off of, we would be seeing people with unmodified drives who did a pot calibration getting banned as well.
Has anyone seen a case such as that?
I hope not, just for the fact Dred05 may be right!!!! Still he was a ass though :D
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360lifer
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7. November 2009 @ 17:06 |
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He needs to run new machines with 1.51 and 1.6 to make it an complete test. If all three types of machines don't get banned then I'd believe him. Otherwise I'll just say he is using a new firmware version that wasn't out when MS came up with their new method.
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JediOrc
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7. November 2009 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
Very good point, funk.
Certainly seems like a plausible detection mechanism.
However, as you say, there does seem to be more going on here now than simply playing bad rips, or abgx, for the reasons you state.
I am not convinced that MS can read firmware from the drives yet, and I will defer to c4eva on that issue. He knows much more than I ever will about that.
Did anyone that used a connection kit AND played only their own rips get banned?
Perhaps the DVD drive disconnect flag is finally coming into play. However, if that is what this is all based off of, we would be seeing people with unmodified drives who did a pot calibration getting banned as well.
Has anyone seen a case such as that?
Well when I got my 360 just early last month I have been messing around with the drive since and when I put it back together I have yet to be banned (done this many times testing different possible key dumps). I obviously have the "unflashable" drive since I am still trying to key dump... So I think it is safe to rule out SATA.
EDIT: Also, used CK3 and tried 360 supply... trying different methods.
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7. November 2009 @ 17:21 |
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JediOrc, are you saying that you have been powering your drive with your 360 while trying to pull the key?
Perhaps the flag is in play, and it is just another 'point' to use against people. You need so many points to 'earn' a ban, and the disconnected SATA is just one of those.
As far as dred goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even if the flag has come into play, dred had no evidence what-so-ever to base his assertions on. He was being a jerk just to be a jerk. Nobody ever said that it was impossible that the disconnected SATA cable flag could come into play. Everyone simply said that there was no evidence of previous bannings due to that, which dred disagreed with, of course. He was a troll, plain and simple. Even if he was right, he was right for the wrong reasons. Even if we were wrong, we were wrong for the right reasons. I'll gladly belong to the latter category.
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assman21
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7. November 2009 @ 21:01 |
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I am getting sick of the 2000 threads that pop up everyday with useless info on banning's. Good lord guys just dont play online till the ban wave is over.
Btw C4eva is that dude. props to him.
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7. November 2009 @ 21:44 |
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Originally posted by assman21:
I am getting sick of the 2000 threads that pop up everyday with useless info on banning's. Good lord guys just dont play online till the ban wave is over.
Btw C4eva is that dude. props to him.
If you are already flagged for a banning, playing offline til the ban wave is over isn't going to help.
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8. November 2009 @ 02:44 |
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Would c4eva admit if it is detectable.I'm just saying he might not want to admit that MS have finally found a way.I hope he is right and it can't be detected but something funny is going on
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assman21
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8. November 2009 @ 05:22 |
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You seem to have experience in this subject perhaps it is because you are a afterdawn addict, too much of anything can make you an addict, like crack or heroine. Or sex 'etc,etc.
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8. November 2009 @ 06:33 |
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Originally posted by Chaser12:
Would c4eva admit if it is detectable.I'm just saying he might not want to admit that MS have finally found a way.I hope he is right and it can't be detected but something funny is going on
I have to agree here. I mean I hope he is right, but even if he is wrong he would be stupid to show his cards right now anyway before he knows 100% for sure. I'll leave it up to experts to figure that out, I'm relatively new to this scene. I guess time will tell.
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qwert99
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8. November 2009 @ 11:06 |
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Mod chip makers are jumping for joy right about now. If there was a publicly traded mod chip company, I'd be buying as much stock as I could afford...
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8. November 2009 @ 14:50 |
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The bad thign about Banned consoles, is that they cant use their HDD anymore for installing games (or play installed games). I dont mind not being able to play online, but I do care about the sound that my XBOX makes now playing discs.
They really went too far this time.
PS:What about Forza 3 that requires the installation of DVD2? (or anyother games of the like)
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