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7. November 2009 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A lot of questions are being asked about this, as previous bans only affected Xbox Live functionality. This new ban wave also has other negative effects on your console.

Article taken from Xbox-Scene: -

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Firstly, and most obviously, you cannot connect to Xbox Live on this console any more. This means no more game updates (aka title updates), XBLA games, marketplace content, netflix/sky player and so on. There is no way around this, all online capabilities are now disabled PERMANENTLY.

In all likelihood, your gamertag has NOT BEEN BANNED. When your gamertag gets banned, Microsoft sends you an email detailing why, if you have not recieved this email then your profile should be ok, to a certain extent.

Hard Drive installs are now disabled on the banned console. This means any disk-based games you have will no longer play off of the hard drive. If you attempt to play a game, it will tell you that it was installed on a different 360 and needs to be deleted/installed again. When you delete the game and attempt to install it, you are given a message telling you that it is not supported. There is no way to fix this, that functionality is simply gone from the banned 360.

The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality. Any installed games will need to be reinstalled for the console you want to play them on. This is normal behaviour and happens when swapping HDDs on unbanned/legit 360's.

Windows Media Centre functionality is disabled. It is still possible to stream video/music content via the video library.

Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.

The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either.

Your XBLA games and DLC will still be valid, however to play them on a different 360 you will need to be signed into Xbox Live. This is normal behaviour on unbanned/legit 360's as well. They may be corrupted and have to be re-downloaded if you attempt to access them on a banned 360. You can transfer all of your downloaded content to a new 360 here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/system...ion/default.htm however note that you can only do it once every 12 months.

So, in summary:
Your Banned 360:
* Cannot go on Xbox Live
* Cannot install games to the HDD
* Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender
* Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile

You cannot do anything about this, short of buying a new 360.

There may be more functionality disabled than mentioned here, things are still being discovered.
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7. November 2009 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We knew this already, its all been covered in the banning threads.



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7. November 2009 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by miketrev:
We knew this already, its all been covered in the banning threads.

And yet, many pages later people are still asking the same questions in that thread. At least in this thread, it's all listed in the first post so people can be clear what happens with a ban. Also, in the ban thread you have people saying "it doesn't corrupt your profile" or "it doesn't affect installs" so the info is contradictory and confusing and it's spread over 30+ pages.

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7. November 2009 @ 16:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Got ya, so this is kinda a summary or a re-cap ;)

Dont think it will stop the posts though, we still get questions about "If I unplug when i play backup games" or "Can I un ban myself".



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7. November 2009 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by miketrev:
Got ya, so this is kinda a summary or a re-cap ;)

Dont think it will stop the posts though, we still get questions about "If I unplug when i play backup games" or "Can I un ban myself".

Haha, very true mate. The questions never end, but at least we can say "look here!" and point them in the direction of this thread.
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7. November 2009 @ 16:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
add this to the sticky please
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7. November 2009 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
has any one that has been banned tried to revert to a older NXE to regain some features?

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7. November 2009 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by kingofall:
has any one that has been banned tried to revert to a older NXE to regain some features?
Think that's only possible with a Infuctus chip. I know at least one person on here has used that chip to unban themselves, its VERY complicated though



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7. November 2009 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
never really looked into it much. but will when my next console gets banned.

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7. November 2009 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by kingofall:
has any one that has been banned tried to revert to a older NXE to regain some features?

You can dump your 360's NAND before you get banned, then flash it back once you have been banned and it will restore the install to hard drive feature. There are guides out there.
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7. November 2009 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
flash it back once you have been banned and it will restore the install to hard drive feature. There are guides out there.
Sweet, didn't know this, can you link me to a guide please.



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7. November 2009 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by miketrev:
Originally posted by funksoulb:
flash it back once you have been banned and it will restore the install to hard drive feature. There are guides out there.
Sweet, didn't know this, can you link me to a guide please.

If you go to Xbox-Scene and search for "NAND dump" you will find a couple of guides and threads showing you what to do. There's also an app called "Nand Pro 2.0", if you Google for that. How you do it (or whether it's even possible) seems to depend on which hardware revision your 360 is, although I know virtually nothing about this and have only had a quick scan of a guide on Xbox-Scene. The one I looked at involved soldering and looked very complicated, so I decided to give it a miss. lol.
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8. November 2009 @ 16:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys I think I may have found a way to uncorrupt your game saves. My friend tried it last night and said it worked. First you need an unbanned 360. Next slap your"corrupted hard drive" on the unbanned 360. Now delete your gamer profile,BUT be sure to select just to delete the profile and keep everything that is attached to it. Once this is done sign on xbox live and recover the gamertag you just deleted. Once this is done all your gamesaves should be in perfect working condition.

I can't say myself if this works but my friend did it last night and said it worked.
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8. November 2009 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quik question.

Only people who have fifa 10 will know this.

So I have my virtual pro, now what's the best way so I can bring him over to my new not modden/banned xbox?

Btw. I'm not even sure if it's possible.

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8. November 2009 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MingFu:
Hey guys I think I may have found a way to uncorrupt your game saves. My friend tried it last night and said it worked. First you need an unbanned 360. Next slap your"corrupted hard drive" on the unbanned 360. Now delete your gamer profile,BUT be sure to select just to delete the profile and keep everything that is attached to it. Once this is done sign on xbox live and recover the gamertag you just deleted. Once this is done all your gamesaves should be in perfect working condition.

I can't say myself if this works but my friend did it last night and said it worked.

Anyone know if this is true?


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8. November 2009 @ 23:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xero_81:
Originally posted by MingFu:
Hey guys I think I may have found a way to uncorrupt your game saves. My friend tried it last night and said it worked. First you need an unbanned 360. Next slap your"corrupted hard drive" on the unbanned 360. Now delete your gamer profile,BUT be sure to select just to delete the profile and keep everything that is attached to it. Once this is done sign on xbox live and recover the gamertag you just deleted. Once this is done all your gamesaves should be in perfect working condition.

I can't say myself if this works but my friend did it last night and said it worked.

Anyone know if this is true?
Ya, that worked for me too
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8. November 2009 @ 23:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eh2244:
Originally posted by xero_81:
Originally posted by MingFu:
Hey guys I think I may have found a way to uncorrupt your game saves. My friend tried it last night and said it worked. First you need an unbanned 360. Next slap your"corrupted hard drive" on the unbanned 360. Now delete your gamer profile,BUT be sure to select just to delete the profile and keep everything that is attached to it. Once this is done sign on xbox live and recover the gamertag you just deleted. Once this is done all your gamesaves should be in perfect working condition.

I can't say myself if this works but my friend did it last night and said it worked.

Anyone know if this is true?
Ya, that worked for me too
awesome!! gonna try it tomorrow when I get new 360.


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9. November 2009 @ 00:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great information. Except I can't watch any movies or videos on my xbox, says media update is required except I obviously can't download any updates.
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9. November 2009 @ 01:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mazz0310:
Great information. Except I can't watch any movies or videos on my xbox, says media update is required except I obviously can't download any updates.

This happens if you switch consoles after downloading the update. The update is protected by DRM just like XBLA games. If you switch consoles after downloading it, it will only work when you're connected to Live with the gamertag that downloaded it. If you're banned, there's nothing you can do about this.
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9. November 2009 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One quick question. Can someone answer it straight and clear. If your console is banned can you still play games offline and SAVE YOUR GAME (not install the game on the HDD, just save your game (like position in say fallout)) and come back later and actually load your saved game or does that get corrupted? all of this is on the one banned console not trying to swap the HDD over to a non banned on...
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9. November 2009 @ 06:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Peety_x5:
One quick question. Can someone answer it straight and clear. If your console is banned can you still play games offline and SAVE YOUR GAME (not install the game on the HDD, just save your game (like position in say fallout)) and come back later and actually load your saved game or does that get corrupted? all of this is on the one banned console not trying to swap the HDD over to a non banned on...
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Saves only show up as corrupted when you try and connect your hard drive to a different console, so the answer to your question is yes.
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9. November 2009 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thankyou very much, can finally give my mate a straight answer haha
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9. November 2009 @ 06:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Originally posted by Peety_x5:
One quick question. Can someone answer it straight and clear. If your console is banned can you still play games offline and SAVE YOUR GAME (not install the game on the HDD, just save your game (like position in say fallout)) and come back later and actually load your saved game or does that get corrupted? all of this is on the one banned console not trying to swap the HDD over to a non banned on...
Cheers

Saves only show up as corrupted when you try and connect your hard drive to a different console, so the answer to your question is yes.
What should I do then if I want my savefiles not corrupted on another unbanned/not modded xbox?

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9. November 2009 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MingFu:
Hey guys I think I may have found a way to uncorrupt your game saves. My friend tried it last night and said it worked. First you need an unbanned 360. Next slap your"corrupted hard drive" on the unbanned 360. Now delete your gamer profile,BUT be sure to select just to delete the profile and keep everything that is attached to it. Once this is done sign on xbox live and recover the gamertag you just deleted. Once this is done all your gamesaves should be in perfect working condition.




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9. November 2009 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm. I thought there was a way to get achievements and bring them back on the other console?
 
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