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Blu-ray 'Managed Copy' to start in December, lacking hardware support
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 8 November, 2009
Due to its byline stipulations, beginning in December all Blu-ray titles will come with the option to make one "managed copy" (a legal backup).
However, for all current Blu-ray player owners as well as most near term future owners, your player will not have the capability to make the copies, making the feature useless.
AACS-LA chairman Michael Ayers says the Managed Copy is mandatory ... [ read the full article ]
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13. November 2009 @ 05:48 |
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You're buying a finished, polished product when you purchase a Blu-ray, complete with all the extras (garbage or not) I find the extra features work great on some Blu-ray's especially 'Wanted' (2008 film)the extra features were great, in-film menus with detailed information on the weapons etc, I thought that was great, and the PIP option of behind the scenes operations, while still watching the movie.
Prices just need to come down a little more, then i'll start buying more BDs.
This one-time copy option is ok I guess as long as therte's no charge, or what's the point?
Anyone know what type of copy removing software people use when copying Blu-rays... 'erm so I know what to avoid...' I'd never do anything illegal =),
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Daniel_1
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13. November 2009 @ 10:13 |
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And the strange thing is that you ALREADY can make a copy of anything you own from records to tapes to cd's to movies and it is covered under the fair use clause of the US Supreme Court Betamax decision. So it really must be so damn gracious of these idiots to say that they are going to allow us to do what the US Supreme Court has already said that we can do in a decision back in the 1970's!
And again, just HOW are we suppose to make a copy of something when these dweebs have made it illegal for us to actually have programs that will allow us to make this mythical "extra" copy?
Something stinks in Denmark, and it AINT the cheese!
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14. November 2009 @ 10:44 |
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After a bit of surfing and research, it's a piece of cake to copy a Blu-ray, so much for their copy-protection software, erm not that I'll do it of course lol
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14. November 2009 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by Mombasa69:
After a bit of surfing and research, it's a piece of cake to copy a Blu-ray, so much for their copy-protection software, erm not that I'll do it of course lol
I will and I dare these dumbarses to try and do a damn thing to me as the second they do I will BURY them in a court of law as they will have to show under what US Constitutional Authority they can stop me from making a copy of my movies...bluray or not!
C'Mon RIAA/MPAA make my day, I DARE ya!
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16. November 2009 @ 08:33 |
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well we're stuck with pre-recorded media wether you like it or not, my ISP has just restricted my download 'fair usage policy apparently) even though I'm paying for unlimited downloads.
How can downloading / downstreaming kill off pre-recorded media when bloody ISP's restrict bandwidth ffs?...
I hate living in the UK.
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Daniel_1
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16. November 2009 @ 11:15 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mombasa69:
After a bit of surfing and research, it's a piece of cake to copy a Blu-ray, so much for their copy-protection software, erm not that I'll do it of course lol
I will and I dare these dumbarses to try and do a damn thing to me as the second they do I will BURY them in a court of law as they will have to show under what US Constitutional Authority they can stop me from making a copy of my movies...bluray or not!
C'Mon RIAA/MPAA make my day, I DARE ya!
Sorry I should have been more specific. I should have said under what authority or law that would superced the US Supreme Court Betamax Decision that allows me to make copies of legally bought games/apps/music/and movies for my own personal use and as many damn times as I want to do it. Last time I looked, the US Supreme Court had the final say in this....lol.
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16. November 2009 @ 14:03 |
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You're allowed by law to have one copy wether it's VHS/DVD/Blu-ray or whatever, as long as you've paid for an original, a friend of mine was selling ripped DVDs at a car boot, and was recently fined £22,000, had all his stock and new van taken too.
I mean the poor guy's only trying to make a bloody living lol.
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Daniel_1
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17. November 2009 @ 00:22 |
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Originally posted by Mombasa69:
You're allowed by law to have one copy wether it's VHS/DVD/Blu-ray or whatever, as long as you've paid for an original, a friend of mine was selling ripped DVDs at a car boot, and was recently fined £22,000, had all his stock and new van taken too.
I mean the poor guy's only trying to make a bloody living lol.
Then maybe he should be giving them away for a small donation. Since he is not selling them whats the harm?
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17. November 2009 @ 04:52 |
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Originally posted by Daniel_1:
Originally posted by Mombasa69:
You're allowed by law to have one copy wether it's VHS/DVD/Blu-ray or whatever, as long as you've paid for an original, a friend of mine was selling ripped DVDs at a car boot, and was recently fined £22,000, had all his stock and new van taken too.
I mean the poor guy's only trying to make a bloody living lol.
Then maybe he should be giving them away for a small donation. Since he is not selling them whats the harm?
No, you WERE allowed to do this. THE DMCA overruled the old rulings from the 1970's. You are not allowed to have a backup of anything anymore. Even taking a screenshot is now illigal....Heil Hitler!
They have effectivly declaired me a pirate. I have often posted screenshots and even a few gameplay videos online with the hope of getting friends to buy the game. Doing this is now illigal, and they prosecute people who did so before it became illigal. Considering that I am a pirate anyway, I might as well just start pirating software and music...then I'll start boarding ships at sea to hostage off the sailors. It's all piracy, so I might as well do it right!
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Daniel_1
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17. November 2009 @ 09:22 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by Daniel_1:
Originally posted by Mombasa69:
You're allowed by law to have one copy wether it's VHS/DVD/Blu-ray or whatever, as long as you've paid for an original, a friend of mine was selling ripped DVDs at a car boot, and was recently fined £22,000, had all his stock and new van taken too.
I mean the poor guy's only trying to make a bloody living lol.
Then maybe he should be giving them away for a small donation. Since he is not selling them whats the harm?
No, you WERE allowed to do this. THE DMCA overruled the old rulings from the 1970's. You are not allowed to have a backup of anything anymore. Even taking a screenshot is now illigal....Heil Hitler!
They have effectivly declaired me a pirate. I have often posted screenshots and even a few gameplay videos online with the hope of getting friends to buy the game. Doing this is now illigal, and they prosecute people who did so before it became illigal. Considering that I am a pirate anyway, I might as well just start pirating software and music...then I'll start boarding ships at sea to hostage off the sailors. It's all piracy, so I might as well do it right!
And your ignorance of the law is breathtaking. You still ARE allowed to make a copy of what you purchased legally and even the DMCA clearly states that. Where they get you is the DMCA has made it illegal to OWN a program to make the copies. There is a major difference here and you would have known that had you bothered to read the bill. Section 1201(E)(2)(a)(b)
`(E) Neither the exception under subparagraph (B) from the applicability of the prohibition contained in subparagraph (A), nor any determination made in a rulemaking conducted under subparagraph (C), may be used as a defense in any action to enforce any provision of this title other than this paragraph.
`(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that--
`(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
`(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
DO YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THERE that says you cannot copy your own purchased items? If you do then you have better eyes then over 500,000 judges attorneys and patent officers. And if by chance you think you have a loophole, please post it as I am sure the EFF would love to know about it as even THEY state you have the right to copy your cd/dvd/movie...you just dont have the right to sell them or post them on the net. Jeeze Louise, this is common knowledge now being taught in grade school and in Jr High and I knew this when I graduated High School back in the Jurassic period. So what exactly is your malfunction that you seemingly do not or did not know this????
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18. November 2009 @ 14:17 |
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Hmm, what about owning a device like the Macromaster scart box for removing copy protection from DVDs for DVD to DVD (or VHS) standalone recording, that isn't using a computer programme, so guess that's legal?
One will eventually come out for Blu-ray.
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