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ebxtreme
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10. November 2009 @ 00:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
C4Eva announced he's working on a new firmware on IRC:

"[c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!"

We do not have more details atm.
As far as we know the 3 'test boxes' C4Eva has running are still fine (not banned).
So there's NO ETA for the firmware yet (dont ask) but it should come out for Lite-On drives first.

News-Source: #fw@EFNet

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mazz0310
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10. November 2009 @ 00:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow, a no ban firmware would be amazing but there of course is no way for him to be 100% sure.
Chaser12
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10. November 2009 @ 01:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Didn't he tell everyone that they can't detect the firmware the other day now he say they can? What to believe
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10. November 2009 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Chaser12:
Didn't he tell everyone that they can't detect the firmware the other day now he say they can? What to believe

He doesn't say that they can detect the firmware. He just says that this new version will be indistinguishable from the original, which isn't the same thing.

This is great news anyway!
qwert99
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10. November 2009 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Originally posted by Chaser12:
Didn't he tell everyone that they can't detect the firmware the other day now he say they can? What to believe

He doesn't say that they can detect the firmware. He just says that this new version will be indistinguishable from the original, which isn't the same thing.

This is great news anyway!
Well, he also says "no more bans", which does sort of imply that the firmware is detectable. But who knows. I guess we will just have to wait and see the official word.

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palidin
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10. November 2009 @ 02:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
totally agree lol no more bans sounds fishy
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10. November 2009 @ 02:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To all you people, if you don't trust C4Eva then don't flash your drive with his firmware. You should be thankful for what he did with the modding community. No C4Eva=no firmware=no backup games to play. So suck it up and appreciated what the man accomplished.
palidin
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10. November 2009 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes we will "appreciated" what the man did just good to know what (might) be the reason for all the bans.
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10. November 2009 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by qwert99:
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Originally posted by Chaser12:
Didn't he tell everyone that they can't detect the firmware the other day now he say they can? What to believe

He doesn't say that they can detect the firmware. He just says that this new version will be indistinguishable from the original, which isn't the same thing.

This is great news anyway!
Well, he also says "no more bans", which does sort of imply that the firmware is detectable. But who knows. I guess we will just have to wait and see the official word.
Would have to agree with qwert99. He says "indistinguishable" from the original f/w. Well, the only entity that would be interested in "distinguishing" your firmware would be M$.

I know this is only the beginning...once the ones in the know figure out what M$ is doing to obtain info...those measures will be circumvented...then patched....then circumvented....sound familiar?
360lifer
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10. November 2009 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, it's nice to know why the liteon .61 hasn't come out yet. Thou, I know quite a few people who would rather just have the .61 since they don't have to worry about bannings anymore.

Now, if we can just get some info about whats taking the ABGX ppl so dang long.


qwert99
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10. November 2009 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 360lifer:
Well, it's nice to know why the liteon .61 hasn't come out yet. Thou, I know quite a few people who would rather just have the .61 since they don't have to worry about bannings anymore.

Now, if we can just get some info about whats taking the ABGX ppl so dang long.

1.51 doesn't do stealth or video partition/CFI checks AFAIK. So a downgrade to 1.51 would accomplish the same goal.

Originally posted by CJ007:
To all you people, if you don't trust C4Eva then don't flash your drive with his firmware. You should be thankful for what he did with the modding community. No C4Eva=no firmware=no backup games to play. So suck it up and appreciated what the man accomplished.

Reading comprehension FTW.

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WJ99
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10. November 2009 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
EDIT. I can be so stupid sometimes and skip a few lines

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WJ99
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10. November 2009 @ 10:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure if this is good or not.

If the firmware was detectable, then it's good because we now can develop firmware to counter it, but then we know Microsoft CAN detect firmwares of drives.

If it was ABGX then we have a fundamental flaw in the way we stealth our games, with no alternative at the moment.

Tricky one, but people who know more can expand on this.
danny2740
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10. November 2009 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just been reading up do you think microsoft were desperate and this was a last ditch attempt ban all suspected because iextreme was getting good? Look at support you get ignored and the same answers all the time on xbox.com??? stepto for once is been quiet he normally braggs over his ban waves???? I e-mailed him thanking him for my new xbox because i clawed all my money back from CC company he never responded and like i posted earlier xbox.com forums deleted my post letting people know they can claim back!!!
gameover9
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10. November 2009 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by danny2740:
Just been reading up do you think microsoft were desperate and this was a last ditch attempt ban all suspected because iextreme was getting good? Look at support you get ignored and the same answers all the time on xbox.com??? stepto for once is been quiet he normally braggs over his ban waves???? I e-mailed him thanking him for my new xbox because i clawed all my money back from CC company he never responded and like i posted earlier xbox.com forums deleted my post letting people know they can claim back!!!
No offense but you're an idiot. I think for one his inbox probably has over a million emails. He probably dropped his email to a new account anyway. On a side note: hopefully we'll see this firmware in the next few weeks...
gcooldude
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10. November 2009 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not that this will help my banned console but will update it anyways, and if it eliminates bans in the future I will buy a new console and mod it again.
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10. November 2009 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kudos...thnX very much.....(C4Eva =)
jf1981
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10. November 2009 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
coo, just bought a new box. Was thinking if flashing it but now I'll just wait for this.
zorc2o9
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10. November 2009 @ 23:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anyone know if this will have a fix for the 2 types of unmoddable liteons?
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10. November 2009 @ 23:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by zorc2o9:
Does anyone know if this will have a fix for the 2 types of unmoddable liteons?
depends if the FW can be dumped by then.

Come talk with us on efnet at #elitemods !!! or just click ME

ALSO, DO NOT SEND ME MESSAGES ON LIVE REGARDING MODDING CONSOLES, OR HOW I PLAYED A CERTAIN GAME EARLY. I WILL NOT RESPOND. I WILL INSTEAD DELETE YOUR MESSAGE, AND BLOCK ALL COMMUNICATION FROM YOU. JUST SEND ME A PM ON HERE.
zorc2o9
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10. November 2009 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wabashman:
Originally posted by zorc2o9:
Does anyone know if this will have a fix for the 2 types of unmoddable liteons?
depends if the FW can be dumped by then.

Since you, wabashman, have obviously been at the 360 scene longer than I have, do you believe that the new firmwares can be dumped? I know nothing if for sure.
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10. November 2009 @ 23:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
eventually yes. anytime soon, i doubt it. going off of how the original LO was 'undumpable' i say give if a few months, and a way will be found.

however, i should restate what i said. they can dump the drive, just have no way of obtaining the key from it. so once that is figured out, then we will be able to hack it.

Come talk with us on efnet at #elitemods !!! or just click ME

ALSO, DO NOT SEND ME MESSAGES ON LIVE REGARDING MODDING CONSOLES, OR HOW I PLAYED A CERTAIN GAME EARLY. I WILL NOT RESPOND. I WILL INSTEAD DELETE YOUR MESSAGE, AND BLOCK ALL COMMUNICATION FROM YOU. JUST SEND ME A PM ON HERE.
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11. November 2009 @ 00:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
removed......

Come talk with us on efnet at #elitemods !!! or just click ME

ALSO, DO NOT SEND ME MESSAGES ON LIVE REGARDING MODDING CONSOLES, OR HOW I PLAYED A CERTAIN GAME EARLY. I WILL NOT RESPOND. I WILL INSTEAD DELETE YOUR MESSAGE, AND BLOCK ALL COMMUNICATION FROM YOU. JUST SEND ME A PM ON HERE.

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qwert99
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11. November 2009 @ 00:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I feel like I just watched a cliff-hanger season finale TV episode.

Will c4eva reveal how the firmware is detected??

Tune in next time to find out!

$38 on new discs -- Check
$15 on burn after burn that showed as a DVD -- Check
$11 on new laser -- Check
$28 on new multimeter -- Check
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scr34m360
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11. November 2009 @ 00:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lmao..ugh i wanted to flash my lite-on tomorrow lol. i dont know if i will until this new fw is released..but than again they havent banned everyone, could get lucky.

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