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New Snow Leopard update bricks 'Hackintoshes'
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article published on 10 November, 2009
The new OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard update from Apple was released this week with much needed bug fixes but with a few unwanted fixes as well.
'Hackintoshes,' netbooks hacked to run Snow Leopard on Intel Atom processors, will no longer be able to run the operating system.
Mac OS X 10.6.2 will "enhance the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac," says Apple, while fixing 36 ... [ read the full article ]
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Gidgid
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10. November 2009 @ 16:23 |
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Hrm. Sensationalist headline much?
Yes, the update renders the OS dead on a hackintosh netbook with the atom CPU.
That is NOT the same thing as bricking the hardware.
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hendrix04
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10. November 2009 @ 17:02 |
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yeah, last i checked, a broken OS on a PC does not make the firmware lock up and prevent it from booting at all. This definitely does not brick the netbook...
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Amak
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10. November 2009 @ 17:48 |
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Apple stopping users from making choices...ahh, gotta love hypocrisy:D
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10. November 2009 @ 18:22 |
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There are probably more "hackentoshes" then there are actual, Apple computers runing snow lepord.
Apple is a bit player, down there with Linux and "others" in the single digits. They should welcome this use of their software.
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10. November 2009 @ 18:59 |
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Originally posted by Amak:
Apple stopping users from making choices...ahh, gotta love hypocrisy:D
Seems to be the apple way. Sometimes I wish they would open up their OS to run on non-Apple branded hardware to run legally. Had a situation today where a student brought in a file created on a Mac and could not open it on a PC so I had to go interrupt a class to borrow an iMac in the lab just to open the file and print it and convert it to a more universally friendly format. If I could run the OS and iSeries software included in a VM workstation it would make my life easier. It's nice to be able to Run Windows 7 as my main OS and have virtual workstations for XP, Linux and other OSes for testing and usage all on one desktop. You talk to Apple about that and they say "Well maybe you should use a Mac and then you can run them all". I'm sorry I like having my tower computer with expandable options and dual 24" HD LCD displays and I am not going to trade that for a totally integrated iMac or spend $2500+ on a Mac Pro even if the school district I work for would be footing the bill. Waste of money. I have been tempted to run a "Hackintosh" VM but not about to violate licensing.
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10. November 2009 @ 19:50 |
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Originally posted by Gidgid:
Hrm. Sensationalist headline much?
Yes, the update renders the OS dead on a hackintosh netbook with the atom CPU.
That is NOT the same thing as bricking the hardware.
You are right, I forgot how much fun you can have with your netbook when the operating system doesn't work. There is the boot menu among other great features...
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10. November 2009 @ 20:50 |
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Originally posted by Gidgid:
Hrm. Sensationalist headline much?
Yes, the update renders the OS dead on a hackintosh netbook with the atom CPU.
That is NOT the same thing as bricking the hardware.
You are right, I forgot how much fun you can have with your netbook when the operating system doesn't work. There is the boot menu among other great features...
I think what he meant is the term "brick" usually means unusable in any fashion like fried the motherboard or processor. The OS going dead just means installing another OS or if you want to "hackintosh" it wait and do not update until another work around is found.
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scum101
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10. November 2009 @ 21:01 |
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This is what you get for "stealing" a proprietary OS .. and a pretty crap one at that.
btw idiot.. linux has something like 40% of the worlds desktops..(and on systems 8 years old and more it's more like 90%) they aren't sold in shops and linux isn't sold in shops.. because it's free. That is why non M$ and crapple systems appear in the single figures.. the commercial companies only count over the counter sales.... another f---in rocket scientist I see.
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10. November 2009 @ 21:19 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
This is what you get for "stealing" a proprietary OS .. and a pretty crap one at that.
btw idiot.. linux has something like 40% of the worlds desktops..(and on systems 8 years old and more it's more like 90%) they aren't sold in shops and linux isn't sold in shops.. because it's free. That is why non M$ and crapple systems appear in the single figures.. the commercial companies only count over the counter sales.... another f---in rocket scientist I see.
Think your numbers are a bit off there pal. OS usage is not determined by sales alone. Internet access plays a huge role and while it may not be 100% accurate but it does capture pretty darn close seeing as 99% of the desktop usage world uses a computer to get on the internet. Now some of these machines may be running multiple OSes but it all comes down to the one that is used the most and Linux on 40% of the desktops is a huge exhaggeration based on no hard evidence.
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ddp
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10. November 2009 @ 21:28 |
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bobiroc, watch it as scum101 knows what she is talking about.
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xnonsuchx
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10. November 2009 @ 21:32 |
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Yeah...TOTALLY overblown (ignorant?) article title. MOST OS updates to 'hackintosh' PCs will stop the OS from booting right if not done carefully. Most people with them don't even install OS updates immediately until they've heard via OSX86 forums whether there are issues with the update and, if so, how to bypass/fix them.
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10. November 2009 @ 21:34 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
bobiroc, watch it as scum101 knows what she is talking about.
Well I think her figures are a bit skewed. While the percentages are based partially off sales from OEMs, retail and system builders it is not all the only way these numbers get analyzed. Maybe linux is used on more desktops than what the numbers say but nearly half? Doubtful.
And why should I watch it? Did I say something wrong. I didn't call anyone names like she did referring to an earlier poster calling them an idiot. Usually hostile people like her are FUD spreaders and liars. Just an observation and no direct implication being made here.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 10. November 2009 @ 21:40
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10. November 2009 @ 21:57 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
bobiroc, watch it as scum101 knows what she is talking about.
Well I think her figures are a bit skewed. While the percentages are based partially off sales from OEMs, retail and system builders it is not all the only way these numbers get analyzed. Maybe linux is used on more desktops than what the numbers say but nearly half? Doubtful.
And why should I watch it? Did I say something wrong. I didn't call anyone names like she did referring to an earlier poster calling them an idiot. Usually hostile people like her are FUD spreaders and liars. Just an observation and no direct implication being made here.
You can't argue w/ Linux zealots. They are totally right all the time (even if all in their heads), so there's no way to correct them on anything they claim. Just let them be and don't malign their OS of worship and they'll be less likely to blow up in your face.
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11. November 2009 @ 01:55 |
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Snow Leopord is just a crippled, crummy version of Linux. I'd rather run android on a netbook (if it was possible). Apple does not want me to use their software on a non-mac, and their systems are clearly designed to keep me away (even ignoring the insane prices). Screw apple...Zune is better than iPod, Droid is better than iPhone, and Windows 7 is better than Snow Leapord.
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plazma247
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11. November 2009 @ 03:23 |
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11. November 2009 @ 03:52 |
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11. November 2009 @ 08:01 |
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yeah it's not bricked,If you install the update your hackintosh will get stuck in a reboot loop.
There is already patched kernels floating around I give it a week or two and it will be fixed.
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11. November 2009 @ 08:41 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
This is what you get for "stealing" a proprietary OS .. and a pretty crap one at that.
btw idiot.. linux has something like 40% of the worlds desktops..(and on systems 8 years old and more it's more like 90%) they aren't sold in shops and linux isn't sold in shops.. because it's free. That is why non M$ and crapple systems appear in the single figures.. the commercial companies only count over the counter sales.... another f---in rocket scientist I see.
Think your numbers are a bit off there pal. OS usage is not determined by sales alone. Internet access plays a huge role and while it may not be 100% accurate but it does capture pretty darn close seeing as 99% of the desktop usage world uses a computer to get on the internet. Now some of these machines may be running multiple OSes but it all comes down to the one that is used the most and Linux on 40% of the desktops is a huge exhaggeration based on no hard evidence.
He got the decimal place wrong it should have been 4% and that is most likely high too. LOL
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11. November 2009 @ 08:43 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
There are probably more "hackentoshes" then there are actual, Apple computers runing snow lepord.
Apple is a bit player, down there with Linux and "others" in the single digits. They should welcome this use of their software.
Absolutely agree with that but that isn't the Job's way which is why his OS hasn't hit the main stream like Windows.
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12. November 2009 @ 02:30 |
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FIXED (Where is the new news article?)
Thanks goes out to meklort
What you need to do is the following
1) Download NetbookInstaller 0.8.3 RC4 (from google code website).
2) Run it. You absolutely *must* make sure that it installs the bootloader and extensions (default behavior).
3) Reboot
4) Installer 10.6.2.
5) Reboot.
5) Run NebtookInstaller, specifically to patch the new extensions in 10.6.2
use at your own risk
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xnonsuchx
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12. November 2009 @ 03:52 |
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Originally posted by NINVIN21:
FIXED (Where is the new news article?)
Thanks goes out to meklort
What you need to do is the following
1) Download NetbookInstaller 0.8.3 RC4 (from google code website).
2) Run it. You absolutely *must* make sure that it installs the bootloader and extensions (default behavior).
3) Reboot
4) Installer 10.6.2.
5) Reboot.
5) Run NebtookInstaller, specifically to patch the new extensions in 10.6.2
use at your own risk
Saying something like this is fixed isn't as sensationalistic as an article title that sounds like Apple did something evilly wrong, so not worth telling.
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12. November 2009 @ 06:03 |
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Saying something like this is fixed isn't as sensationalistic as an article title that sounds like Apple did something evilly wrong, so not worth telling.
They did do something wrong...they intentionaly dissabled software that people paid for just because they chose not to use the larger, less powerfull, more expensive netbooks made by apple. Imagine the uproad if microsoft released a patch to keep Windows 7 from working with computers made by Gateway! Heck, even if they did something to keep it from installing on the mac...
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12. November 2009 @ 06:20 |
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Originally posted by Gidgid:
Hrm. Sensationalist headline much?
Yes, the update renders the OS dead on a hackintosh netbook with the atom CPU.
That is NOT the same thing as bricking the hardware.
You are right, I forgot how much fun you can have with your netbook when the operating system doesn't work. There is the boot menu among other great features...
umm... You can just reinstall the OS, so there goes your insult. Please be smarter before you speak.
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xnonsuchx
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12. November 2009 @ 22:07 |
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Saying something like this is fixed isn't as sensationalistic as an article title that sounds like Apple did something evilly wrong, so not worth telling.
They did do something wrong...they intentionaly dissabled software that people paid for just because they chose not to use the larger, less powerfull, more expensive netbooks made by apple. Imagine the uproad if microsoft released a patch to keep Windows 7 from working with computers made by Gateway! Heck, even if they did something to keep it from installing on the mac...
FAIL much?
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13. November 2009 @ 22:00 |
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Saying something like this is fixed isn't as sensationalistic as an article title that sounds like Apple did something evilly wrong, so not worth telling.
They did do something wrong...they intentionaly dissabled software that people paid for just because they chose not to use the larger, less powerfull, more expensive netbooks made by apple. Imagine the uproad if microsoft released a patch to keep Windows 7 from working with computers made by Gateway! Heck, even if they did something to keep it from installing on the mac...
FAIL much?
very much a fail
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