Originally posted by fudpucker:

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your missing something, thats for sure!

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Originally posted by fuel_f2f:

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See thats what I want to know... is there anything being transfered from the DVD drive to the system that tells it that its modified or is it all just firmware checks that live does to detect modders. If it is, then the dual drive idea is perfect for someone like me. I just don't want to spend $30 on a DVD drive I don't need.

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Originally posted by ddp:

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fudpucker, post deleted. do it again & i might delete you off this site so smarten up.

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Originally posted by gradeon:

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sounds like the stupidest idea ive ever heard.

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Originally posted by fuel_f2f:

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I wasn't sure if there was anything saved to the console to detect firmware or if it was basically a system check when going online in which my idea would have worked flawlessly and be less expensive than dual consoles. But since it saves to the 360, as soon as I plug in my firmware hacked drive it will flag my console and ban me when I go online I guess... well that idea out the window. Maybe I'll see if I can find a hacked and banned console on the cheap since over 600K were banned the other day.

Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it.

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Originally posted by ddp:

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John, he copied & pasted binkie's post without adding anything to it. that is called post padding which is frowned upon on this site.

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Originally posted by suddene:

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man there is a lot of anal ignorant replies, talking out of their butts with no sense or info to back it up..

anyway fuel_f2f : I been doing this for past month, no BAN, lots of info to prove my theory, so far so good, here is the discussion i started, hopefully that will help you solve your issue: would give u the direct link but not sure it is allowed so ill just paste the topic highlights:



"Okay this may or may not be helpful to others and although I searched many places to see if this is something commonly performe, I did not find anything about it, so far it is working for me flawlessly, might just be luck, who knows .
First off, I have five 360 consoles and 3 of the 4 I used to go online have been banned ( 2 Ben Q's and 1 Samsung were Banned, the 4th is Samsung ), the 4th one that I will explain below is not Banned and has survived the Ban Wave possibly with thistechnique. Once again, it could be a rare coincidence, but it could also be online still because of the technique i am using.
Anyway here is what I been doing in detail:
Basically I am using a Swap method involving 2 DVD drives. The Samsung 360 original Drive is unmodded, however I spoofed I?s Key onto a Ben-Q I had laying around and modded it with IXtreme1.6. When I want to go on Xbox Live, I just connect the two cables to the Samsung, and Live allows me to go on ,no Bans ( yet ) and all is well. When I want to play a Backup, I unplug Network, connect the "Spoofed" Ben-q and I play backups fine. simple as that. Sure , we do not know exactly thetechnique MicroShaft is using to detect Modded Consoles, but this technique has been working for weeks for me perfectly.
Some Background and Logic to this:

The Reason why I attempted this in the first place was as follows: I had acquired the Samsung 360 console like month ago, and it was E-74 and unbanned , so after performing heat-gun and X-Clamp fixes, I was able togo online with it. I began playing the game " Dragon Age: Origin" (Backup) on one of my modded consoles and after finishing the game, decided to purchase the 2 DLC's for it, of course the timing was pretty much around the time those consoles got Banned so I was **** out of luck . I couldn?t go online to Download the DLC's ( I had some Points in credit ) SO what I Did was take my un-modded Samsung 360 I had just fixed ( e-74), connect to pc, and mod it to Ixtreme16 ( doing this to Samsung for me was simple as ever, since just had to unplug cables , connect to pc, run jungleflasher, done ) After modding it, I began playing a new game of Dragon Age: Origins ( Backup) on the newly modded Samsung console, created a game save, turned game//console off. Keep in mind this is being done so I can try to download the DLCs . So I now had the save on my memory card/hard drive and needed togo online to get the DLC's but of course I didn?t want to go online LIVE with the Samsung I just modded (would be stupid). So I re-connected the Samsung back to pc, used Jungleflasher to restore/reflash my OG .bin file, restoring it back to "Stock". Now I do not know if I flash and restore like I Did that Microsoft could figure that out somehow and Ban Me, so I just took the risk, reconnected the "Stock" Samsung back again to console crossed fingers and went on LIVE and downloaded the DLC's with no problem, unplugged the ethernet and now I had my DLC's saved, only problem is I couldn?t play them because my Samsung 360 is "Stock" and of course the DLCs will only work with this console according to the DLC terms ( I can play it on another console, but need to go on live to sync it or some **** ,so transferring to one of my other back-up capable (Banned )consoles was out of the question. Anyway, so I re-connected the friggen Samsung back to pc, reflashed again with Iextreme16, and connected back to 360 offline and Bam, all DLCS are working fine and game running fine. So anyway to cut a long *** story short, I did that tiresometechnique few more times, like when I needed to go online to play a game or get demos, etc. and of course flashing back and forth modded, unmodded ( I know some say it can be bad doing so many flashes ) then I remembered I have several DVD drives lying around, 2 BenQs and a Hitachi from some deadconsoles I had so I basically spoofed the key of the Samsung to the extra Benq SO now, I just switch drives when I need to go online, or to play backups, been Ban Free and gone on live many times for the last 2 weeks, So who knows maybe it?s Luck, but I truly believe that Microshaft could not Ban/Figure me out through this method, anyone else done this or tried this would like to know if they too are clear of bans so far..
Hope this helps someone else, to be it sure is better than having two consoles, easier just to unplug the drive, since my consoles are not closes anyway. "




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Default Re: technique :Using LiVE - No Ban by Swapping DVD ...WORKS
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Originally Posted by Gresh View Post
I modded another new one also, I have a New lite 83 series 2009 Xbox. I modded it just like normal and I have not been banned either.


I don't quite understand what you mean, are you saying you are online Live with modded now and un banned? if so maybe you are flagged and your qeue time hasnt arrived, the thing is, in a sense ,technically, my 360 has never gone on LIVE with a "Modded" DVD drive connect, only the stock one, also theswapping was around the early days of the recent banning and one of my other 360's got banned days after the first time i did the swap on the Samsung drive..

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Originally Posted by Dannoo93 View Post
wow man thats a long process but wish i could have done that

Ya of course the swapping to pc and firmware switching was long process, but if you are talkin about what I am doing now, it is actually not long, even quicker, because: 1: my 360 is open from the top, I have a longer Sata cable connected, all i do when i want to swap is 2 steps, unplug the power and sata , then plug them onto the other drive, DONE. it's actually even easier than using another console for me, since doing that would involve plugging the power, the Video, the hard drive, etc.. i figure if this stays working, ill just rig up a half *** A/B type switch to change Drives simple as that


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Originally Posted by iamtheone View Post
wow, you open your console to switch between live and backup each time? Hell, i'd rather be banned lol. I got xlink kai anyway


check above statement.. also, you can not get DLC any other way except through Live and the 20 or so Arcade Games I have purchased on my account I can now play, but ya, Xlink is another good option

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Originally Posted by TheShow View Post
You know this posting has got me thinking that there must be another way to be on live undetected.

if you mean on live undetected with modded firmware, ya I am sure there are many, just finding them is the trick ya

Maybe what i am saying sounds stupid but I really dont understand the process that goes into the making of the modded firmware nor has c4 explained how his firmware works. Probably a good thing
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well apparently from this process I have been doing, I have come to the conclusion that the only way Micro**** is currently able to detect us is through the firmware, and not ( hopefully) Past or Future, just at the time it checks if we have the modded firmware it will know, i dont think any traces besides the drive can link them to it, since I have the same saves on my Hard drive ( which is a Homebrew 250) and memory cards and they are lugged in on live and still no ban

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Originally Posted by ZonatedHyperion View Post
Interesting, but yeah that does sound like a lot of work having to switch back and forth every time you want to go on live! Ha.

sounds like it yes, physically, like mentioned above, quicker than any other method

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