|
|
|
'Zombieland' director speaks of piracy, gets angry via Twitter
|
|
The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 21 November, 2009
Earlier this week, the writer and director of the popular movie Zombieland, Rhett Reese, lashed out at pirates of his movie, saying it may lead to a sequel not being shot. He even personally attacked a few Twitter members which had posted about downloading and watching the film from their homes.
Zombieland is available as an R5, and was one of the most popular films via P2P of the last three weeks.
... [ read the full article ]
Please read the original article before posting your comments.
|
Member
|
22. November 2009 @ 21:00 |
Link to this message
|
|
Creaky said it best. They did NOT keep up with the times. Add in the fact that no orginality is really being brewed. All just remakes from movies, TV shows, or cartoons from our past, and books.
You want me to drop $20.00 for just the tickers, $10.00 for popcorn and a soda. Then sit and listen to babies cry??? (yes this just happened while I watched 2010)
Espcially being that people spend thousands on home theater systems.
Instead why not main stream movies. I believe "Starz" is working on this. Have the movie set as a VOD available via the cable company. I would pay $10-$20 to see a movie from home.
But no. the *MPAA* chose to be stubborn and not realease the raines they have on the industry.
*was my edit
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. November 2009 @ 21:06
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
|
sssharp
Junior Member
|
22. November 2009 @ 21:06 |
Link to this message
|
People download movies as a good try before you buy. Many of these movies are not worth watching after 15-20 minutes. Can we get our cash back from the theater? Give us the option to purchase a ticket with the day pass option meaning if our main choice sucks, the next flick is an easy walk next door. That happened to me a few times giving me a good reason to stop going. Waiting a couple months is no problem for a good copy here. A good way to help make a little more money, release the dvd the day of the theater release. If we pay the theater dont count on a second purchase to get the dvd also.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
22. November 2009 @ 21:35 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by sssharp:
People download movies as a good try before you buy. Many of these movies are not worth watching after 15-20 minutes. Can we get our cash back from the theater? Give us the option to purchase a ticket with the day pass option meaning if our main choice sucks, the next flick is an easy walk next door. That happened to me a few times giving me a good reason to stop going. Waiting a couple months is no problem for a good copy here. A good way to help make a little more money, release the dvd the day of the theater release. If we pay the theater dont count on a second purchase to get the dvd also.
Yup give us more options and perhaps we would not bother with alternatives, 10$ discs at the film launch, 15$ special edition discs with better editing a few months after. Day after streaming of films for 7$ a film without an account with a 5$ a month account you get the film as a rental for the month.
Hell give me a descent SD release of a film for 7$ a stream and I am in, but know they want their old and tired monopolies and nothing else, so to them I say screw off.
|
Newbie
|
23. November 2009 @ 15:55 |
Link to this message
|
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 22 November 2009 18:35
Originally posted by sssharp:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
People download movies as a good try before you buy. Many of these movies are not worth watching after 15-20 minutes. Can we get our cash back from the theater? Give us the option to purchase a ticket with the day pass option meaning if our main choice sucks, the next flick is an easy walk next door. That happened to me a few times giving me a good reason to stop going. Waiting a couple months is no problem for a good copy here. A good way to help make a little more money, release the dvd the day of the theater release. If we pay the theater dont count on a second purchase to get the dvd also.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup give us more options and perhaps we would not bother with alternatives, 10$ discs at the film launch, 15$ special edition discs with better editing a few months after. Day after streaming of films for 7$ a film without an account with a 5$ a month account you get the film as a rental for the month.
Hell give me a descent SD release of a film for 7$ a stream and I am in, but know they want their old and tired monopolies and nothing else, so to them I say screw off.
-----------
everyone should read that a couple of times. that, by far, is the best idea yet. In this day and age the AVERAGE consumer doesn't want to shell out big money for a dvd and tons of advertisement or a $20 cd that, after one or two scrathes, is useless.
The heart of the problem is the rapidly changing technology. There are 100s of programs that will rip video from dvds. There are all kinds of burners that copy/replicate dvds. Some of those programs are even free, which sweetens the deal even more. So look at the movies this past weekend and tell me they're hurtin.
How many people pissed and moaned in the 80s because kids were recording music on cassettes from radio stations instead of buying new cassettes from those same artists? That's right, no one was.
Technology will always allow us to do what the suits don't want us to be able to do.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
23. November 2009 @ 16:24 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by kscogg:
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 22 November 2009 18:35
Originally posted by sssharp:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
People download movies as a good try before you buy. Many of these movies are not worth watching after 15-20 minutes. Can we get our cash back from the theater? Give us the option to purchase a ticket with the day pass option meaning if our main choice sucks, the next flick is an easy walk next door. That happened to me a few times giving me a good reason to stop going. Waiting a couple months is no problem for a good copy here. A good way to help make a little more money, release the dvd the day of the theater release. If we pay the theater dont count on a second purchase to get the dvd also.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup give us more options and perhaps we would not bother with alternatives, 10$ discs at the film launch, 15$ special edition discs with better editing a few months after. Day after streaming of films for 7$ a film without an account with a 5$ a month account you get the film as a rental for the month.
Hell give me a descent SD release of a film for 7$ a stream and I am in, but know they want their old and tired monopolies and nothing else, so to them I say screw off.
-----------
everyone should read that a couple of times. that, by far, is the best idea yet. In this day and age the AVERAGE consumer doesn't want to shell out big money for a dvd and tons of advertisement or a $20 cd that, after one or two scrathes, is useless.
The heart of the problem is the rapidly changing technology. There are 100s of programs that will rip video from dvds. There are all kinds of burners that copy/replicate dvds. Some of those programs are even free, which sweetens the deal even more. So look at the movies this past weekend and tell me they're hurtin.
How many people pissed and moaned in the 80s because kids were recording music on cassettes from radio stations instead of buying new cassettes from those same artists? That's right, no one was.
Technology will always allow us to do what the suits don't want us to be able to do.
The industry dose not want to change it wants its antiquated technologies and monopolies, just think of all the money the industry could have made if they opened up to the new tech and starting selling stuff to it DRM/piracy be damned, by offering cheap (2-8$) CD/DVD and offering easy to get download at a buck a a song,10$ an album and 5$ DVD they would have made billions instead they put their money into DRM and other organizations they own that do not make money. The industry needs to death to be better and who better to bring it than the consumer!
|
|
atomicxl
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
25. November 2009 @ 09:56 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The industry dose not want to change it wants its antiquated technologies and monopolies, just think of all the money the industry could have made if they opened up to the new tech and starting selling stuff to it DRM/piracy be damned, by offering cheap (2-8$) CD/DVD and offering easy to get download at a buck a a song,10$ an album and 5$ DVD they would have made billions instead they put their money into DRM and other organizations they own that do not make money. The industry needs to death to be better and who better to bring it than the consumer!
Except new CDs sell for $9.99 and most places sell MP3 downloads for $0.99. Most of what you want is already here. If DVDs were $5 I imagine you'd just pretend that they weren't, similar to your statements about MP3 prices and CD prices, or you'd say DVDs should only be $3.
I think your desire for a $2 album are a bit silly or don't show a desire for quality or to reward quality. A $2 album sounds like one that's crap. If somebody actually put time and effort into making a good CD selling it for $2 seems like a major slap in the face.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
25. November 2009 @ 10:08 |
Link to this message
|
Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The industry dose not want to change it wants its antiquated technologies and monopolies, just think of all the money the industry could have made if they opened up to the new tech and starting selling stuff to it DRM/piracy be damned, by offering cheap (2-8$) CD/DVD and offering easy to get download at a buck a a song,10$ an album and 5$ DVD they would have made billions instead they put their money into DRM and other organizations they own that do not make money. The industry needs to death to be better and who better to bring it than the consumer!
Except new CDs sell for $9.99 and most places sell MP3 downloads for $0.99. Most of what you want is already here. If DVDs were $5 I imagine you'd just pretend that they weren't, similar to your statements about MP3 prices and CD prices, or you'd say DVDs should only be $3.
I think your desire for a $2 album are a bit silly or don't show a desire for quality or to reward quality. A $2 album sounds like one that's crap. If somebody actually put time and effort into making a good CD selling it for $2 seems like a major slap in the face.
The only trouble is I hate 90% of new music its simply not worth supporting, and hell will frost over befor they do that with films.
Also I was suggesting that they had these cheap prices 10 years ago.... so like they would not be losing so much money like they are now.....
|
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
28. November 2009 @ 21:22 |
Link to this message
|
Is it not that Studios are getting greedy that we have more piracy.
Russia gets their DVDs before we do hear in the States,so I've heard.Also that they are produced by Studios on R5 Discs, to sell at a cheaper price.
Many R5 Releases are Available via the internet even before they are out of theatres in the States
The only Quality difference I can see in R5s Vs. a Standard DVD is that R5s have only Stereo,no 5.1. The Video is pretty much the same
Now I could be totally wrong, this is information I've read on the internet
But it is very Strange that there are so many R5s available, way ahead of other releases.
|
|
six60six
Junior Member
|
28. November 2009 @ 23:20 |
Link to this message
|
copyright was put in place so a person can try to make make money in a limited amount of time. it has been totally skewed in the past, say 50 years, if not more. the whole "extending it another 20 years, every 20 years" is *bleep* ludicrous. give me a sane system and i will abide, but certain criteria must be met.
first, i would like to see stuff go into the public domain that was made while i am still alive, shorten it to 20-30 years. after that, money can and will be made from it. any true fan, will buy romero's release of night of the living dead over some hollywood classics version.
secondly, i want to see mandatory licensing. if you want it protected, it must be offered for licensing. and i want the licenses to be global. the internet was supposed to fix this. go global or go home.
thirdly, nothing EVER goes out of print, especially in the digital age. no bullshit false scarcity. no going back to the vault. stick to supply and demand economics. if the supply is virtually endless, the value is near zero. live with it.
lastly, i want full fair use. my ability to exercise this far outweighs them blocking my access at every corner. that means if i buy the bluray, i can transcode it to play on everything i own.
additional point #1: sell it to me how i want it. sure blurays are nice for the hd, but how about all that space? sell me a season of sd tv shows on 1 disc or the entire star wars saga on 1 disc. or *bleep* the discs. sell them to me on ssd media.
additional point #2: i want all dvrs to be able to dump the data onto my computer. this should in no way ever be locked out. i can make my own dvds, tyvm. this was ok in the 80s with videotapes, so it is ok now. just because they took awhile to find 'an additional revenue stream' via tv shows on dvd, gives them no right to lock this out. if it is the case, they can get rid of the commercials, the filthy whores.
additional point #3: dlc. this has been discussed before and some think of it as an incentive to buy retail, but it is actually a scam if the goods are purchased. fine, they can give away dlc to people with retail bought goods, but the moment they sell it to you, first sale doctrine must apply. the same should apply to mp3s, steam games, and itunes purchases. it is up to the merchant to facilitate the mechanism to do so, but it must be done
additional point #4: i always wonder what they will do when full scale replication of nearly everything comes to fruition. i know it will turn everything we know on its head in regards to supply and demand and the supposed value we put on things. personally, i think this should be applied to every sector as it becomes available. that is why i said earlier that when something is in almost endless supply, the value is near zero. for some reason, people want to apply a different set of rules when they really shouldn't. okay, if only one person made movies (due to only one camera in the world) and shown once a year, on the one projector in the world, then the value of movies would be ginormously high. however, if movies could be copied instantly via magic into our minds and shown via mind-meld to anyone, the value would be pretty much nothing. or maybe other industries should start this sort of stuff. you sell the house and the builders, architects, electricians, etc get a royalty, hell maybe even a monthly one for just living there. you know they would do that if they could get away with it, but "no, those are tangible goods so its different". bullshit.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. November 2009 @ 07:33
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
29. November 2009 @ 10:39 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by six60six:
snip
I love you man =^^=
I think copy right should be treated more like a patent/trade mark IE you got a 5 year period where you can sell it any way you want and make direct profit off it after those 5 years if you can not keep it in the public eye and easily sale it it becomes public domain. But if one could repackage it and create a new thing to sale (say they take 1-3 movies and put them together on a disc, or revamp it ect) that becomes a new product that's protected, but anything old and forgotten by the majority of the public can not be protected.
Other wise copy right should be 10-25 years no more than that and then default to public domain, qaulity and fanship will determine what sales well after that.
Mandatory licensing is good and I want that licensing based on the percentage of the item price IE 50-90% of the items sale price goes to the CP owner. Make this global and everyone will be trying to sell stuff as cheap as they can to make a profit and since every one will be trying to make it cheap it will be easy to find.
Fair use should always trump whatever protection scheme they come up with and do so legally as bypassing hardware and software crap for more features is a legitimate practice.
I always considered media to be thought and as thought easily transferred via word and communication, its information and information on any level or scale should not be blocked or hampered when decimated to the masses IE you can sell it and secure anyway it makes money but that's it.
|
|
ianroyal
Suspended permanently
|
29. November 2009 @ 13:18 |
Link to this message
|
Quote:
Originally posted by six60six:
snip
I love you man =^^=
Thanks!
The moderators got a little zealous when an adult used adult language, so my account was banned. wtf! (hint that f is a swear word and masquerading it in wtf makes in no less safe/mature)
edit by moderator- account in question was only TEMP banned. Adult language it my be, but keep it off our forums.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. November 2009 @ 15:00
|
Junior Member
|
13. December 2009 @ 20:28 |
Link to this message
|
|
it use to be that you'd have a conversation at the water cooler (or on lunch break) about the new movie of the week. In about 10 mins time, that would determine 1) if you wanted to see it, should you now 2) is it a waste of money if it sucks, but you might have seen it
So what's the difference between dL'ing it & the conversation? I still say the MAFIAA should consider downloads the week OF release, legally, and with a $2.50 purchase price in iPod format. That would get more eyeballs in the theater, and cut down on online piracy of movies.
Two dollars and 50 freaking cents.
Guess Hollywood would rather the house be burned down rather than try to see the firemen have not put out the fire (piracy) yet.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. December 2009 @ 23:48 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by Ducky04:
it use to be that you'd have a conversation at the water cooler (or on lunch break) about the new movie of the week. In about 10 mins time, that would determine 1) if you wanted to see it, should you now 2) is it a waste of money if it sucks, but you might have seen it
So what's the difference between dL'ing it & the conversation? I still say the MAFIAA should consider downloads the week OF release, legally, and with a $2.50 purchase price in iPod format. That would get more eyeballs in the theater, and cut down on online piracy of movies.
Two dollars and 50 freaking cents.
Guess Hollywood would rather the house be burned down rather than try to see the firemen have not put out the fire (piracy) yet.
The problem is they don't want to change they wold rather waste all their time money and effort keeping their old broken monopoly going rather than changing and meeting the needs of the time.
|
|
