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22. November 2009 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im buying a PS3 ... which SKU should I buy ??

The fact is that Price difference between the Slim and the fat are not much ...

For The Design i would rather choose the slim but design does not really matter...

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23. November 2009 @ 06:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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23. November 2009 @ 06:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Get the fat...cheaper, more reliable, and linux support. While the slim has nothing but it's slightly smaller size...


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23. November 2009 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the slim has a 250gb hdd already in it, its got bravia sync, while ps3 fat has linux and a max 160gb if you can find one, and i know you could just upgrade the hdd, but ti may be cheaper adn easier just buying the slim with the 250 gb hdd, if you dont want to run linux of course.
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23. November 2009 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can Somebody list ALL the major differences ?

What is Bravia Sync ? Its useless if ive no Bravia tv
(Ive not yet bought a tv ... maybe ill choose a bravia itself)

Whats the use of using Linux on it ?
Should I Completely remove XMB to put linux ?
I may need the Memory Card reader ..
and HDD upgrade is quite cheap, isnt it ?



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23. November 2009 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brava Sync will offer you little.

If you have to ask about Linux then it will offer you no benifit. This is not a smart a@@ anserer. There are a few Linux Fans that can get some benifit from it.

Memory card readers are nice but I never use them. You can buy a USB too card adaptor for it Cheap.

HDD upgrade is easy and cheap. Will cost you $70 to $150 depending on what size HDD you want.

Phat benifits to me are the 4 USB slots on my 60gig and that is it.

Given the choice today, I would get a 250gig Slim. I would miss 2 of the USB slots but prefer to have the 250gig and better cooling system. I'm too lazy to put a 250gig in my own.

I have a Phat that has been good to me but I would suggest getting a Slim.
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23. November 2009 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay ... thnx
Till now Slim preferred

LAST CALL !!

Does any one have to add something on the advantage of Phat ??

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23. November 2009 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its Shiny!!!


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23. November 2009 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...and has cool spiderman style writing.


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23. November 2009 @ 12:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
People respect it so much that they call it Phat and not Fat.

It has the touch sensitive power and eject buttons that shock me in the Winter, just to remind me who is the boss.

NinReznor, how did the assassination go. Has a new Don taken over.

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23. November 2009 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah yes. It ylod after 5 mins. rang sony, go a replacment 60gb 3 days later. :P


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23. November 2009 @ 16:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heck ya. Assassians Creed 3, starring NinReznor.

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23. November 2009 @ 19:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys, im DEFINITELY getting a PS3 Friday this week. Which one is the best choice for my brother who will use it frequently, and probably store video files. I can worry about HDD upgrade later. Probably looking at the 120-160Gb version. 299 price range is quite appealing. Does it come with a OS preinstalled? Can ANY OS be installed on it. Sorry if some of these questions seem lazy. I am an avid googler, but any advice that some of these users can give is much appreciated. PS2 backwards compatibility would be wonderful too, but not necessary...

Back to the rat race :(



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23. November 2009 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I am an avid googler, but any advice that some of these users can give is much appreciated. PS2 backwards compatibility would be wonderful too, but not necessary...

Your not that avid :p

PS3 fat consoles have another OS, meaning that you can install Linux.
The 20,60 and early 80GB PS3 consoles had backwards compatiability.

Any console after the MGS4 bundle could not play PS2 games.
The slim consoles do not have another OS, meaning that you cannot install Linux :)
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23. November 2009 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey omega.

I'd recommend a fat if you can get hold of one. Thats just my personal preference really though.

If you are going to upgrade the HDD you may aswell get a unit with a smaller drive if you can get it cheaper, or go for the new slim 250gb if that would mean you didnt have to upgrade. You will be unlikely to find an old fat with PS2 backwards compatibility, so there shouldn't be much difference other than HDD size really.

AFAIK, the only mentionable difference is the lack of Linux compatability in the slim. I know the Slim supposedly has better cooling systems in it, but im yet to see any evidence of this.

The PS3 will come with the XMB OS installed, which will allow you to play games/videos/music etc, all the things you would expect.
You can then partition the drive and install a linux build on it (assuming you have the fat). It would then be kinda like a low level desktop PC. There are a few Linux dustro's available, ubuntu, fedora and yellow dog off the top of my head.

Hope that helps a bit.

Edit: Marcusita beat me to it...I need less TV watching and more posting i think.


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23. November 2009 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after having both models i can say that the slim is worth it. not only does it save space but it also doesnt have as much heat output as the bigger version. i hardly played ps2 games and when i did i could not stand them.

Originally posted by fun2000:
Your friend in nam is not lying. She has a modded PS2, and the modder was generous enough to relabel the PS2 to PS3.
Then the pirate selling games relabeled Assassins Creed 1 and called it Assassins Creed 2. This is called marketing.
Your friend is honest and thinks she plays AC2 on a PS3. In reality she is playing AC1 on a PS2.
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24. November 2009 @ 01:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've heard the more modern PS3's employ a smaller nm processor. That would definitely help with keeping cool due to less voltage useage.

So go for the smallest drive, slim line ps3. Sounds good to me. Im not worried that I can figure out how to upgrade the HDD later :)

Yes, Im an avid googler. I simply wanted to throw the question out there before I had to go to work :P Besides, the more input I can get the better...



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24. November 2009 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ps3 Slim ... I choose you :D

Now .. a few little questions here :
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-153/ps3_psp_questions-816815/

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24. November 2009 @ 02:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 250GB seems like a silly reason to get a slim...250GB is tiny. Either you won't use anywhere near 160GB, or you will need a lot more than 250GB. If they were selling it with a 500 or larger, I would change my tune...but they are not. If you are not going to use the space, then the fat saves you money. If you do need space, then the upgrade will be the same price, and the fat will still save you money.

The 160GB fat is the final, as-close-to-perfect-as-it-will-get version, while the slim is the first, were-still-working-out-the-bugs version. If just for that, I would go with the fat.

I have little use for linux on PC, but I do use it on my PS3 from time to time. It isn't very useful at the moment (not enough ram to do much of anything, and no 3D support yet), but the "Other OS" feature leaves the door open to a lot more than linux should someone choose to write another OS.


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24. November 2009 @ 02:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
The 250GB seems like a silly reason to get a slim...250GB is tiny. Either you won't use anywhere near 160GB, or you will need a lot more than 250GB. If they were selling it with a 500 or larger, I would change my tune...but they are not. If you are not going to use the space, then the fat saves you money. If you do need space, then the upgrade will be the same price, and the fat will still save you money.

The 160GB fat is the final, as-close-to-perfect-as-it-will-get version, while the slim is the first, were-still-working-out-the-bugs version. If just for that, I would go with the fat.

I have little use for linux on PC, but I do use it on my PS3 from time to time. It isn't very useful at the moment (not enough ram to do much of anything, and no 3D support yet), but the "Other OS" feature leaves the door open to a lot more than linux should someone choose to write another OS.
I did not really get your point here

Btw .. with linux thing ... whats the advantage and what can you do extra ??

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24. November 2009 @ 03:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The PS3 is for my brother. He has now informed me that gaming will be 90% what it is used for. However, he will store some vid files, and what not on it. The 120Gb sounds like a good choice at this point. The fact that it won't be ps2 backward compatible doesn't seem to bother him. However his PS2 displaying like absolute garbage on his new LCD tv does bother him LOL! He says if he has the PS3, he wouldn't play his PS2 much anymore.

Linux is Freeware. Thats the benefit. However, i'm pretty partial to windows 7 right now. It's the best thing i've seen microsoft put out in a while. I will however give Linux a chance one day. I believe it will teach me much. And I want to program one day, so I believe linux to be the best place to begin :) On a PS3 though...I'm not sure the benefit other than it being freeware...



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24. November 2009 @ 05:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The main advantage to linux capability is rather limited. You can rip blurays with it if you don't have a bluray drive in your PC...and if you don't have a PC, then it makes for much better internet'ing than the PS3 OS. Some have used linux and a TV tuner to make their PS3 into a DVR unit, much like the add-on units available in europe. There is also the possibility that someone might already be working on a "Other OS" that provides other functionalities, such as software PS2 emulation, XboX emulation, or who knows what else. I know that none of these are good reasons to pay more for a fat, but the fat costs less.

As for the space thing, most PS3 users are only using a tiny bit of their drives. Ignoring music, video, and linux, I have less than 50GB used...and I have about a dozen games. However, once you start loading your MP3 and video collection onto the drive, you find that even a 500GB is far too small.

The first issue of something is usual filled with bugs and issues...the 20GB and 60GB PS3 units are a fine example, while many of them are still running, their failure rate is nearly as high as the current xbox360. From what I have heard, the new slimline PS3 is nearly as buggy as the old 20/60GB, but without the features. I know that all the slims suffer from at least one issue...the hard drive is mounted under the bluray drive, so when copying files from a disk to the drive, the disk gets so hot that it is hard to handle when ejected...hotter even than leaving the disk in direct sunlight, something that most every BluRay says not to do right on the packaging.

Personaly, the only applications where I would go with a slim over a phat are applications where space & weight are big concerns, such as when mounting in a vehicle...and even then I would prefer a phat if there was enough space.


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24. November 2009 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Speaking of other OSes, Killer, do you know of any developments on a Cell-based video encoder? I know there was a payware "OS" that utilized the PS3's OtherOS feature to do some seriously fast encoding - an almost 1:1 time ratio, if not less - but I also recall it being rather limited in its tweakability (no two-pass encoding, to be specific).
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24. November 2009 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
I know that all the slims suffer from at least one issue...the hard drive is mounted under the bluray drive, so when copying files from a disk to the drive, the disk gets so hot that it is hard to handle when ejected...hotter even than leaving the disk in direct sunlight, something that most every BluRay says not to do right on the packaging.


All the slims? Thats unfortunate. That can't be good for the data integrity...



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25. November 2009 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im still undecided -_-

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