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mandyy
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24. November 2009 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi, could anyone tell me if it's all the same or do u get different types...
the thing is i repaired both my sons xbox 360's over a year ago at exactly the same time... i bought the paste from ebay and they worked great until recently they have both got the red lights again..

so i ordered some more compound but this time i have repaired the same box a few times and each time it is lasting only minutes before i get the rrod again..

do some thermal paste work better than others?? and are some rubbish?? anyone tell me if there is a good one out there and what if anything i should be looking for... i don't remember the buyer that i bought the stuff off last year.

thanks
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24. November 2009 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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24. November 2009 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can probally tell you its not the paste effecting the console. It probally needs a reflow or reball at worse. I use artic silver TC5 when I do reflows , I have just starting using diamond compound thermal paste and its not worth the price. Stick to TC5.
mandyy
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24. November 2009 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for quick replies :) i don't have a clue what a reflow or reball is??? how would i know if that is what is going on?? thanks
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24. November 2009 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree. It is not an issue of thermal compound and it sounds like the motherboards need a reflow.

A reflow is basically what you are simulating when you have fixed the 360s previously, I imagine. You heat the system up really hot, solder melts and remakes connections, and the device begins to function correctly again. However, with a proper reflow, the process is much more refined and gets much better results. A machine that delivers very exactly measured IR heat is used to directly heat the motherboard, producing results that simply overheating the system can't match.

I believe going rates are $30 or $40 for this service from 360 repair guys. There are even a few people around here that have reflow machines.

Also, your case may be faulty if your system is old enough. Old console revisions at around launch time had certain screw spacers too high, creating a warping effect on the motherboard and causing them problem to happen over and over. There are fixes for it. I would look into this if I were you.

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mandyy
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24. November 2009 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thanks for all replies... maaybe it is the reflow thing :) i will try to fix the second xbox (bad luck both going rrod same time)tomorrow... if the same thing keeps happening i will first try a better compound and if that doesn't work i will give up and buy another box.. guess every box has it's day sooner or later lol

i will let u know if the second box works after the fix :)

thanks
mandy
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24. November 2009 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What exactly are you doing to fix these 360s?

By the way, before you completely write these 360s off, you can attempt your own in-home version of a proper reflow. If you take proper precautions, you can use a heat gun to get similar results. I've even heard of people putting foil around the motherboard and putting it into an appropriately-heated oven for a length of time. If the 360s are destined for the trash bin, you may as well try some extreme measures.

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mandyy
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24. November 2009 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
both 360 got rrod same time last year.. i repaired both myself by putting some new compound on (using a guide i found on the net)... they had both been previously repaired for the rrod... i've been happy that they worked for over a year after my own fix.. but now bad luck same thing has happened to both lol.... all i did was exactly same as last year, bought some more compound off ebay and redone the fix (on 1 box).. but bad luck it's not lasting this time not more than a few mins.. hoping the next box will work longer tomorrow after the fix

mandy
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gameover9
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24. November 2009 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do not use a heatgun. I own a reflow/rework station and have reflowed some of the guys boards on this site. PM me if you are interested.
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