Originally posted by HUNCHBAK:

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@ I love it how america calls itself "land of the free". Yeah right.

This incident proves its turning into a poilce state like nazi germany where people were arrested and sent for years into jail for doing nothing. No crime was committed by her.

Glad I dont live in that socially backward hole of a country.

The managers should of just told her to put the phone away, or leave the cinema.

I hope those police(cowards with guns on a power trip) which arrested her, get shot in the line of duty they deserve it for participating in such an unjust act. What a waste of police resources.

Those managers deserve something like that too.


1st of all you are obviously a young kid and uneducated at that.. Remind me whose country has passed or is passing laws to ban people from the internet permanently? Govt's have tried to limit information since the beginning of time starting in egypt where only royalty was allowed to learn to read and write...europe in the middle ages banned the print and press,etc etc etc. They hated it when they could no longer control it and they are happy they have finally found a way to put the public on there side to control it a little again. And the public eats it up and asks for seconds!! Down with the pirates you all cry,they are the very reason society is going downhill,they are all evil. They have even convinced people that the reasons prices are so high is because of pirates!HAH!! When was the last time you saw a movie exec or a movie star using coupons at the grocery store,I am supposed to be mad ?? With the world economy the way it is I say good for them. If they are surviving in this world without hurting people,stealing from people,selling drugs to people,robbing..well good for them!!
Yeah I agree this situation sux ,I hate the MPAA , and I will even go a step further and say I have no issue with people who do pirate movies. Like it or not they are demonized to make it easier to punish them. They are not thiefs in the sense they they are made out, they don't break into your house and rob you,they don't burglarize stores for movies and resell them. They capture photons,which are gone forever to begin with and then make copies. They also pump a lot of money into the economy by buying tons of blank dvd's,ink cart. for their printers,plastic cases for the movies etc etc... You save 15.00 because you only pay 5.00 and then you go spend it somewhere else . But yeah you're right it's america that is taking all the freedom away from the citizens. By the way, tell me, can you still by firearms in your country little boy?

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Originally posted by KSib:

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she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.

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Recreational use? lol, is she going to roll it up and smoke it?

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Originally posted by KSib:

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she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.

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Recreational use? lol, is she going to roll it up and smoke it?

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How you use copyrighted material matters. You can use it for a variety of uses and depending on the use, you may not have to have permission from the creator (like educational).

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Originally posted by bomber991:

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Obviously once this case goes before a judge, she'll be found not guilty if what she said is true. They'll play the tape and it will show her filming the little kids with the screen in the background. Then the judge will say "Bring me the idiot that decided it was a good idea to ruin this little girls birthday party".

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It won't get dropped it;ll be a case of getting fined or something as buying a ticket mean you agree to all the rules and they don't allow cams in so she will have broken the agreement for a start.

overall though I find it a bit odd that they are trying to video people in a dark room for a birthday party, maybe on a mobile phone which are utter crap in dark rooms for recording people.

recording over 15 or 30 seconds of anything copyright can mean you need to pay money but below is fine.

she'll get done just what the end result is who knows.

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Originally posted by siber:

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If you are arrested for doing something you didn?t realize was against the law the judge will often tell you that ?ignorance of the law is no excuse?.

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Originally posted by siber:

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"simple logic dictates those actions to be wrong (unless the battering was in self defence)".

I would personally vote for you to become the most influential British Judge of the 21st Century. I couldn't agree more with the common sense of your argument.

Unfortunately, we are dealing with a different historical reality. The principle of "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" is old and established since Roman Times.
WIKIPEDIA:Ignorantia juris non excusat(Latin for "ignorance of the law does not excuse" or "ignorance of the law excuses no one") is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because he or she was unaware of its content.

The judge who - very appropriately, in my humble opinion - decides that this woman did nothing wrong and had no intent to do harm, could be dealing with appeal after appeal from the RIAA, the loss of his reputation, and whatever the 'Powers In Charge' want to do to him/her. He/she is most likely to condemn. What a mess.

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Originally posted by siber:

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I don't disagree, ZippyDSM. I don't mean to tell you that the principles of "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" or "anti Wicca/whichisim (New to me!) laws that forbid more than 4 females being in a single residence" are correct and represent fine examples of Western Civilization. I just expect that they will be used to determine the outcome for this poor woman, if we like it or not...

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Originally posted by KillerBug:

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It will not be long before they outlaw breathing air...then they can arrest anyone they want whenever they want without cause, to put into forced labor. They already have the forced labor...and they keep making crimes out of innocent activities for no reason other than this.

The USA is called "The land of the free" - but even Autistic 5 year olds know better. We also call our government a democracy, even though it started as a repbulic and has turned into a dictatorship...and has never been a democracy. We even say "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance...when we all know that this nation serves a much darker master...man.

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