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'Twilight' cam piracy case tossed out
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article published on 12 December, 2009
Last week we reported that a 22-year old woman was arrested in Chicago for recording three minutes of the newest "Twilight" film with a digital camera at the movie theater, and was forced to spend two days in jail awaiting a hearing.
Samantha Tumpach faced up to three years in jail after being charged for criminal use of a motion picture exhibition.
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ddp
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17. December 2009 @ 23:40 |
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settle down you 2 or you both might be traumatized by a temp ban or worse. as we are not in her shoes then figure on her being traumatized by the experience. her parents are the ones most likely were going ballistic over this so we'll most likely see a lawsuit or 2 come out of this mess.
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celina
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18. December 2009 @ 01:37 |
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it is unbelievable,so serious.
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. December 2009 @ 12:41
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Serialluv
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18. December 2009 @ 05:10 |
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Ok, so 'worst case' was an exaggeration. You're still giving a hypothetical and we don't know what actually did happen to her in particular. The ramifications you are presenting are things the average person probably has no idea about and as such wouldn't be present to cause the 'trauma.' All I'm saying is that this woman is probably without the perspective of the severity of what could happen and probably only knows that she got thrown in jail for 2 days for some bogus crap. Regardless, I see this is going absolutely nowhere except a very hostile place so I'm done here. I would normally listen to the other side of the argument but I cut out when personally attacked. It's almost never productive at that point...
No-one was personally attacking you as an individual they were merely pointing out the invalidity of your argument and the very stupidity of what you said, by providing evidence of how this can and HAS caused trauma to people. You say this wouldn't happen to average people, well I would call the people cited average.
You state she probably doesn't know what could have happened to her, do you think she doesn't read the news or see cases like this that are blown up, like the rest of us? That we don't know because it's not happening to us? Don't sit there say it's not traumatic spout crap, attack people's arguments and then cry like a baby when you're proven wrong.
This is a forum for people to give their opinions, you agve yours, people responded with theirs and then you run off crying, "I'm not playing anymore they used words" :( Get over yourself, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
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Daniel_1
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18. December 2009 @ 11:26 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
settle down you 2 or you both might be traumatized by a temp ban or worse. as we are not in her shoes then figure on her being traumatized by the experience. her parents are the ones most likely were going ballistic over this so we'll most likely see a lawsuit or 2 come out of this mess.
I am not acting up or causing trouble, it is the people that are what we in the military used to call "shyte house lawyers" that seemingly think hey know everything and just by their own words they show their complete and utter ignorance and are too ignorant to know they are ignorant.
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Daniel_1
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18. December 2009 @ 11:34 |
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Ok, so 'worst case' was an exaggeration. You're still giving a hypothetical and we don't know what actually did happen to her in particular. The ramifications you are presenting are things the average person probably has no idea about and as such wouldn't be present to cause the 'trauma.' All I'm saying is that this woman is probably without the perspective of the severity of what could happen and probably only knows that she got thrown in jail for 2 days for some bogus crap. Regardless, I see this is going absolutely nowhere except a very hostile place so I'm done here. I would normally listen to the other side of the argument but I cut out when personally attacked. It's almost never productive at that point...
No, I am giving facts and the only thing I see is your pitiful attempts to candy coat this with hypothetical statements. It makes no difference if they charged her or not as when she was arrested it goes on a police log that is public knowledge and printed in the papers in her area, therefor her reputation has already BEEN damaged and it can only go downhill from there. Unless the Judge ordered the police to remove ALL mention of this from their records and hard drives, it will still be available for anyone that does a background check on her. That includes jobs-credit-housing-car loans-etc. And there are numerous search engines out there that get this information and for a price you can read everything this woman has from a simple parking ticket to how many credit cards she has, and this would be included.
So yet again you show your ignorance on the actual damage that can be done by this act and for that I wish it to happen to you just once and then maybe you would have a better understanding of what damage something like this can actually cause.
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18. December 2009 @ 15:45 |
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A. "Are you two stupid" and "morons" are personal attacks.
B. My admittedly poorly given point was that I don't think it would be traumatizing until the effects start to set in. The lawyer's statement just seemed to me more of a preemptive statement for the record.
C. I'm not 'running away crying.' I see that this has drawn out way to far and should have been dropped awhile ago. I realize my point needs to be reconsidered, but this has passed civility so I'm done.
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Daniel_1
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18. December 2009 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by WierdName:
A. "Are you two stupid" and "morons" are personal attacks.
B. My admittedly poorly given point was that I don't think it would be traumatizing until the effects start to set in. The lawyer's statement just seemed to me more of a preemptive statement for the record.
C. I'm not 'running away crying.' I see that this has drawn out way to far and should have been dropped awhile ago. I realize my point needs to be reconsidered, but this has passed civility so I'm done.
and by still giving the impression/implying that no harm has come to this woman when you were shown different and even had federal code sited to you showing different, yet you continued implying different; is not some form of non civility? Now when the tables are turned on you you complain? My what a rosey world you must live in and how sad when fact and reality intrude.
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ddp
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18. December 2009 @ 17:06 |
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do you guys hear the approaching thunder?
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Serialluv
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19. December 2009 @ 07:13 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
do you guys hear the approaching thunder?
No but it's been snowing here this morning, don't tell me it's going to rain, the white snow looks so pretty I don't want black slush :(
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19. December 2009 @ 08:39 |
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Unless the Judge ordered the police to remove ALL mention of this from their records and hard drives, it will still be available for anyone that does a background check on her. That includes jobs-credit-housing-car loans-etc. And there are numerous search engines out there that get this information and for a price you can read everything this woman has from a simple parking ticket to how many credit cards she has, and this would be included.
From what ive been told if you get a case against you or several cases against you dismissed in a court of law you can still get a police clearance.i was charged twice as a juvenile and once as an adult plus 2 fines and i can still get a police clearance.she probably has been traumatised by this 2 days in jail would be hell and having people knowing her name and discussing her on forums worldwide might be disturbing to her. Not to mention it would ruin her reputation.
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Daniel_1
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19. December 2009 @ 09:12 |
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Unless the Judge ordered the police to remove ALL mention of this from their records and hard drives, it will still be available for anyone that does a background check on her. That includes jobs-credit-housing-car loans-etc. And there are numerous search engines out there that get this information and for a price you can read everything this woman has from a simple parking ticket to how many credit cards she has, and this would be included.
From what ive been told if you get a case against you or several cases against you dismissed in a court of law you can still get a police clearance.i was charged twice as a juvenile and once as an adult plus 2 fines and i can still get a police clearance.she probably has been traumatised by this 2 days in jail would be hell and having people knowing her name and discussing her on forums worldwide might be disturbing to her. Not to mention it would ruin her reputation.
My point exactly. The Judge should have demanded that all information of this be dismissed and deleted from the records/hard drives and that if any record of this were to be kept, it would include an order of dismissal including a repremand against both the police and the prosecutor for bringing this up as well as a copy of a public apology from the theater owners/managers and the MPAA. That way if anyone still does find this, they will know she was innocent and it wont effect her future.
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Serialluv
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19. December 2009 @ 09:43 |
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My point exactly. The Judge should have demanded that all information of this be dismissed and deleted from the records/hard drives and that if any record of this were to be kept, it would include an order of dismissal including a repremand against both the police and the prosecutor for bringing this up as well as a copy of a public apology from the theater owners/managers and the MPAA. That way if anyone still does find this, they will know she was innocent and it wont effect her future.
It still leaves the mental effect on her, the trauma is not automatically attached to the potential for future trauma with potential employers/loans etc etc. There is still the fact that she was wrongly accused, forced to spend 2 days in jail, has had her name spread all over the internet, she should rightly sue for that at the very least.
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Daniel_1
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19. December 2009 @ 11:08 |
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My point exactly. The Judge should have demanded that all information of this be dismissed and deleted from the records/hard drives and that if any record of this were to be kept, it would include an order of dismissal including a repremand against both the police and the prosecutor for bringing this up as well as a copy of a public apology from the theater owners/managers and the MPAA. That way if anyone still does find this, they will know she was innocent and it wont effect her future.
It still leaves the mental effect on her, the trauma is not automatically attached to the potential for future trauma with potential employers/loans etc etc. There is still the fact that she was wrongly accused, forced to spend 2 days in jail, has had her name spread all over the internet, she should rightly sue for that at the very least.
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