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BACKUP ASSASSIN'S CREED II
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RXV2300
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12. December 2009 @ 19:33 |
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Trying to make back-up of this game, I have even patched it uasing ABGX360 V1.0.2 / my 360 drive firmware is IXTREME 1.51, I have no problem playing other back-up but when I try to play this game all I get is a big xbox360 logo on the screen & nothing more,. Am I suppose to change firmware of the 360 drive or can it remain on IXTREME 1.51
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12. December 2009 @ 19:54 |
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iXtreme 1.51 should play it. Maybe it's the media (brand of discs) you're using?
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johnny412
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12. December 2009 @ 19:57 |
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Originally posted by RXV2300:
Trying to make back-up of this game, I have even patched it uasing ABGX360 V1.0.2 / my 360 drive firmware is IXTREME 1.51, I have no problem playing other back-up but when I try to play this game all I get is a big xbox360 logo on the screen & nothing more,. Am I suppose to change firmware of the 360 drive or can it remain on IXTREME 1.51
I had problems with AC2 also. Had to patch it back to wave 3 AND use the activate.iso disk! Thought patching to wave 3 would let me do it without the .iso disk but thats the only way it worked (using verbatims)...
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RXV2300
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12. December 2009 @ 20:11 |
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I have been using verbatim DL for the longest time, & this is what I am using now, I already wasted 3 DL for this & same scenario on all of them. Could it be that I have a bad ISO of this game (meaning when I try to read it using XBC something went wrong)
Johnny412, can u tell me exactly what u did, I don't quite follow what u are saying.
Thank you,
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johnny412
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12. December 2009 @ 20:23 |
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Originally posted by RXV2300:
I have been using verbatim DL for the longest time, & this is what I am using now, I already wasted 3 DL for this & same scenario on all of them. Could it be that I have a bad ISO of this game (meaning when I try to read it using XBC something went wrong)
Johnny412, can u tell me exactly what u did, I don't quite follow what u are saying.
Thank you,
I thought my burn was bad too. Either the AC2 or the activate.iso disk or both. Do a search for the wave patcher software and patch AC2 to wave 3. Burn it and try it that way. Im still not sure why i had to use the activate disk after patching to wave 3 but if that doesnt work i guess you could try the activate disk and the patched wave 3 AC2 disk...
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metalguy
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12. December 2009 @ 21:05 |
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If you have ixtreme 1.51 on any drive other that a hitachi then the game wont work. It will just say play dvd then when you play it you will get the screen that you mentioned. You should make sure your drive is a hitachi if not then you need to upgrade your firmware to make the game work. either 1.6 or 1.61. if you have a samsung or benq go with 1.61 so you won't need the boot disc. Also, the boot disc was made to work with the 1.6 firmware, i don't think its supposed to work with 1.51.
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peezwizz
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15. December 2009 @ 03:41 |
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Assassins Creed 2 was my first ever backup attempt... I recently bought a modded box off a friend of mine and convinced myself I could make my own backups...
At first I was attempting to burn the .iso on a mac (iburn360). After a failed attempt and a wasted DL, I did a little more research on the matter. I thought perhaps I needed to convert it to a wave 3. I know I have a hatachi drive, but I am unsure of what firmware I have at the moment...
I went over to my PC and converted the .iso to a wave 3 (360 waves patcher). Then I ran ABGX360 and everything passed but "stealth" was unsure. I then used Imgburn to try burning again. I was using Memorex DVD+r dls. I know these are very poor but I did not do enough research beforehand and these were all I had. Regardless, I burned at 2.4X which resulted in an i/o failure during the check. I tried again at 4X and it crashed very early. I then tried again at 2X and it crashed late during the check.
I put it in the Xbox anyways but this disc actually loaded! The game started running, though the only problem is the audio of dialogue seemed to go out... and I'm sure 1/2 way into the game it will crash because it never finished the Imgburn check... I'm assuming this is probably because of the bad media I used?
But am I on the right path? Should I try burning again using some Verbatims? would that probably solve my problem? My dual layer burner is an external Sony DRX840U 20x
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metalguy
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15. December 2009 @ 03:54 |
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yeah sounds like you got a bad batch of mems as they sometimes have layerbreak issues which would cause them to stop verifying half-way through. try using the verbs. Also depending on the performance of your comp you might want to check and see if your running a lot of background processes that are taking up system resources while burning. If so stop them until you finish burning the game.
Also as a test you should try burning a wave 4 game using the method you did with img burn but don't patch the iso to wave 3, its the easiest way to see if you have 1.51 on your hitachi. if the game plays then you have 1.51 and you won't need to patch anymore. if not then you will know you have an earlier firmware.
the way I do it is run iso through abgx, burn with img burn at 4x speed while choosing the .dvd file. run through abgx again to verify. if everything check out then the game should work.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. December 2009 @ 04:10
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RXV2300
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15. December 2009 @ 18:19 |
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Does this method using 360 wave patcher work if 360 drive isn't Hitachi or it needs to be Hitachi for wave patcher to work?
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metalguy
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15. December 2009 @ 19:36 |
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Originally posted by RXV2300:
Does this method using 360 wave patcher work if 360 drive isn't Hitachi or it needs to be Hitachi for wave patcher to work?
It works with any drive, but only with firmwares that allow playing of wave 3 backups.
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RXV2300
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15. December 2009 @ 21:56 |
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Originally posted by metalguy:
If you have ixtreme 1.51 on any drive other that a hitachi then the game wont work. It will just say play dvd then when you play it you will get the screen that you mentioned. You should make sure your drive is a hitachi if not then you need to upgrade your firmware to make the game work. either 1.6 or 1.61. if you have a samsung or benq go with 1.61 so you won't need the boot disc. Also, the boot disc was made to work with the 1.6 firmware, i don't think its supposed to work with 1.51.
Metalguy, sorry to say but you were wrong with your info/comments
I just used xbox360 wave3patcher & back-up works perfectly & my firmware is 1.51 no need to update to 1.6 or 1.61 & no need for boot disk either.
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15. December 2009 @ 22:25 |
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Originally posted by RXV2300:
Originally posted by metalguy:
If you have ixtreme 1.51 on any drive other that a hitachi then the game wont work. It will just say play dvd then when you play it you will get the screen that you mentioned. You should make sure your drive is a hitachi if not then you need to upgrade your firmware to make the game work. either 1.6 or 1.61. if you have a samsung or benq go with 1.61 so you won't need the boot disc. Also, the boot disc was made to work with the 1.6 firmware, i don't think its supposed to work with 1.51.
Metalguy, sorry to say but you were wrong with your info/comments
I just used xbox360 wave3patcher & back-up works perfectly & my firmware is 1.51 no need to update to 1.6 or 1.61 & no need for boot disk either.
No, he's not wrong. What he said is true.
Wavepatcher is not a legit fix. It's only meant to be used if that game will never be played on LIVE. You're not playing that game while having your network cable plugged in, right?
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RXV2300
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15. December 2009 @ 22:34 |
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Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by RXV2300:
Originally posted by metalguy:
If you have ixtreme 1.51 on any drive other that a hitachi then the game wont work. It will just say play dvd then when you play it you will get the screen that you mentioned. You should make sure your drive is a hitachi if not then you need to upgrade your firmware to make the game work. either 1.6 or 1.61. if you have a samsung or benq go with 1.61 so you won't need the boot disc. Also, the boot disc was made to work with the 1.6 firmware, i don't think its supposed to work with 1.51.
Metalguy, sorry to say but you were wrong with your info/comments
I just used xbox360 wave3patcher & back-up works perfectly & my firmware is 1.51 no need to update to 1.6 or 1.61 & no need for boot disk either.
No, he's not wrong. What he said is true.
Wavepatcher is not a legit fix. It's only meant to be used if that game will never be played on LIVE. You're not playing that game while having your network cable plugged in, right?
I never / ever play any of my back-up games live not even original copies, having said this I don't need to use abgx do I?
Maybe I was wrong or misunderstood, but based on what I red I was under the impression that I needed to change firmware in order to play wave 4 games (live or not, didn't think that wavepatcher will do the trick, becuase without I wasted 3 DL, now I used wavepatcher to convert wave 4 to 3 & trhere u go, perfect back-up copy of original...thank you so need to upgrade firmware, correct?
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15. December 2009 @ 22:56 |
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Originally posted by RXV2300:
now I used wavepatcher to convert wave 4 to 3 & trhere u go, perfect back-up copy of original...thank you so need to upgrade firmware, correct?
A backup made using wavepatcher is not a perfect copy of the original. Wavepatcher takes info from an entirely different game and patches it in to the current game you're working on. Thus allowing new games to work on older firmware.
Wavepatcher is fine to use as long as that disc will never be used on a LIVE console. Patching a game and playing it on LIVE is detectable by MS.
Glancing back through the thread, I didn't see anywhere it being mentioned that you'd never be on LIVE with that console. That's why people were saying to use the latest firmware. If you want to be safe on LIVE, that is.
But if you're on on LIVE, then wavepatcher will work fine for you.
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metalguy
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16. December 2009 @ 08:20 |
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Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by RXV2300:
now I used wavepatcher to convert wave 4 to 3 & trhere u go, perfect back-up copy of original...thank you so need to upgrade firmware, correct?
A backup made using wavepatcher is not a perfect copy of the original. Wavepatcher takes info from an entirely different game and patches it in to the current game you're working on. Thus allowing new games to work on older firmware.
Wavepatcher is fine to use as long as that disc will never be used on a LIVE console. Patching a game and playing it on LIVE is detectable by MS.
Glancing back through the thread, I didn't see anywhere it being mentioned that you'd never be on LIVE with that console. That's why people were saying to use the latest firmware. If you want to be safe on LIVE, that is.
But if you're on on LIVE, then wavepatcher will work fine for you.
Hey thanks for clarifying for me bhetrick. And sorry to the op for the confusion, I always assume unless otherwise told that people want to be able to use their backups on live when they play. Thats why I didn't mention patching waves down.
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RXV2300
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16. December 2009 @ 08:40 |
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Originally posted by metalguy:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by RXV2300:
now I used wavepatcher to convert wave 4 to 3 & trhere u go, perfect back-up copy of original...thank you so need to upgrade firmware, correct?
A backup made using wavepatcher is not a perfect copy of the original. Wavepatcher takes info from an entirely different game and patches it in to the current game you're working on. Thus allowing new games to work on older firmware.
Wavepatcher is fine to use as long as that disc will never be used on a LIVE console. Patching a game and playing it on LIVE is detectable by MS.
Glancing back through the thread, I didn't see anywhere it being mentioned that you'd never be on LIVE with that console. That's why people were saying to use the latest firmware. If you want to be safe on LIVE, that is.
But if you're on on LIVE, then wavepatcher will work fine for you.
Hey thanks for clarifying for me bhetrick. And sorry to the op for the confusion, I always assume unless otherwise told that people want to be able to use their backups on live when they play. Thats why I didn't mention patching waves down.
No hard feelings all good......just another question, Bhetrick mentioned "A backup made using wavepatcher is not a perfect copy of the original what he means by this, are part of the games or the or cut-scenes left out? Since now I can use wavepatcher to play wave 4 games (NOT LIVE) is it necessary to upgrade my firmware to 1.6 or 1.61 or can I just leave it as is, always keep in mind that I don't play live, back-up copies or originals.
Thank you again,
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16. December 2009 @ 09:31 |
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It's not the actual game data itself which is cut or patched, it's other data pertaining to dashboard updates and LIVE options.
So yes, you're fine just using wavepatcher and leaving your firmware alone as long as you'll not be on LIVE.
But I should mention that you may run in to problems with some games not working. When wavepatcher patches old updates over top of the actual updates which are suppose to be on the disc, it's not only the LIVE/dash updates, there may also be some necessary updates which pertain to the game itself. There's a few threads here in the forum where this has happened to people. They used wavepatcher, the game asked to update before it could be played, and nothing worked for them.
If you run in to that all you have to do is boot the original game and apply the update. Then you can use your backup afterwards.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. December 2009 @ 09:38
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Yaz360
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9. January 2010 @ 12:01 |
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thatz funny coz i gt 1.51 liteon drive and wen i put in wave 3 assassins creed 2 it reads it and in the achievements section shows assassins creed 2 but when i 2 play it it sez ureadable disc sed on 3 DL DISKS NOW!!!!!
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