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PSN premium subscriptions detailed, online gaming still free for all

article published on 19 December, 2009

Putting to rest any worries that PlayStation 3 owners may have had that their online gaming would soon turn to a pay-for service such as Xbox Live Gold, a leaked survey showing off the company's considerations for premium subscriptions shows that online gaming will remain free for everyone using the PSN. The survey, posted on CVG, shows that for $70-a-year, a premium PSN subscription ... [ read the full article ]

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Morreale
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19. December 2009 @ 14:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think Option 2 is the best, I like the idea of free access to PS1 games, PSP minis and premium themes. Store discounts is also attractive, but the depends on the discount. I'd rather a regular music service over music videos and I think member-exclusive in-game content is a terrible idea. I would like Loyalty Rewards and Catch-Up TV sounds interesting if its free?

Customer service priority access I think is also a bad idea and an extended 3-year warranty is nice but I don't think it's necessary. I don't like automatic access to game betas because that's just less exciting then how it's done right now :P

Some things that need more details are token wagering, user-to-user challenges, trophy alerts and exclusive experiences with Sony brands.

OK, so I think that's my opinion. I wouldn't mind paying for a service like that. I would rather it be $59.99 CAD though since the 13% tax turns that into around $68.

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19. December 2009 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If they Added PS2 emulation it would be an instant Success
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19. December 2009 @ 16:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know, this was coming for a while, for premium subscription for Sony Network, and it was going to be a matter of time. This answer was to answer back to XBox Live, showing that Sony can be just as competitive as Microsoft can be in terms of online features. I'm just glad that they have given those people who just connect to the PSN free access. Basically, it's a PR move, to get more customers to the Playstation bandwagon. Will they be as successful as Live? That is the question, and that remains to be seen in the coming months ahead. - BLUEBOY
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19. December 2009 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not sure what their thinking, why doesn't the $70 sub include everything? and then trickle the features down with price, down to the $30 sub... either way it seems like it would be pretty cool if they work out some of these bugs.
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19. December 2009 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
like the original ps3 too many different versions

also when it comes to the UK the price will be 69.99 POUNDS! (ripped off again)
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19. December 2009 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
f*** that I'm not paying for s***, f*** you sony for all the bulls*** options they're starting to sound like MS with all the bulls*** options with the console, hard drive, xboxlive,etc keep the s*** the way it had been. I buy the s*** I want and everything else should be free just like it's been.

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19. December 2009 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wtf? everything you have will still be free, there just saying if you want these extra things your going to have to pay
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Originally posted by Noamos:
f*** that I'm not paying for s***, f*** you sony for all the bulls*** options they're starting to sound like MS with all the bulls*** options with the console, hard drive, xboxlive,etc keep the s*** the way it had been. I buy the s*** I want and everything else should be free just like it's been.
Premium subscriptions are optional.
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19. December 2009 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Like 2 users have stated previously, are all of these versions really necessary? How about one that has everything?

Well, I'm sure this isn't the final product anyway so I suppose with all premature news... we will see.

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19. December 2009 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"The cheapest plan will be $30 a month but will obviously offer the least services."

According to the pic the cheapest option is $4.99 a month, or $29.99 a year - you might want to edit your article. :)
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Originally posted by EvilDeeds:
"The cheapest plan will be $30 a month but will obviously offer the least services."

According to the pic the cheapest option is $4.99 a month, or $29.99 a year - you might want to edit your article. :)
Indeed! thanks
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Originally posted by EvilDeeds:
"The cheapest plan will be $30 a month but will obviously offer the least services."

According to the pic the cheapest option is $4.99 a month, or $29.99 a year - you might want to edit your article. :)
Indeed! thanks
No problem. *high fives*

On the article - I'd probably take option 1, it's pretty cheap for an extended warranty alone over here... unfortunately, I'm in the UK - so if it comes over here then expect the dollar sign to be a pound sign, and the units to remain the same (if not go up!), which puts it slightly above xbox live in terms of annual subscription I'd imagine.
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19. December 2009 @ 20:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The problem with this is that there are too many options. There needs to be Premium or Non-Premium. Now there will be a majorly fractured user base. Say your an option 2 guy and want to dress up like your option 1, 3, or 4 friends with the "special content". Sorry, that particular "member only content" is available to option 2 people only. Have a demo you want to share with you friends? They better not be option 1 or option 4 friends! Don't you think that's a sweet music video?! Oops, I didn't know you were an option 3 or option 4. All this will just cause confusion and frustration for the customer.
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19. December 2009 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wtf, I thought the point of this article was to show the 4 options Sony was considering for their Premium Service and that they are conducting a survey to see which option people like the most, not that Sony is offering ALL of these 4 options at once when the service comes...
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19. December 2009 @ 21:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I did have to pick though. I'd say option one. 3 year warranty isn't bad. That full 1 hour title trial is SWEET business btw.
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I wish they had a build your own package. Neither of the 2 premuim packages 100% appeal to me they both have their pro's and cons.
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19. December 2009 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Free Access to PSOne games ftw
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19. December 2009 @ 22:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by canuckerz:
I wish they had a build your own package. Neither of the 2 premuim packages 100% appeal to me they both have their pro's and cons.
That is exactly how I feel and have been voicing my opinion about it...I would suggest at the very least have 2 options that are a bit more tailored to give better coverage for what the core gamer needs and the other for more casual.

Though I have to also say/add that $70 for the higher premium is a bit steep BUT in all honesty if the it had the best of all options (3 year warranty, free PS1 & beta access, loyalty rewards, online music/video service, cloud <- most important & etc) and maybe some not listed (like "X" amount of movie rentals via PSN <not Netflix>, cloud for gamesaves plus some others) then it truly wouldn't be that bad as it would/could cut out/minimize the totals of other expenses like Netflix/Blockbuster & Gamefly.

Basically an all in one stop/shop solution and completely optional as it stands.

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20. December 2009 @ 01:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So let's compare this to the 360 model where you HAVE to pay to play online. Thoughts?
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20. December 2009 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and ppl that don't pay will find out all about quality of connection as paying customers are given priority over the paupers, much like what happens to pay as you go telephones in the UK.

I though sony stated that the PSN will always be free, there is a bit of back peddling goin on here, i guess people are not as stupid as sony hoped when they loaded all that virtual stuff into home?

The Future

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NEW YORK?Sony Corporation chairman and CEO Howard Stringer gave the public a first glimpse of Steve, the latest model in the company?s highly anticipated line of ideal electronics consumers, during the Sony Corporation of America?s annual stockholders meeting Monday.

The new Steve will buy Sony products.

The 72-inch, 195-pound consumer?a 34-year-old unmarried financial analyst?is smaller, lighter, and swifter than last year?s beta-model consumer, Larry.

?Larry was much less mobile, which worked well for electronics enjoyment but less so for purchasing,? said Hideo Ichimonji, head of the design team for the Ideal Consumer Project. ?Also, the Larry?s decision-processing became jammed when forced to choose from more than one potential Sony product. By implementing parallel-purchasing solutions and simplifying its personality traits, we?ve ensured that Steve will always be a loyal Sony customer without any annoying system shutdowns or buying freezes.?

Sony expects Steve to usher in a whole new generation of ideal consumers.

?With Steve, we?re introducing a range of cutting-edge consumer attributes that other electronics manufacturers can only dream of,? Stringer said during the half-hour demonstration, in which Steve smoothly and quickly selected high-end Sony home-theater components it researched on a Sony VAIO laptop while interfacing with Sony customers worldwide using a Sony Ericsson mobile phone.

?The integration of Steve?s simultaneous multi-credit-card-processing capabilities with its high earning capability allows our new U.S.-market flagship consumer to purchase our entire North American product line in a single clock cycle.?

Steve sports larger, pre-calloused thumbs and is fully backwards-compatible with Sony?s complete line of merchandise, extending back to the Trinitron television and cassette Walkman. Its debt threshold is also nearly two-thirds higher.

Several thousand Steves will be shipped to Asia and Europe for test-shopping next month. Steve will come in six different colors, with analysts expecting the white and yellow models to be much more successful than the black version.

Designers say Steve?s recharging capability is an improvement over Larry?s bulky and cumbersome charge port, which resembled a La-Z-Boy recliner.

?Steve can recharge on any reasonably comfortable surface, including a couch, desktop, floor, futon?anywhere that?s within range of a Sony product,? said Ichimonji, who also described the automatic sleep mode that activates when Steve has been out of contact with a Sony product for more than 30 minutes. ?The Steve also has the power to consume our products on-the-go for up to three days on one charge. It?s also got a friendlier interface and improved social skills, and loves talking about Sony products in any social setting.?

Added Ichimonji: ?Or you can just put Steve in front of an HDTV or send it on its way with a Sony PSP, and you?ll forget he even exists.?

Industry experts have praised the redesign, particularly the enormous numbers of visual, aural, and purchasing-suggestion inputs Steve can support. But the most talked-about feature seems to be its built-in anti-obsolescence feature, which enables it to continuously upgrade its preferences for Sony merchandise.

?Steve definitely looks to be an improvement,? said gaming enthusiast Jennie Weathers, 28, who planned to attend a demonstration at a Las Vegas electronics trade show this weekend. ?The Larry was clunky, slow, and always making noise. Steve has a lot more free time and the flexibility to adapt to Sony retail stores and shopping sites like SonyStyle. And it seems like he?ll require very little upkeep or attention, but he?ll still be there when I just want to chill out and watch DVDs on my Sony WEGA HDTV or need some quick cheat tips for Kingdom Hearts II.?

Analysts say that Steve?s only real competition comes from Apple Computer?s own ideal consumer, the iBuy. But because the much more expensive iBuy is designed only to purchase and enjoy the pricier, but limited Apple product line, and is not intershoperable with other systems, Steve?s appeal will likely prove much broader.

Steve is scheduled for release in August, and Sony plans to have hundreds of thousands of models perusing store shelves by Christmas.
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and ppl that don't pay will find out all about quality of connection as paying customers are given priority over the paupers, much like what happens to pay as you go telephones in the UK.

I though sony stated that the PSN will always be free, there is a bit of back peddling goin on here, i guess people are not as stupid as sony hoped when they loaded all that virtual stuff into home?

The Future

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NEW YORK?Sony Corporation chairman and CEO Howard Stringer gave the public a first glimpse of Steve, the latest model in the company?s highly anticipated line of ideal electronics consumers, during the Sony Corporation of America?s annual stockholders meeting Monday.

The new Steve will buy Sony products.

The 72-inch, 195-pound consumer?a 34-year-old unmarried financial analyst?is smaller, lighter, and swifter than last year?s beta-model consumer, Larry.

?Larry was much less mobile, which worked well for electronics enjoyment but less so for purchasing,? said Hideo Ichimonji, head of the design team for the Ideal Consumer Project. ?Also, the Larry?s decision-processing became jammed when forced to choose from more than one potential Sony product. By implementing parallel-purchasing solutions and simplifying its personality traits, we?ve ensured that Steve will always be a loyal Sony customer without any annoying system shutdowns or buying freezes.?

Sony expects Steve to usher in a whole new generation of ideal consumers.

?With Steve, we?re introducing a range of cutting-edge consumer attributes that other electronics manufacturers can only dream of,? Stringer said during the half-hour demonstration, in which Steve smoothly and quickly selected high-end Sony home-theater components it researched on a Sony VAIO laptop while interfacing with Sony customers worldwide using a Sony Ericsson mobile phone.

?The integration of Steve?s simultaneous multi-credit-card-processing capabilities with its high earning capability allows our new U.S.-market flagship consumer to purchase our entire North American product line in a single clock cycle.?

Steve sports larger, pre-calloused thumbs and is fully backwards-compatible with Sony?s complete line of merchandise, extending back to the Trinitron television and cassette Walkman. Its debt threshold is also nearly two-thirds higher.

Several thousand Steves will be shipped to Asia and Europe for test-shopping next month. Steve will come in six different colors, with analysts expecting the white and yellow models to be much more successful than the black version.

Designers say Steve?s recharging capability is an improvement over Larry?s bulky and cumbersome charge port, which resembled a La-Z-Boy recliner.

?Steve can recharge on any reasonably comfortable surface, including a couch, desktop, floor, futon?anywhere that?s within range of a Sony product,? said Ichimonji, who also described the automatic sleep mode that activates when Steve has been out of contact with a Sony product for more than 30 minutes. ?The Steve also has the power to consume our products on-the-go for up to three days on one charge. It?s also got a friendlier interface and improved social skills, and loves talking about Sony products in any social setting.?

Added Ichimonji: ?Or you can just put Steve in front of an HDTV or send it on its way with a Sony PSP, and you?ll forget he even exists.?

Industry experts have praised the redesign, particularly the enormous numbers of visual, aural, and purchasing-suggestion inputs Steve can support. But the most talked-about feature seems to be its built-in anti-obsolescence feature, which enables it to continuously upgrade its preferences for Sony merchandise.

?Steve definitely looks to be an improvement,? said gaming enthusiast Jennie Weathers, 28, who planned to attend a demonstration at a Las Vegas electronics trade show this weekend. ?The Larry was clunky, slow, and always making noise. Steve has a lot more free time and the flexibility to adapt to Sony retail stores and shopping sites like SonyStyle. And it seems like he?ll require very little upkeep or attention, but he?ll still be there when I just want to chill out and watch DVDs on my Sony WEGA HDTV or need some quick cheat tips for Kingdom Hearts II.?

Analysts say that Steve?s only real competition comes from Apple Computer?s own ideal consumer, the iBuy. But because the much more expensive iBuy is designed only to purchase and enjoy the pricier, but limited Apple product line, and is not intershoperable with other systems, Steve?s appeal will likely prove much broader.

Steve is scheduled for release in August, and Sony plans to have hundreds of thousands of models perusing store shelves by Christmas.

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20. December 2009 @ 10:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by av_verbal:
I though sony stated that the PSN will always be free, there is a bit of back peddling goin on here, i guess people are not as stupid as sony hoped when they loaded all that virtual stuff into home?
What part of the PSN is still free don't you understand? As DVDBack, myself and other have clearly explained ~

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Also what does that wall of text have to do with this news? It is not on topic and does nothing to add to the discussion at hand.

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Originally posted by canuckerz:
I wish they had a build your own package. Neither of the 2 premuim packages 100% appeal to me they both have their pro's and cons.
That is exactly how I feel and have been voicing my opinion about it...I would suggest at the very least have 2 options that are a bit more tailored to give better coverage for what the core gamer needs and the other for more casual.

Though I have to also say/add that $70 for the higher premium is a bit steep BUT in all honesty if the it had the best of all options (3 year warranty, free PS1 & beta access, loyalty rewards, online music/video service, cloud <- most important & etc) and maybe some not listed (like "X" amount of movie rentals via PSN <not Netflix>, cloud for gamesaves plus some others) then it truly wouldn't be that bad as it would/could cut out/minimize the totals of other expenses like Netflix/Blockbuster & Gamefly.

Basically an all in one stop/shop solution and completely optional as it stands.
I agree thuroughly. As is the price is pretty steep, but if you could build your own package with it I'd likely pay it. As is with the current selection I'm still on the fence.

Also heres a question, does it just extend the warranty to 3 years past when the ps3 was bought or 3 years from the subscription?
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Option 1 really stands out to me but I'm a bit curious as to how the "online music service" is going to work. Would you be able to download mp3's as long as you're a subscriber? Beta access is looking pretty good to me as well. I'm intrigued about what "catch up TV" is.
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Originally posted by xblade132:
Option 1 really stands out to me but I'm a bit curious as to how the "online music service" is going to work. Would you be able to download mp3's as long as you're a subscriber? Beta access is looking pretty good to me as well. I'm intrigued about what "catch up TV" is.
Rumor is "catch-up tv" is native Hulu playback.
 
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